[NiliSpuppypax]

So it all comes to hoories....

Allah loves everyone equally.

Men go through more..

You have to go to the masjid 5 times a day? You have to go to the masjid in Fajr when it's freezing cold outside?

Women have to go fight for Allah?

Do they get caught up and put in jails? Do the women loose their eyes, arms, legs fighting?

Do these women travel such long distances like Sahaba used to go and fight?

So it'sjust about who does more.

If you really want hoories, you can request Allah to make you a man in Jannat.

Oh God this is getting really long. I have mentioned in my post that I don't want multiple husbands and that I will obey God whatever the case might be. But don't tell that women does less for God. They have to sacrifice a lot of stuff too you know. I have read somewhere that there are some tasks for women which is equivalent to jihad. And whether we we are in the mosque or not, we are praying to God. If men did more, then God would have mentioned it somewhere in His holy book.

[CathBraunn]

Assalamu alaikum,

Allah is the most just of all. Allah will reward every person to full and Allah will never be unjust.

So every one will be rewarded to full and enjoy forever the bounty from Allah in Jannah

[D6b2v1HA]

But before I end this discussion I want say that God loves men more, because they get extra rewards.

Its a slander against Allah, you should repent for this sister.

You cant compair the love with the number. and what does extra rewards mean? only houris or something more? As you said you dont care about houris so you may wanna bring other thigns which are EXTRA for men and not for Woman.

For example, do Allah love me more than Fatima(rd)?

Obviously NOT. Its all about Taqwa and not the Gender,this is an accustation of atheist that Allah being Racist(nawdhubillah). Will you claim Allah loves me more because i am a Men but not same to Fatima(rd) because she is a woman? Do you beleive just because i am hanging out with houris that makes me more beloved by Allah and not Fatima(rd)?

Sister, your whole post sounds and smells like you saying God being unjustice because He gives more to XYZ. and you are doing a great favour to Allah by accepting it! Sister watch out what satan whispers in your heart, may Allah save us all.

[TimoDass]

How do we know what Allah will give women if He did not mention it? Hadeeth is clear, in Jannah we will get whatever we want. Case closed.

[ArraryTauTDew]

The knowledge we have of the bounties of Jannah is very minute and little.


حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ ، عَنْ أَبِي الزِّنَادِ ، عَنْ الْأَعْرَجِ ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ ، عَنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ : قَالَ اللَّهُ تَبَارَكَ وَتَعَالَى : " أَعْدَدْتُ لِعِبَادِي الصَّالِحِينَ مَا لَا عَيْنٌ رَأَتْ ، وَلَا أُذُنٌ سَمِعَتْ ، وَلَا خَطَرَ عَلَى قَلْبِ بَشَرٍ " ، قَالَ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ : اقْرَءُوا إِنْ شِئْتُمْ : فَلا تَعْلَمُ نَفْسٌ مَا أُخْفِيَ لَهُمْ مِنْ قُرَّةِ أَعْيُنٍ سورة السجدة آية 17
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet, said, "Allah said, 'I have prepared for My pious worshipers such things as no eye has ever seen, no ear has ever heard of, and nobody has ever thought of. All that is reserved, besides which, all that you have seen, is nothing." Then he recited:-- 'No soul knows what is kept hidden (in reserve) for them of joy as a reward for what they used to do.' (32.17) [Bukhari]

So the knowledge we have of what is in Jannah is nothing compared to what actually awaits a believing male and female in Jannah.

May Allah cause us to die as muslims.May he grant us direct entry into Jannatul firdaws. aameen

[NiliSpuppypax]

I didn't mean to slander God. You are misunderstanding me. I am just saying what occured in my mind. Sister Sudoku, I have mentioned at the very beginning of the thread that our prophet (SAW) was asked about the equivalent reward of houris for women. He replied that we will only get our pious husband. Besides, if a woman had more than one huband in the world, she is not allowed to take all of them with her. Doesn't this mean that we will get only one? Brother Abu Layl, I am not worried about the houris, but there are many women out there who are, like two of my friends. I am just speaking out for them here.

[NiliSpuppypax]

The knowledge we have of the bounties of Jannah is very minute and little.


حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ ، عَنْ أَبِي الزِّنَادِ ، عَنْ الْأَعْرَجِ ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ ، عَنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ قَالَ : قَالَ اللَّهُ تَبَارَكَ وَتَعَالَى : " أَعْدَدْتُ لِعِبَادِي الصَّالِحِينَ مَا لَا عَيْنٌ رَأَتْ ، وَلَا أُذُنٌ سَمِعَتْ ، وَلَا خَطَرَ عَلَى قَلْبِ بَشَرٍ " ، قَالَ أَبُو هُرَيْرَةَ : اقْرَءُوا إِنْ شِئْتُمْ : فَلا تَعْلَمُ نَفْسٌ مَا أُخْفِيَ لَهُمْ مِنْ قُرَّةِ أَعْيُنٍ سورة السجدة آية 17

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet, said, "Allah said, 'I have prepared for My pious worshipers such things as no eye has ever seen, no ear has ever heard of, and nobody has ever thought of. All that is reserved, besides which, all that you have seen, is nothing." Then he recited:-- 'No soul knows what is kept hidden (in reserve) for them of joy as a reward for what they used to do.' (32.17) [Bukhari]

So the knowledge we have of what is in Jannah is nothing compared to what actually awaits a believing male and female in Jannah.

