[Hetgvwic]

http://drabutamim.blogspot.com/2011/...r-on-gaza.html

[LeslieMoran]

They have been waging war on Gaza for no other reason than that the muslims voted for Hamas. Allah has tested the muslims of Gaza as they chose Islam and with hardship comes ease inshallah. The shield protecting Israel (the arab dictators) is beginning to fall...

[Arbinknit]

They have been waging war on Gaza for no other reason than that the muslims voted for Hamas. Allah has tested the muslims of Gaza as they chose Islam and with hardship comes ease inshallah. The shield protecting Israel (the arab dictators) is beginning to fall...

And israel are trembling lol. They lost their biggest sandbag (Egypt) and now their shield (Syria) is falling.

Also theres a biblical prophecy saying that Libya will destroy Israel (hehe)

[LeslieMoran]

and their alliance with Turkey has also been broken.

brother emgee909, are you libyan?

[Kokomoxcvcv]

Brothers, We must know that turkey is two different structure.

First Turkey has Ottoman idea, example (Erdogan)
Second Turkey has Western idea, example (? )

In conclusion Turkish goverment, has supporting Gaza, secretly. Secretly because Turkey has memmember of Nato since 1952.

[Hetgvwic]

In conclusion Turkish goverment, has supporting Gaza, secretly. Secretly because Turkey has memmember of Nato since 1952.

Seriously? More strength to the Turks, then.

[Arbinknit]

In conclusion Turkish goverment, has supporting Gaza, secretly. Secretly because Turkey has memmember of Nato since 1952.

And Erdogan and his chums are also supporting Gaddafi

and their alliance with Turkey has also been broken.

brother emgee909, are you libyan?

Salam , since when was it broken??
And yes, i am

[Kokomoxcvcv]

And Erdogan and his chums are also supporting Gaddafi

EmGee909 Brother;
You're wrong. Erdogan doesn't like Gaddafi, But Erdogan was friendly for the sake of politics. Because Too many Turks and Turkish citizens of firms are libya in The first time the rebellion.
Now, Turkish citizens are moved to libya by order of Erdogan.

at the same time
in fact, Erdogan doesn't like to support rebels, because Rebels are exploited by Zionist states. Erdogan's always say " we want peaceful for Libyan people. nor rebels nor Gaddafi. Only ummah, only ummah"

[LeslieMoran]

And Erdogan and his chums are also supporting Gaddafi



Salam , since when was it broken??
And yes, i am

wsalam.
their alliance was first shaken when Erdogan had an argument with Shimon Peres at a summit on TV about the war in gaza. It ended when Israel attacked the flotilla delivering aid to Gaza; killing about 9 turkish citizens (may Allah accept them as shuhada).

please can I ask you regarding Libya. Have the ulama in Libya made takfir on Gaddafi? and if so did any libyan scholars make takfir upon him prior to the current conflict?

[Hetgvwic]

wsalam.
their alliance was first shaken when Erdogan had an argument with Shimon Peres at a summit on TV about the war in gaza. It ended when Israel attacked the flotilla delivering aid to Gaza; killing about 9 turkish citizens (may Allah accept them as shuhada).

please can I ask you regarding Libya. Have the ulama in Libya made takfir on Gaddafi? and if so did any libyan scholars make takfir upon him prior to the current conflict?

If the 'Ulama were to make takfir on Gaddafi, would it help the Ummah in some way? or those who are fighting him?

[Arbinknit]

please can I ask you regarding Libya. Have the ulama in Libya made takfir on Gaddafi? and if so did any libyan scholars make takfir upon him prior to the current conflict?

The ulama have considered him a kafir for a long time. But the majority of ulama in Libya had been exiled and their lives and families were threatened if they dared speak out. Or were forced to speak in favour of Gaddafi. Yeah, at the start of the revolution, the ulama all came out and called him a kafir. But its been obvious for a long time, since he changed the dates of Eid, and changed the Quran, and held his own Green Book as more important than the Quran, banned beards, arrested people who went to the masjid too much and he has been practicing black magic for quite along time.

[Nupbeaupeteew]

@ brother Emgee909. I received this via email. Is there any truth in it?



Did you know this about Libya?


Some other facts (that mainstream media will never disclose) about "Gaddafi and Libya:



- Loans to Libyan citizens are given with NO interest.

- Students would get paid the average salary for the profession they are studying for.

- If you are unable to get employment the state would pay the full salary as if you were employed until you find employment.

- When you get married the couple gets an apartment or house for free from the Government.

- You could go to college anywhere in the world. The state pays 2,500 euros plus accommodation and car allowance.

- The cars are sold at factory cost.

- Libya does not owe money, (not a cent) to anyone. No creditors.

- Free education and health care for all citizens.

- 25% of the population with a university degree.

- No beggers on the streets and nobody is homeless (until the recent bombing).

- Bread costs only $0.15 per loaf.

No wonder the US and other capitalist countries do not like Libya. Gaddafi would not consent to taking loans from IMF or World Bank at high interest rates. In other words Libya was INDEPENDENT! That is the real reason for the war in Libya! He may be a dictator, but that is not the US problem. Also Gaddafi called on all Oil producing countries NOT to accept payment for oil in USD or Euros. He recommended that oil get paid for in GOLD and that would have bankrupted just about every Western Country as most of them do not have gold reserves to match the rate at which they print their useless currencies.

Remember the last time someone had the “NERVE” to make a similar statement was when Saddam Hoosein advised all Opec countries not to accept payment for oil in US Dollars. Well, we all know what happened to him . Yes, they HUNG HIM.

[Arbinknit]

@ brother Emgee909. I received this via email. Is there any truth in it?

Did you know this about Libya?

Yes some of these stats are true. But about there being no beggars.. 50% of the population is unemployed and about 30% are living under poverty line. And it is not true that you get paid full wage until you find work. Also, there is noone homeless now in Libya as a result of NATO, the thousands of people who have been displaced have all been made homeless as a result of Gaddafi's troops indiscriminately targetting civilian homes.

Although the healthcare is free, the quality and standards is terrible.

The reason that the country doesnt 'owe' anyone anything is because it is a socialist country, and just like Russia and China everything is state-owned. Gaddafi and his people have been stealing all the money from their oil exports and that is why they are ridiculously rich. Libya really should be one of the richest countries in the world, and Libyans in essence should be one of the richest populations on Earth and this is a fact. But because of the Gaddafis the country is poor and only his family and his supporters are rich. Gaddafi's own value is estimated at around £80 BILLION. That just goes to show what a greedy dog he is.

During the time of the United Kingdom of Libya, