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06-14-2010, 03:15 AM
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 Salafi site's refutation of Martin Lings
(Note: I do not wish to make this thread into a Perrenialist vs. Non-Perenialist discussion. I am only trying to get opinions about the link in question from Non-perrenialists. If the perrenialists have a problem with the content of the link in question they may open another thread).
Salam Alaykum, I found the following link in a Salafi site talking about the errors of Martin Lings' biography of the Prophet (Salla Allahu Alayhi Wa Sallam): http://abdurrahman.org/innovation/pe...listpoison.pdf I would like to ask the members in here who have more knowledge about whether the criticisms presented are valid or whether there are problems in what is being mentioned. |
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06-14-2010, 09:46 AM
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 Well, first off, I'd stay away from that website, as it is full of Madkhali lies and slanders, and even includes the works of people recognized by their own scholars as deviant (namely Ali al-Halabi). Secondly, I'd say the Salafi brother does a pretty good job refuting Martin Lings, though not without the typical Salafi harshness. One thing I'd like to point out, however, is that the brother's statement claiming consensus upon the complete rejection of weak Ahadith is clearly incorrect. |
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06-14-2010, 09:51 AM
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Good eye akhi! These guys are takfeeri madkhalis. The most harcore in Toronto. About Lings' seerah, I have read it, and loved it. The style in which it is written is beautiful, but I think it has a few mistakes. Shaykh Hamza Yusuf mentioned some of its mistakes in his audio seerah. |
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06-14-2010, 10:22 AM
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 Martin Lings does mention something in his biography of the Prophet  which I am a little unsure about. Here's the quote:" Ibn Sa'd reported on the authenticity of Ibn Abbas (ra) that the revelation paused for a few days, after careful study, this seems to be the most possible. To say that it lasted for three days and/or two and a half years, as is possible, is not correct, but there is no room to go into details. Meanwhile, the Prophet (saw) was caught in a sort of depression coupled with astonishment and confusion. In the Book of Dreams, Al-Bukhari recorded that the Divine inspiration paused for a while and the prophet (saw) became so sad, as we have heard, that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains. Every time he went up to the top of a mountain in order to throw himslef down, Gabriel (as) would appear before him and say: "O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah's Messenger in truth," Where-upon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and return home. Whenever the period of the coming Revelation used to become long, he would do as before, but Gabriel (as) would appear again before him and say to him what he had said before." Is this account authentic, not that it's not believable because we know that Allah  protected his Prophet even before prophethood (e.g. wedding and music incident). It's just a point of attack and I was wondering whether it is a valid one.
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06-18-2011, 11:26 PM
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06-19-2011, 02:02 AM
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السلام عليكم
Thus far no book written by Western researchers or historians about Islam is accurate, there are too many barriers the main one is they have no access to all the sources and they have no idea what is authentic from what isn't. It gets much worse when they start writing about the Rightly-Guided Caliphate era. |
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06-19-2011, 10:05 AM
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I think Lings was just trying to portray Rasulullah SAW as a human that people can sympathize with. It's hard for people to sympathize with characters who are too superhuman in a story; therefore a Western writer usually tries to get the reader to sympathize with the main character by portraying some small non-degrading weakness so that readers will say, "Ah, so he was one of us!"
Someone who has the burden of Prophethood on his shoulders can be reasonably expected to feel a bit weighed down, and Westerners are familiar with the story of Jesus' Night at Gethsemane when Jesus very emotionally prayed to "Let this cup pass from me". It's a common literary technique. Lings made use of a somewhat unsupported part of the hadith so that his Western readers would sympathize with the Prophet. |
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06-19-2011, 11:21 AM
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The best critique (and correction) to Martin Lings' book was written by GF Haddad a few years back. Google it insha'allah.
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