[infollafago]

The Muslim Attitude and Jobs in India.
Al Salamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh.
Often Muslims talk of a lack of availability of jobs. This lack of availability of jobs in a majority of cases is due to lack of educational qualifications, lack of fluency in national languages and English, failure to impress the interviewing team in the interview, lack of experience etc etc. However, whenever our people are faced with a refusal they seem to be able to think of only one thing: Islam. "I was not given the job because I was a Muslim, because I had a beard, because I wore a cap during the interview......." Buddy, could it be because you failed your 10th standard and the fellow who got the job passed his 12th with first class? Could it be because you could not speak a single, coherent sentence in English when asked to do so by your interviewer whereas your competitors could write essays and articles in the language? Could it be because you are searching for a job 6 years after your graduation and have no experience in that interim period and no explanation that could satisfy a rational person? Could it be because you were called for your interview at 11.00 am Indian Standard Time but you turned up at 11.00 am Muslim Standard Time?
While prejudices, hatred and jealousy cannot be ruled out particularly in undeveloped, backward and uncultured nations like India, there is no denying the fact that Muslims are denied jobs for just reasons in the majority of cases. Indeed, if the entire team of interviewers was composed of Muslims, it would be difficult for them to take more than two out of ten Muslim candidates for any class III or class IV job and maybe 1 in 10,000 for a class I job, such is the state of our Ummah. If the Muslims were to educate themselves, open their eyes to reality, learn to compete in a healthy fashion with the non Muslims for the jaiz things of this world, then more than 90% of their imaginary complaints against their imaginary enemies would disappear.
Presently I am Chief of Internal Medicine and Diabetologist for a UK & Singapore based Multinational. I did not know of the company or its plans or its interviews until I got a call from a UK based doctor asking me to go for the interview. Anyways, I turned up at the Suburban 5 star Hotel after calling up and attended the session. My interview was taken by the Director of India Operations and the Singapore Head of the Company. After somedays I was called again to the interview venue. The Singaporean, Mr J Goh in the course of our conversation said, "You have something that we are looking for....and which we identify with our company.......I won't say religion...rather spirituality.....which is why we want you for the post......"
So obviously, my Muslim identity(which is rather obvious on my face) was not a barrier to my being appointed. Au contraire, it became a sort of attraction for people who must be used to meeting and dealing with thousands of people daily.
I think that it is time that we tighten our belt and start working hard instead of moaning and whining about what wasn't because we did not have the courage to do it.
Wa salamu 'alaykum.
http://drabutamim.blogspot.com/2011/...-in-india.html

[LomodiorCon]

Thought provoking article. Here in the UK whilst there is discrimination and barriers to work, alhumdulilah a hard working brother can manage to do well.

Attitude determines altitude.

[infollafago]

Abu Tamim,
You should delete the post. It is highly irresponsible to say such things in open forum. I am surprised. Do not give kuffar excuse to discriminate based on your experience. These sites are monitored.
It is mixture of good and bad. However I think we muslim need to work more harder and show our willingness to be accomodating. It does not help if one constantly seen to be demanding type.

Allahualam

bro nomadic.
After reading your post and pondering on it, I find that I cannot agree with you. So, the post will remain.

[infollafago]

Attitude determines altitude.

Exactly. Himmat-e-Mardaan, Madad-e-Khuda.

[D6b2v1HA]

totally agree with the thread. In Bangladesh, there are a lot of Hindus in high level Post. Why that? because they are really educated and well-versed in their branches where other "muslims" got no idea what is he doing in his working post. There are lot of Hindu Doctors and Engs. who are talented and i had couple of Hindu friends who were talented and could think more innovative way which wasnt present among my other 100 classmates. Their parents used to care of their kids learning process strictly where our mothers used to neglect it totally or half.

