[Precturge]

What if you block all websites, except a few pure beneficial ones?
How about all the ebooks, PDF's, as-Shamila, Qur'an recitations?
Handouts for students?

[wp6Eg2Fm]

What if you block all websites, except a few pure beneficial ones?
How about all the ebooks, PDF's, as-Shamila, Qur'an recitations?
Handouts for students?

It would be good if you block them.

Well, collecting books doesn't help anyone does it Reading does. One hardcover book which you read from cover to cover is better than as-Shamila which you never read.

For Quranic Recitations, buy a mp3 player. It would be cheaper

Anyways, just as i said: EXCEPTIONS are everywhere.

My whole point is: Most of the time, computers [with internet] are FITNAH. We should try to RUN away from FITNAH not bring the fire to our homes.

[Immonnaornach]

Assalum alaykum,

The computer can be put to good use or bad use, depending on the spiritual state of the user.

Wassalam

[SkatrySkith]

i agree that computers are a big fitnah. so are mobile phones. they have their uses but only when used in the right way and the user stays away from the fitnah it creates. but for most it is too difficult to abstain from commitng haram with these devices. those who think there is nothing wrong with computers and mobile phones are living a very sheltered life and do not know what the children are getting upto in their bedrooms and the streets.

[TimoDass]

That's why

a) computers should be in the house where EVERYONE can see them.
b) kids shouldn't have mobiles.

[bribiaLaubysdggf]

i agree that computers are a big fitnah. so are mobile phones. .

Very true about mobile phones. Its what leads many of the youth astray. Even good conservative Muslim girls have been affected by it. At first they just get forward msgs from Guys. Then she starts sending forward msgs too. Then innocent msgs like 'how are you' 'did you finish the assignment' etc starts. Then a bond is established and slowly such stuff lowers the guard and reaches near Zina or even Zina. (audhubillah).

Reminds me of the Monk that is mentioned in the Quran who was influenced by Iblees to do a Halaal favour, which lead to Zina then Murder and finally Shirk.
May Allah save us from committing such acts. Ameen.

[D6b2v1HA]

No PC at home

where is the laptop hadrat

There are exceptions ofcourse, but most the time the computer is at home just for the sake of it. The wife wants a computer because she's bored. The children want a computer because everyone at school has a computer.

1) Computer was brought home. The husband was out most of the time. The wife started using computers.... Fell into the wrong things. Ended up in Talaq.

2) Wife started using facebook (very difficult to avoid it), fell in love with this guy. Asked the husband for talaq, husband gave talaq, the lover ran away didn't accept her. Now she's on the streets.

3) Husband started watching silly things on the net. Now he doesn't love his wife anymore. Ends up in talaq.

Get a TV only, its one way communication, you cant communicate with any Actor or actrees via TV,

[MpNelQTU]

lol

its not because of fb its because of weak eman. But may b u r right if ur pc has been hacked or have a script like that it automatically opens up fb.

kidding dear

[majestictwelve]

Well, I don't have a computer at home. And sorry i can't throw away the PC at work

It would be funny if you did.

[downtowndude]

The Internet in itself is not a fitnah...but it could be a source of fitnah...like many other things we use in daily life.

The person using it could use it positively or negatively...So, at the end of the day, it boils down to the level of taqwa & the fear of Allah the person using it has.

For example , we all have a tongue. Some people use it for backbiting, slandering , lying & abusing others while some people use it for Dhikr, reciiting Qur'an , inviting people towards good.

Just because some people abuse the medium, we shouldn't automatically assume that everyone will also do the same.

Same for internet usage . Not every person wastes hours daily in front of the PC or indulges in haram activities.

That said, parents can make certain conditions when they have the net at home , like kids should have limited exposure online under adult supervision. Asking everyone not to have the net at home is silly.

[wp6Eg2Fm]

How would a 10 year old have Taqwa which will tell him not to watch filth?

[Frdsdx26]

Taliban for bringing this up. And i think alot of answers to your posts are quite revealing in that people have a completely neutral view of technology (it can be used for this, for that etc) and ignore the fact that the technology ITSELF makes you develop certain habits. For example:

It has been proven by numerous studies that people, no matter what kind of people, use internet in a way that has negative effects on your ability to learn new things (internet encourages an "information overload" on our brains working memory, hence it cant process it properly in the same way as reading a book from cover to cover), your ability to commit things to long term memory gets effected as the brain (which is highly adaptable) gets used to a fast pace, extremely shallow way of dealing with information. Studies has also shown that average people spend very very short amount of time at each page, and this is also the case with pages holding for example scanned books and studies from the university. I guess the result would be exactly the same with islamic websites. If you just spend 10-20 seconds (at most) "reading" a ebook or a bloggpost with benificial material you ARE NOT READING it, you are SKIMMING it. And the results are thereafter. People who tend to get most of their knowledge from the internet are not knowledgable at all, but just knows alittle bit here and alittle bit there. And as the internet encourages this cloudy way of thinking they usually get everything mixed up as they in most cases dont really know anything deeply.

