[Fosavoa]

http://drabutamim.blogspot.com/2011/...odsuckers.html

[ATTILAGLIC]

Bhai, kuch kamai bhi hoti hai blog se ya wesay hi hume thora chust bananay k liye?

[Fosavoa]

Bhai, kuch kamai bhi hoti hai blog se ya wesay hi hume thora chust bananay k liye?

Kamai to kuch nahin hai blog se, hadrat.
Honi chahiye?

[Pcodaygs]

I must be on the wrong forum?.
I don't understand this thread

[ATTILAGLIC]

Kamai to kuch nahin hai blog se, hadrat.
Honi chahiye?

Yeah there should be. Put some ads there.

[kaysions]

Kamai to kuch nahin hai blog se, hadrat.
Honi chahiye?

Assalaamoalaykum-w-w
"In some places, the share of the patient’s misery is 60%. The doctors who are doing this are not criminals, not outlandish louts..many of them are practicing Muslims with Sunna beards. They stand in the Fajr salah in the front row. They go for 3 days Jamaat every month."
Now i find this kind of blogging a bit uncomfortable. Unless you say you are 100% sure about these docs getting kickbacks (and still jamaati), I will stop reading your blogs.!!

[bribiaLaubysdggf]

Are cuts really haram?
I mean if a doctor 'Genuinely' has to prescribe a medicine (eg: amoxycillin) and he has the choice of different companies of the same drug. If he choose amoxycillin of a specific company each time he has to 'Genuinely' prescribe it and receives a commission from the company. That will be ok right.

Prescribing medicines without specific reason, just to receive commission is not right. But if it in the above method then i think its ok.

[ATTILAGLIC]

Are cuts really haram?
I mean if a doctor 'Genuinely' has to prescribe a medicine (eg: amoxycillin) and he has the choice of different companies of the same drug. If he choose amoxycillin of a specific company each time he has to 'Genuinely' prescribe it and receives a commission from the company. That will be ok right.

Prescribing medicines without specific reason, just to receive commission is not right. But if it in the above method then i think its ok.

These doctors, i don't trust them a bit. I find them the most stupid people on earth. They don't even know what's in the medicines they are prescribing. These medicines do more harm than good. What can you expect from Multi National Yahoodi Companies?

This is not a conspiracy theory..

[bribiaLaubysdggf]

These doctors, i don't trust them a bit. I find them the most stupid people on earth. They don't even know what's in the medicines they are prescribing. These medicines do more harm than good. What can you expect from Multi National Yahoodi Companies?

This is not a conspiracy theory..

Yea lots of doctors are opportunists, its the truth not conspiracy theory. I m not denying that. But there are good doctors too, like Dr. Abu Tamim here.

About MNC pharmaceuticals, most of the drugs in India are produced by Indian based pharmaceuticals.

[Oppofeescom]

If I got it well, how can a fatwa justify these useless operations ?

Wassalam.

[Immusaatmonna]

Not enough Ihsan, I suppose...

I mean may be something looks OK externally but internally it's crooked and you know it? But you go by the external still?

[Fosavoa]

Assalaamoalaykum-w-w
"In some places, the share of the patient’s misery is 60%. The doctors who are doing this are not criminals, not outlandish louts..many of them are practicing Muslims with Sunna beards. They stand in the Fajr salah in the front row. They go for 3 days Jamaat every month."
Now i find this kind of blogging a bit uncomfortable. Unless you say you are 100% sure about these docs getting kickbacks (and still jamaati), I will stop reading your blogs.!!

Brother, I can see where you are coming from. What you want to know is whether these doctors really take cuts and still go in jamaats. Then the answer is 100% yes. If you want to know whether only those medicos who are associated with TJ take kickbacks, then the answer is an obvious no. Doctors of every Muslim and non Muslim group do. Its just that since I am a Jamaati, it hurts me more to see people do such things. Hence they are specifically mentioned instead of say JI people or AH people, all of whom are equally involved in the racket.
About reading my blog, its open to everyone. You can read it if you want. You can stop reading it if you want.

