[jamisi]

Some Sunnforum members have shown strange reactions to some of my earlier posts. They should read this article below to wake up from the media-induced deep sleep !!

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The credo of the most successful conspirators is this: "Make what you do so far removed from normal thinking that normal thinkers would never even consider it possible."

The most powerful and successful conspirators refuse to acknowledge that anything is impossible, and this is why they have been successful. They ride on the human tendency to accept everyday explanations for even the most deranged events.


People believe what they want to believe. The way to use that tendency is to tell them something that you want them to believe that they also wish to believe.

Another and perhaps more important factor is that most people want to be accepted and thought of as OK and normal, one of the members of the herd, rather than an outsider, someone different. As the Japanese say, the nail that sticks up gets hammered down. What most people do in any group is copy the way the rest of the group is acting. The way to use that tendency is to convince people that "the rest of the group" is thinking, acting, and believing the way you want them to act, think, and believe.

[indahouweres]

We live in an evidence based society, Even our deen is full of evidence and signs. Whilst am not one to dismiss every sttory you come out with, some of them do appear a bit far fetched. Instead of blaming the Illuminati for the worlds problems, lets look at ourselves, and start with what we can do to better ourselves, and then surely our family will follow, then community, then local area and so on...

[NikkitaZ]

sometimes conspiracy theorists get on a high horse and assume only they know whats going on
the quran already tell us of some peoples schemes and plans and its solutions

most of us get on with what needs to be done
pawlak..with respect dont assume the rest of us are dumb

some of us will surprise you with insight far greater than you even imagine

the solution is adherence to quran and sunnah and return to allah in mind body and soul

knowledge of world events is no solution but can sometimes be a distraction..that too is a part of psyops

[DariushPetresku]

Ugh, conspiracy theories. While I'm not familiar with your posts specifically pawlak, I've always had an aversion to conspiracy theories. Conspiracies are excuses for those living in denial of their own problems (doesn't Islam teach us to not bother with that which does not concern us?) Muslims are especially prone to this (no, it was not a Mossad plot that you burnt your breakfast this morning. You just had the temperature on too high. They didn't break your dryer so you'd be late to juma'ah either).

And even for some that are or may be true, isn't the Qur'an quite clear that the plotters can plot, but Allah plots too? Isn't Allah the best of plotters?

Life is you, your actions, and Allah.

Sometimes it's cute when people find various similarities (such as similarities between assassins and would-be assassins of american presidents, or one that was something about 9/11 and how much 9 and 11 popped up in various sentences/words, or some such. I forget the details because it's not important to me). I liken these to human interest stories, like videos of a dog surfing or something. Mildly entertaining, but worthless.

Besides, there's enough muslims out there worrying about the CIA in every shadow that I can rest easy. Thanks guys!

I wus lookin’ high an’ low for them Reds everywhere
I wus lookin’ in the sink an’ underneath the chair
I looked way up my chimney hole
I even looked deep down inside my toilet bowl
They got away . .

Talkin' John Birch Paranoid Blues (words only)

[jamisi]

Ugh, conspiracy theories. While I'm not familiar with your posts specifically pawlak, I've always had an aversion to conspiracy theories. Conspiracies are excuses for those living in denial of their own problems

9/11 and the Orwellian Redefinition of "Conspiracy Theory"
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While we were not watching, conspiracy theory has undergone Orwellian redefinition.

A “conspiracy theory” no longer means an event explained by a conspiracy. Instead, it now means any explanation, or even a fact, that is out of step with the government’s explanation and that of its media pimps.

For example, online news broadcasts of RT have been equated with conspiracy theories by the New York Times simply because RT reports news and opinions that the New York Times does not report and the US government does not endorse.

In other words, as truth becomes uncomfortable for government and its Ministry of Propaganda, truth is redefined as conspiracy theory, by which is meant an absurd and laughable explanation that we should ignore.

When piles of carefully researched books, released government documents, and testimony of eye witnesses made it clear that Oswald was not President John F. Kennedy’s assassin, the voluminous research, government documents, and verified testimony was dismissed as “conspiracy theory.”

In other words, the truth of the event was unacceptable to the authorities and to the Ministry of Propaganda that represents the interests of authorities.