Its true in Muslim countries they may had not this pressure, but because they are in Non-Muslim land, they need to take extra preauction and care about it to stay on the ground and become stablished.Look at how a lot of Indians are well-stablished in USA or Canada by studying hard and working in high level post of various medical and institution

At the end, who got better contact with Allah, what can non-muslim do against him at all!

[Oppofeescom]

wa rahmatullah,

Well I would say that is the case with majority of Muslims leaving in suburb areas in most western countries. No doubt there is difficulty, discrimination, social inequalities but barely do Muslims there try to do well at school or to overcome these difficulties. They are all ready to talk all the day about how bad they are treated, how XYZ product is not halal, that Jews are united but not us, but at the end of the day they do little to change things; on the contrary they engage in easy solutions of crime gangs, drugs, prostitution and so forth.
Self-victimisation is not the way we can solve our difficulties, rather turning to Allah AND hard work.

[infollafago]

wa rahmatullah,

Well I would say that is the case with majority of Muslims leaving in suburb areas in most western countries.

And that is the case with Muslims in the West who are supposed to be the elite good enough to shift from their muddy Muslim countries to refined Europe. Consider then the state of common Muslims in countries like India and Pak.

[iH1wMOhE]

Surprisingly good post abu bhai!. Here in the UK masaajid don't talk about issues like these instead they ask for chanda for there own means. And besides where I am from most brothers want to be gangsters even if it means putting there neighbours on the drugs

[ronaldasten]

Good stuff bro, keep it up!

[JeremyBalll]

Assalamu Aleikum,

I totally agree with this.
Here in the Netherlands, there is a big problem with Muslims.
I've never really came across this discrimination, I came young here to this country from Afghanistan
with my parents. Alhamdulillah, I study structural engineering now at uni.

Of course there are people out there who are against Muslims.
But the blame is on us. Some brothers behave in a very bad way, while they are
representing Islam....And they are drinking, fighting, drug trafficking and so on.....

Just a few weeks ago, while I was cycling home late in the evening.
I came across a few drunken brothers who wanted to push me off my bike.
So I turned and started a conversation with them.

I asked them why they are doing this, since they represent Islam.
Why they are behaving in such a way, which is not the way of Islam..
What they would tell Allah, when Allah swt would ask them at the Day of Judgement
Why they were the cause of so many people hating this beautiful religion.
The brothers were dumbfolded, couldn't answer and apologised...

If they did it to a dutch, he/she would never be interested in Islam.
If we Muslims just acted in a appropriate and kind way, people would come to Islam
in masses, majority of Europeans would now be Muslims.
So keep well in mind when you approach non-Muslims that you have to behave
in a superb way.

Forget the 'We vs Them' mentality and act in a right way with good Adab.
They are also human beings who have a thirst for the Truth.

Waleikum Salam,

[OWV9LSxH]

I have no qualifications whatsoever.

Went to two interviews for the same job and gave outstanding interviews. I researched hard and delivered hard and got the job

I start tomorrow

It is working for a national company and the pay is really high up.

Did i get it based on my pretty beard, no! I got it since I exhausted the capacity that Allah gave me to exert myself to the maximum in ensuring that I deliver in the presentations better then anyone else that is interviewed.

At the end of the interview I was told that my presentation went into a lot of details that others had not considered. I responded to this telling the Marketing Director that I wanted them to see exactly what they are getting for their money and it is a way to show accountability since now they can hold me for what I am capable of and if I do not deliver on the promises made.

"Could it be because you were called for your interview at 11.00 am Indian Standard Time but you turned up at 11.00 am Muslim Standard Time?"

got to love that LOL

[infollafago]

I have no qualifications whatsoever.

Went to two interviews for the same job and gave outstanding interviews. I researched hard and delivered hard and got the job

I start tomorrow

It is working for a national company and the pay is really high up.

Did i get it based on my pretty beard, no! I got it since I exhausted the capacity that Allah gave me to exert myself to the maximum in ensuring that I deliver in the presentations better then anyone else that is interviewed.