[Fosavoa]

Again generalisation.. ur NOT the only man there to Crow about NOT taking cuts.. if ur saying 100% tableeghi doctors take it.. then it is a Bohtan .. remember that.. u have to answer Allah ..

Come to bangalore.. visit Dr Shakeel sahab , Radiologist and Tableeghi elder from bangalore.. he runs ' Scan line '.. one of the best diagnostic centers.. he has placed a board inside which says boldly ' WE GIVE QUALITY AND NO CUTS '... and he sticks to that..

The Shifa Superspeciality hospital at Bangalore, managed by the tableeghi doctors DO NOT take or give cuts..

and there are many Tableeghi doctors i know personally who DO NOT take or give cuts..

May Allah give baraka in ur practice..

duas..

wa assalam..

Again generalisation.. ur NOT the only man there to Crow about NOT taking cuts..

Before accusing me of generalization, it would have been better for you to have read bro qibla's post which I answered. Then you would not have falsely accused me of 'again generalizing'. And I am not crowing about not taking cuts. I am trying to start a conversation about cuts, not taking cuts and the effects that this phenomenon has on poor patients, Muslims and otherwise. It is quite an important topic which you have so effectively derailed.

if ur saying 100% tableeghi doctors take it.. then it is a Bohtan .. remember that.. u have to answer Allah ..

What Qibla wanted to know was whether I was 100% sure that those doctors I mentioned went in Jamaat and took kickbacks as well. So the figure reflected my certainty with reference to only those doctors. I was not saying that 100% Tablighi doctors take it. Hope that will make you sheath the Buhtan weapon for the time being.

Come to bangalore.. visit Dr Shakeel sahab , Radiologist and Tableeghi elder from bangalore.. he runs ' Scan line '.. one of the best diagnostic centers.. he has placed a board inside which says boldly ' WE GIVE QUALITY AND NO CUTS '... and he sticks to that..

This is known as crowing. Anyways, Dr Shakil is a Consultant. And Consultants in this racket are actually victims along with the patients. There are many Consultants in B'bay also who don't GIVE cuts. My real issue is with taking cuts.

The Shifa Superspeciality hospital at Bangalore, managed by the tableeghi doctors DO NOT take or give cuts..

and there are many Tableeghi doctors i know personally who DO NOT take or give cuts..

There are approximately 550 doctors (GPs) in Kurla, Muslim and non-Muslim. Only one of them does not take cuts. He is a Deobandi but not a Tablighi.

May Allah give baraka in ur practice..

Aameen.

[Fosavoa]

Yea lots of doctors are opportunists, its the truth not conspiracy theory. I m not denying that. But there are good doctors too, like Dr. Abu Tamim here.

About MNC pharmaceuticals, most of the drugs in India are produced by Indian based pharmaceuticals.

Who says that I am a good doctor?

[uranbigis]

Assalamu alaykum

To hell with all those who tell Consultants to compromise, to bend a little, to give in to the trend, to bow to the wind. I will sell bananas on the road but I will not sell my Eeman for a few pieces of bread. Doctor sahib, you will never sell banana. There is a big demand for honest doctors. Allah swt barakah will come with the money you earn honestly.

Let me quote an example.

During my childhood. An honest doctor opened a 10ft by 15ft clinic. Allah swt gave shifaa in his hands. I myself experienced that. Every day 365 days an year he used to see more than 200 patients per day (the clinic was getting closed at 3.00 AM night). The fee was very very nominal, some times for needy no fee and sample medicines were offered to them.

Things changed: Lot of money got accumulated, some one suggested him to open a mini hospital. To repay the loans, the CUT theory started. No barkah, no shifaa, no patients. He is cursing himself, he and every one was happy with the 10 X 15 ft clinic.

[bribiaLaubysdggf]

Assalamu alaykum



Doctor sahib, you will never sell banana. There is a big demand for honest doctors. Allah swt barakah will come with the money you earn honestly.

Let me quote an example.