The purest example of how Americans are shielded from truth is the media’s (including many Internet sites’) response to the large number of professionals who find the official explanation of September 11, 2001, inconsistent with everything they, as experts, know about physics, chemistry, structural engineering, architecture, fires, structural damage, the piloting of airplanes, the security procedures of the United States, NORAD’s capabilities, air traffic control, airport security, and other matters. These experts, numbering in the thousands, have been shouted down by know-nothings in the media who brand the experts as “conspiracy theorists.”

This despite the fact that the official explanation endorsed by the official media is the most extravagant conspiracy theory in human history.

[affozyBoomi]

answer me this: even IF any of this EDIT: 'rubbish' was true, DOES IT AFFECT YOU?! AND CAN YOU DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT?! exactly.

[samanthalueus]

There's no denial that the Hizbush-Shaytan, consisting of Jinns and humankind, exists and is working hard in our times, but the only solution as brother Ahmed mentioned is for the Muslims to get back on the right track (i.e. the Sunnah of our beloved Messenger of Allah ). And you won't achieve this by scaring the Ummah from devil-worshipping Billionaires. Wallahu 'Alam.

[awagsFare]

There's no denial that the Hizbush-Shaytan, consisting of Jinns and humankind, exists and is working hard in our times, but the only solution as brother Ahmed mentioned is for the Muslims to get back on the right track (i.e. the Sunnah of our beloved Messenger of Allah ). And you won't achieve this by scaring the Ummah from devil-worshipping Billionaires. Wallahu 'Alam.

[layedgebiamma]

With all due respect, people resist your conspiracies for two reasons; 1) they're ridiculous, and 2) they're irrelevant.

[dAy2EWlg]

With all due respect, people resist your conspiracies for two reasons; 1) they're ridiculous, and 2) they're irrelevant.

But is there truth to them?

[Galinastva]

I don't believe in all conspiracy theories. But I also believe some have enough evidence that rejecting and making fun of them is being purposely blind.

Here's an interesting site:

http://www.truthalwayswins.org/index.php

[ResuNezily]

There is no conspiracy bro, everything is hidden in plain sight.

[exchpaypalgold]

Because it is synonymous with katheer-ud-dhann.
There is an Urdu daily in India called Roznama Rashtriya Sahara. It is published by agroup that has lots of bharat-mata in their ideology but the paper is edited by Mr Aziz Burney. He has near complete freedom in about the content and you can see that because some of the things can not be said in any other news paper, for example many pages of Eid prayer photographs and all that. Aziz Burney took up the cases of muslim youth being held without trial and because of this many families benefited. He also campaigned about many of the blasts in India being handiwork sangh parivar terrorists. He also floated a conspiracy theory: the mumbai attacks were done by sangh parivar. This single conspiracy theory turned out to be his undoing. One day he apologized on front page for his theory and its publication in his paper and for writing a book. The court might have got him in the corner. So it is better to stick to orthodox and conservative reality.
And Allah (SWT) knows better.
Wssalam

[shihoodiacarf]

Because its too much for them to digest.

[Toscoropreark]

There is no conspiracy bro, everything is hidden in plain sight.

This is it, exactly. You can look at what corrupt governments do and it's all in plain sight. They don't need to hide anything, all the have to do is keep the average person content with his life and spoon feed him nationalistic or humanitarian rhetoric about how what they're doing is right, and as long as most people have food, water, shelter, and "entertainment" they're content to let life pass them by without questioning anything.

We don't need to make up groups like the Illuminati or blame Freemasons. It's not some kind of hidden fact that the U.S./UK/etc. are corporatocracies who do what they do for money, power, and corporate interests. It's not hidden, it's just that most people either don't think about it or don't care. These governments don't have some super secret hidden agenda either, they're after money and power by any means necessary, and they don't do much to hide it.

[awagsFare]

We don't need to make up groups like the Illuminati or blame Freemasons. It's not some kind of hidden fact that the U.S./UK/etc. are corporatocracies who do what they do for money, power, and corporate interests. It's not hidden, it's just that most people either don't think about it or don't care. These governments don't have some super secret hidden agenda either, they're after money and power by any means necessary, and they don't do much to hide it.

Very true. They are after money and power and they have their methods to acheive it.