May Allah cause us to die as muslims.May he grant us direct entry into Jannatul firdaws. aameen Yes, that is what I got as replies from all my siblings here. And I accepted it. Thank you all.

[baronaaba]

I am no longer worried about the houris. But before I end this discussion I want say that God loves men more, because they get extra rewards. Everyone agrees that men and women can worship God equally, even though women are exempted from worshipping Him in some cases, God doesn't take that into consideration. Finally brother Taliban, you are a man who is receiving extra rewards, so it won't be your headache .

@taliban, ur dominating atitude clearly shows ur pride for being a man. Where there z pride, therez no janna!

[D6b2v1HA]

Brother Abu Layl, I am not worried about the houris, but there are many women out there who are, like two of my friends. I am just speaking out for them here.

for clearifying it sister.

Know that houris are a specific matter, but none can say that Allah is giving extra things to men which is sign of Allah love men more. Allah didnt publish a chart or a list what man or woman will get. the hadith has mentioned only a single matter from 1000 matter of jannah, so none should judge via only this that Men will get more than woman in Jannah and its a sign of Allah loves men more than woman.


know that Allah will satisfy us all and Allah loves who got more Taqwa.

Sometimes numbers are mentioned to motivate the men, it shoudnt be the reason for woman to compair their jannah with the Jannah of man.

[zawhmqswly]

....here is some interesting stuff on the topic..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-Jgi4MGu3I

[worldofwarcraft]

@taliban, ur dominating atitude clearly shows ur pride for being a man. Where there z pride, therez no janna!

And where's theres jealousy, there won't be any jannat....

May Allah remove any evil pride from my heart ameen.

Please make dua for me.

[Arrectiff]

Allah promises reward in jannah of beautiful mansions and beautiful clothing. Generally women of this world are more interested in this stuff rather than more than one husband. The point is that we will get everything we want in Jannah and we will be satisfied. In this world when a person has so many worldly things many times he/she is still not satisfied. Being satisfied with what you have is such a huge blessing of its own. We will realize this in Jannah. May Allah (SWT) unite us all there. Ameen.

I would definitely suggest we shouldn't compare ourselves to the opposite gender. Only Allah knows who sacrifices more on an individual level. Allah (SWT) will judge us based on our piety and devotion rather than gender.

[masaredera]

Assalam alaykum,

I have read that these pure beings in jannah that the Quran mentions can be both men and women.

When it comes to descriptions of the pleasures of paradise, the Quran uses earthly pleasures as analogies, but there are higher pleasures we know not of in jannah.

The highest pleasure will be the approval of our Lord.

Wassalam

[JeremyBalll]

I want to see Allah, the Source of all beauty.
That is Jannah for me.

[NiliSpuppypax]

Allah promises reward in jannah of beautiful mansions and beautiful clothing. Generally women of this world are more interested in this stuff rather than more than one husband. The point is that we will get everything we want in Jannah and we will be satisfied. In this world when a person has so many worldly things many times he/she is still not satisfied. Being satisfied with what you have is such a huge blessing of its own. We will realize this in Jannah. May Allah (SWT) unite us all there. Ameen.

I would definitely suggest we shouldn't compare ourselves to the opposite gender. Only Allah knows who sacrifices more on an individual level. Allah (SWT) will judge us based on our piety and devotion rather than gender.

It's my personal opinion that both men and women does equally for God. And I don't have much that interest in clothes and stuff. Anyways, can you tell me why women has to stick with the last husband, if she marries more than one in this life? Why she is not given a choice? Sister, this just a question and not a slander to God.

[worldofwarcraft]

The nature of men and woman are different so the rewards will be different.

You can't compare.

For example, theres a writing competition and a man and woman both win. You give both of them this, thinking that both should be equal ...



The woman will be happy, but the man?

[A picture is worth a thousand words - With special thanks to Colonel (DB) for teaching us this annoying usage of pictures]

[worldofwarcraft]

It's my personal opinion that both men and women does equally for God. And I don't have much that interest in clothes and stuff. Anyways, can you tell me why women has to stick with the last husband, if she marries more than one in this life? Why she is not given a choice? Sister, this just a question and not a slander to God.

If the last husband was the best then she would choose him anyways, otherwise i think she will be given a choice.

[TimoDass]

The woman will be happy, but the man?

Someone gave me this as a writing competition reward, I wouldn't write for another competition again.

I guess this proves another point. Each person's likes and dislikes are different, even if they are from the same gender.

[toopyimport]

Is complaining about the thread count of sheets in in your house in Jannat any more reasonable than this thread?

[bribiaLaubysdggf]

It's my personal opinion that both men and women does equally for God. And I don't have much that interest in clothes and stuff. Anyways, can you tell me why women has to stick with the last husband, if she marries more than one in this life? Why she is not given a choice? Sister, this just a question and not a slander to God.

If a woman had more than one husband(ie she married after her husband died) then she will be with the best of them.


Umm-e-Salma (Radhiallaahu Anhu), asked,
`A woman of this world married two, three or four husband in this world, then dies and enters Jannah with them, who will be her husband?'
Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) answered, `O Umm-e-Salma (Radhiallaahu Anhu), she will be allowed to choose between them, so she will choose the one with the best character. She will say to Allah, O Allah, this husband displayed the best character to me in the world, so marry him to me.'
Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) further added, `O Umm-e-Salma, good character has gained (for him) the excellence of this world and the hereafter.'

[narrated by Tabrani vol.23 pg.367; ibn Kathir in his Tafseer under verse22 Surah56]
Allah knows best.