During my childhood. An honest doctor opened a 10ft by 15ft clinic. Allah swt gave shifaa in his hands. I myself experienced that. Every day 365 days an year he used to see more than 200 patients per day (the clinic was getting closed at 3.00 AM night). The fee was very very nominal, some times for needy no fee and sample medicines were offered to them.

Things changed: Lot of money got accumulated, some one suggested him to open a mini hospital. To repay the loans, the CUT theory started. No barkah, no shifaa, no patients. He is cursing himself, he and every one was happy with the 10 X 15 ft clinic.

[SkatrySkith]

Its just that since I am a Jamaati, it hurts me more to see people do such things. Hence they are specifically mentioned instead of say JI people or AH people, all of whom are equally involved in the racket.

dont expect people to understand....

[Seilehogshell]

Again generalisation.. ur NOT the only man there to Crow about NOT taking cuts..

Before accusing me of generalization, it would have been better for you to have read bro qibla's post which I answered. Then you would not have falsely accused me of 'again generalizing'. And I am not crowing about not taking cuts. I am trying to start a conversation about cuts, not taking cuts and the effects that this phenomenon has on poor patients, Muslims and otherwise. It is quite an important topic which you have so effectively derailed.

if ur saying 100% tableeghi doctors take it.. then it is a Bohtan .. remember that.. u have to answer Allah ..

What Qibla wanted to know was whether I was 100% sure that those doctors I mentioned went in Jamaat and took kickbacks as well. So the figure reflected my certainty with reference to only those doctors. I was not saying that 100% Tablighi doctors take it. Hope that will make you sheath the Buhtan weapon for the time being.

Come to bangalore.. visit Dr Shakeel sahab , Radiologist and Tableeghi elder from bangalore.. he runs ' Scan line '.. one of the best diagnostic centers.. he has placed a board inside which says boldly ' WE GIVE QUALITY AND NO CUTS '... and he sticks to that..

This is known as crowing. Anyways, Dr Shakil is a Consultant. And Consultants in this racket are actually victims along with the patients. There are many Consultants in B'bay also who don't GIVE cuts. My real issue is with taking cuts.

The Shifa Superspeciality hospital at Bangalore, managed by the tableeghi doctors DO NOT take or give cuts..

and there are many Tableeghi doctors i know personally who DO NOT take or give cuts..

There are approximately 550 doctors (GPs) in Kurla, Muslim and non-Muslim. Only one of them does not take cuts. He is a Deobandi but not a Tablighi.

May Allah give baraka in ur practice..

Aameen.

yeah .. i did miss reading tht part.. apologies brother.. thanx to ur ' friends ' on the 'choosing medical feild thread ' they put me off with their comments on docs.. im deleting tht post.. but seriosly ive seen the bangalore tableeghi docs to abstain from such ( im not from bangalore though) ..

and if u wanna see it big scale in a small city.. then welcome to Mangalore.. the real racket land.. ( again there could be exceptions there) i have met Dr. Jalaluddin (orthopaedic surgeon) a tableeghi elder working at the unity hospital.. masha Allah.. a beutiful person with great akhlaq.. has done a lot of work amongst medicos .. siince there r three medical colleges there..

so u have both sides.. some take .. some who dont.. depends on individual taqwa after all..

duas..

wa assalam..

[Styparty]

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so u have both sides.. some take .. some who dont.. depends on individual taqwa after all..
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Doc the same thing was said in the jinn thread. There are good and bad in aamils, hakeems and doctors.

I only wonder what percentage of doctors are involved in this type of practice world wide

[Automobill]

http://drabutamim.blogspot.com/2011/...odsuckers.html

How about Ulama/Mashykh who take cuts from travel agents by sending people for Hajj/Umrah to their companies?

How about Ulama/Mashykh who take teach children in the Maktab and then also tell Parents that their children need "private tuition"?

How about Ulama/Mashykh who setup institues and create fancy books, MP3 and Islamic material, charge extortionist prices and live a lavish lifestyle?

How about Ulama/Mashykh who certify Halal meat and other products, charge a commission in the process and live a lavish lifestyle?

Are you willing to be as forthright and honest?