[ycMC0PLg]

Salams

I have heard Prophet Adam PBUH was 90 ft tall, but I also have heard he was 90 ft tall in heaven but he was normal size on earth. I have a hard time swallowing this.

[Caluabdum]

If you think Allah can make Isa born without a father, why can't He subhanahu wa ta'ala can't make Adam 90 ft tall.

[SkatrySkith]

Salams

I have heard Prophet Adam PBUH was 90 ft tall, but I also have heard he was 90 ft tall in heaven but he was normal size on earth. I have a hard time swallowing this.

would 40 foot animals be more palatable to your tastes?

[Fegasderty]

As-salaamu `alaykum,

I also had trouble 'swallowing this' the first time I came across it, and was also confused when I heard that Nuh lived beyond 950 years. By Allah , I came to the conclusion that nothing is beyond His Capacity.

Some months later, by the Hikmah of Allah, I came across an scientific essay which alluded to the theory that human beings may have been exceptionally taller (which may explain the pyramids) and lived much longer than we.

Do some research, in sha Allah.

[Vokbeelllicky]

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall. When He created him, He said to him, "Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutations of your offspring." So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you). The angels said, "As-salamu Alaika wa Rahmatu-l-lahi" (i.e. Peace and Allah's Mercy be upon you). Thus the angels added to Adam's salutation the expression, 'Wa Rahmatu-l-lahi,' Any person who will enter Paradise will resemble Adam (in appearance and figure). People have been decreasing in stature since Adam's creation.

(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 543)"

60 cubits = 90 ft.

[ycMC0PLg]

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall. When He created him, He said to him, "Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutations of your offspring." So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you). The angels said, "As-salamu Alaika wa Rahmatu-l-lahi" (i.e. Peace and Allah's Mercy be upon you). Thus the angels added to Adam's salutation the expression, 'Wa Rahmatu-l-lahi,' Any person who will enter Paradise will resemble Adam (in appearance and figure). People have been decreasing in stature since Adam's creation.

(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 543)"

60 cubits = 90 ft.

I thought humans were getting larger in terms of size.

[fabrizioitwloch]

As-salaamu `alaykum,

I also had trouble 'swallowing this' the first time I came across it, and was also confused when I heard that Nuh lived beyond 950 years. By Allah , I came to the conclusion that nothing is beyond His Capacity.

Exactly.
He created whales (still around) and dinosaurs. We believe all that. After that if we are asked to believe the rest we chicken out.
Wassalam

[D6b2v1HA]

if we read the nations which were mentioned in QUran that they used to build home in Mountain and so on, its also clear how big and strong they must have been.

[Esmeralfaf]

Salams

I have heard Prophet Adam PBUH was 90 ft tall, but I also have heard he was 90 ft tall in heaven but he was normal size on earth. I have a hard time swallowing this.

i googled and found the following:

Read the following excerpt from the English section of the September
2001 issue of the Hebrew-English Israeli popular science journal "Ha-
Mada Ha-Yisraeli B'Angleet V'Ivreet." Then read the comments below.

TEL AVIV, ISRAEL - At the recent Israeli colloquium on science and
religion, Dr. Shlomi Lesser of Hebrew University, and the Chairman of
the Hofesh V'Mada Society (a stalwart for deeply skeptical Israeli
scientists), led a heated debate between biologists and ultra-
orthodox Rabbis on the origins of life. Many of the spectators,
including those of a deeply religious stance, came away with the
feeling that the Rabbis had not done very well against
their "Epicurean" counterparts.

The hi-light of the evening came when Dr. Lesser engaged in a one-on-
one question exchange with Rabbi Dovid Brown of Yeshiva University.
At one point Dr. Lesser asked R. Brown how tall the first man was,
to which the esteemed Rabbi replied "he was roughly the size of an
average man according to chazal [Jewish sages]." From there Dr.
Lesser revealed that genetic research has revealed that the human
race coming from a single pair of parents is impossible in light of
the biological bottle-neck [a term for the strain put on successive
generations by inbreeding] they would have to travel through.

"Our research, in conjunction with the research of other respected
institutions around the world, has demonstrated that the entire human
population descending from a single pair of human ancestors is highly
unlikely." stated Dr. Lesser. "It would seem that the traditional
view of groups, not individuals, evolving has been corroborated; the
only way man could descend from a single pair (rather than from an
entire group of transitional hominids) is if the original pair were
literally giants in the pre-nutrition age."