I could go into more detail after the weekend if people are interrested. This is not to say that i dont care about the moral aspects of internet use, ofcourse i do. They are more important, but the things i wrote about people dont really consider. And as far as the positive things about the internet are concerned, they ofcourse exist. But i think, when everything is balanced out, that internet should be used very selective and not in a free way. Specific times should be set aside for specific purposes. Like today im downloading bayan to my mp3, today im paying my bills etc. And this should be done on a weekly basis and not a daily one. Imagine how much time is spent just wasted away on the internet. Even if you just browse islamic websites for an hour, the results are more often than not just more confusion, more fuel added to the extreme information overload we find ourselves in, a picture or sound you shouldnt have watched or heard etc etc. One hour of serious reading in a book a day gets you somewhere, quite fast actually.

[wp6Eg2Fm]

Makes alot of sense.

Please continue after the weekend.

Information Overload....

[JimmyHas]

it really depends......computers can be used in good deeds...you can learn anything from it, more of i have one question...

if you dont have computer at home, how can you read this knowledge full posts ?

isnt it just because of computers and technology?

use it in a right way and please dont say anything that makes people against it without getting knowledge about it..
thanks bro

[Precturge]

if you dont have computer at home, how can you read this knowledge full posts ?

We can request SF board to publish weekly magazine... that would be wonderful to see all the debates on and on and on... I feel of us will sacrifice with writing valuable info while rest of will be reading them on cool printed paper.

@yhy,

Please share the info in detail please. I am also more than interested to know this overload information and its effects on brain.

[FredderiK]

Taliban for bringing this up. And i think alot of answers to your posts are quite revealing in that people have a completely neutral view of technology (it can be used for this, for that etc) and ignore the fact that the technology ITSELF makes you develop certain habits. For example:

It has been proven by numerous studies that people, no matter what kind of people, use internet in a way that has negative effects on your ability to learn new things (internet encourages an "information overload" on our brains working memory, hence it cant process it properly in the same way as reading a book from cover to cover), your ability to commit things to long term memory gets effected as the brain (which is highly adaptable) gets used to a fast pace, extremely shallow way of dealing with information. Studies has also shown that average people spend very very short amount of time at each page, and this is also the case with pages holding for example scanned books and studies from the university. I guess the result would be exactly the same with islamic websites. If you just spend 10-20 seconds (at most) "reading" a ebook or a bloggpost with benificial material you ARE NOT READING it, you are SKIMMING it. And the results are thereafter. People who tend to get most of their knowledge from the internet are not knowledgable at all, but just knows alittle bit here and alittle bit there. And as the internet encourages this cloudy way of thinking they usually get everything mixed up as they in most cases dont really know anything deeply.

I could go into more detail after the weekend if people are interrested. This is not to say that i dont care about the moral aspects of internet use, ofcourse i do. They are more important, but the things i wrote about people dont really consider. And as far as the positive things about the internet are concerned, they ofcourse exist. But i think, when everything is balanced out, that internet should be used very selective and not in a free way. Specific times should be set aside for specific purposes. Like today im downloading bayan to my mp3, today im paying my bills etc. And this should be done on a weekly basis and not a daily one. Imagine how much time is spent just wasted away on the internet. Even if you just browse islamic websites for an hour, the results are more often than not just more confusion, more fuel added to the extreme information overload we find ourselves in, a picture or sound you shouldnt have watched or heard etc etc. One hour of serious reading in a book a day gets you somewhere, quite fast actually.

Continue it please. I'd like to read about it more.

Jazakallahu khayr

[autolubitelone]

how ironic hypocritical that so many people are posting on this thread yet they most definitely have at least one computer in their homes

[SkatrySkith]

to the people who keep banging on about those who criticise computers/internet/mobiles but still use them themselves.....

must a person not have a computer/internet/mobile in order to recognise it's dangers and the fitnah that can be caused by it?

those who have a problem with others criticising the above things.............do you not recognise the dangers or do you not accept that they are a cause of fitnah?

[wp6Eg2Fm]

how ironic hypocritical that so many people are posting on this thread yet they most definitely have at least one computer in their homes

It's not nice to call people hypocrites directly or indirectly based on assumptions. It can be considered bad gumani which is not allowed.

Please rephrase your statement so that it doesn't hurt people.

Since you are a talibaa, it would be nice you don't make sweeping statements like this. People look up to you. People will take you as an example. Better to be very moderate in your way of talking.

[wp6Eg2Fm]

Yes you are right. Too bad can't blame it on jinns this time. Can only blame myself for this.