At the end of the interview I was told that my presentation went into a lot of details that others had not considered. I responded to this telling the Marketing Director that I wanted them to see exactly what they are getting for their money and it is a way to show accountability since now they can hold me for what I am capable of and if I do not deliver on the promises made.

"Could it be because you were called for your interview at 11.00 am Indian Standard Time but you turned up at 11.00 am Muslim Standard Time?"

got to love that LOL

bro Gabriel.
Mabruk on getting the job. May Allah place great Barakah in your earnings and work.
By the way is your beard really "pretty"? Do you tweak it or something?

[EspanaCamsInfo]

I have no qualifications whatsoever.

Went to two interviews for the same job and gave outstanding interviews. I researched hard and delivered hard and got the job

I start tomorrow

It is working for a national company and the pay is really high up.

Did i get it based on my pretty beard, no! I got it since I exhausted the capacity that Allah gave me to exert myself to the maximum in ensuring that I deliver in the presentations better then anyone else that is interviewed.

At the end of the interview I was told that my presentation went into a lot of details that others had not considered. I responded to this telling the Marketing Director that I wanted them to see exactly what they are getting for their money and it is a way to show accountability since now they can hold me for what I am capable of and if I do not deliver on the promises made.

"Could it be because you were called for your interview at 11.00 am Indian Standard Time but you turned up at 11.00 am Muslim Standard Time?"

got to love that LOL

Congratulations

w salam

[fabrizioitwloch]

Mabruk brother Gabriel.

[infollafago]

Assalamu Aleikum,

I totally agree with this.
Here in the Netherlands, there is a big problem with Muslims.
I've never really came across this discrimination, I came young here to this country from Afghanistan
with my parents. Alhamdulillah, I study structural engineering now at uni.

Of course there are people out there who are against Muslims.
But the blame is on us. Some brothers behave in a very bad way, while they are
representing Islam....And they are drinking, fighting, drug trafficking and so on.....

Just a few weeks ago, while I was cycling home late in the evening.
I came across a few drunken brothers who wanted to push me off my bike.
So I turned and started a conversation with them.

I asked them why they are doing this, since they represent Islam.
Why they are behaving in such a way, which is not the way of Islam..
What they would tell Allah, when Allah swt would ask them at the Day of Judgement
Why they were the cause of so many people hating this beautiful religion.
The brothers were dumbfolded, couldn't answer and apologised...

If they did it to a dutch, he/she would never be interested in Islam.
If we Muslims just acted in a appropriate and kind way, people would come to Islam
in masses, majority of Europeans would now be Muslims.
So keep well in mind when you approach non-Muslims that you have to behave
in a superb way.

Forget the 'We vs Them' mentality and act in a right way with good Adab.
They are also human beings who have a thirst for the Truth.

Waleikum Salam,

My best friend is in Switzerland. He echoes your thoughts exactly.

[OWV9LSxH]

bro Gabriel.
Mabruk on getting the job. May Allah place great Barakah in your earnings and work.
By the way is your beard really "pretty"? Do you tweak it or something?

JazakAllah to all yoy guys.
On the bus now.

My beard flows straight without curls so some admire how straight it is. Lol

[infollafago]

"Could it be because you were called for your interview at 11.00 am Indian Standard Time but you turned up at 11.00 am Muslim Standard Time?"
got to love that LOL

The following is part of a post by a Muslim sister on another forum with reference to time:

"I have written a few posts on the underlying attitudes and mores that were subtly transmitted from a colonial era. His opinion is that of one who lacks understanding of the very culture he is ashamed. The perfect example of this is the showing up on time. Time is culturally relative. That is not a sign of someone who is backwards or rude. Some, like the English are punctual for some unknown reason.

Muslims I know from experience can not tell time. I could poll the members of TTI and I believe with an accuracy of 99.99% Muslims can not tell time: weddings, dinners, lectures...we run on Muslim time...even to prayers."