As Dr. Lesser pointed out, prior to the breakthroughs in nutrition
that took place in the 17th and 18th centuries, genetic evidence
revealed that man would have been shrinking if he came from a single
human ancestor. His calculations revealed that in order for the
human race to reach the state it was in during the 17th century,
the "Adam and Eve" story would only be plausible if the first man was
90 feet tall (which is fantastic to say the least). "There is no
other way man could traverse the genetic bottleneck" Dr. Lesser again
said. "If Adam was the size of any other man according to the
learned Rabbis of the Jewish religion, this demonstrates an obvious
absurdity to this myth."

[------ END EXCERPT ------]

This is interesting to me because while the biologists think they
crushed Judaism, they actually confirmed Islam! The scientists came
up with genetic research that led them to calculate the size a first
man would have to be if the story was true. They came up with 90
feet. Note that 1400 years before these learned men came to this
conclusion, the Prophet (peace be upon him) said something similar:

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 543:

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making
him 60 cubits tall. [snip]"

Two cubits is a yard, so one cubit is a foot and a half. So for some
reason, the Prophet (peace be upon him) thought that Adam was 90 feet
tall when he was created. It is a belief of Islam that man got
smaller as life went on. How did the Prophet (peace be upon him) and
his companions (May Allah Almighty be pleased with them) know about
the effect known as "bottleneck," where animals get weaker if they
have genetic exchanges that are too closely related?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/al-Zawiya/message/2987

[Esmeralfaf]

NOTE: I must be excused for wasting your time with this article, for it is not credible and there are errors contained in it.

i googled and found the following:

Read the following excerpt from the English section of the September
2001 issue of the Hebrew-English Israeli popular science journal "Ha-
Mada Ha-Yisraeli B'Angleet V'Ivreet." Then read the comments below.

TEL AVIV, ISRAEL - At the recent Israeli colloquium on science and
religion, Dr. Shlomi Lesser of Hebrew University, and the Chairman of
the Hofesh V'Mada Society (a stalwart for deeply skeptical Israeli
scientists), led a heated debate between biologists and ultra-
orthodox Rabbis on the origins of life. Many of the spectators,
including those of a deeply religious stance, came away with the
feeling that the Rabbis had not done very well against
their "Epicurean" counterparts.

The hi-light of the evening came when Dr. Lesser engaged in a one-on-
one question exchange with Rabbi Dovid Brown of Yeshiva University.
At one point Dr. Lesser asked R. Brown how tall the first man was,
to which the esteemed Rabbi replied "he was roughly the size of an
average man according to chazal [Jewish sages]." From there Dr.
Lesser revealed that genetic research has revealed that the human
race coming from a single pair of parents is impossible in light of
the biological bottle-neck [a term for the strain put on successive
generations by inbreeding] they would have to travel through.

"Our research, in conjunction with the research of other respected
institutions around the world, has demonstrated that the entire human
population descending from a single pair of human ancestors is highly
unlikely." stated Dr. Lesser. "It would seem that the traditional
view of groups, not individuals, evolving has been corroborated; the
only way man could descend from a single pair (rather than from an
entire group of transitional hominids) is if the original pair were
literally giants in the pre-nutrition age."

As Dr. Lesser pointed out, prior to the breakthroughs in nutrition
that took place in the 17th and 18th centuries, genetic evidence
revealed that man would have been shrinking if he came from a single
human ancestor. His calculations revealed that in order for the
human race to reach the state it was in during the 17th century,
the "Adam and Eve" story would only be plausible if the first man was
90 feet tall (which is fantastic to say the least). "There is no
other way man could traverse the genetic bottleneck" Dr. Lesser again
said. "If Adam was the size of any other man according to the
learned Rabbis of the Jewish religion, this demonstrates an obvious
absurdity to this myth."

[------ END EXCERPT ------]

This is interesting to me because while the biologists think they
crushed Judaism, they actually confirmed Islam! The scientists came
up with genetic research that led them to calculate the size a first
man would have to be if the story was true. They came up with 90
feet. Note that 1400 years before these learned men came to this
conclusion, the Prophet (peace be upon him) said something similar:

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 543:

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making
him 60 cubits tall. [snip]"

Two cubits is a yard, so one cubit is a foot and a half. So for some
reason, the Prophet (peace be upon him) thought that Adam was 90 feet
tall when he was created. It is a belief of Islam that man got
smaller as life went on. How did the Prophet (peace be upon him) and
his companions (May Allah Almighty be pleased with them) know about
the effect known as "bottleneck," where animals get weaker if they
have genetic exchanges that are too closely related?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/al-Zawiya/message/2987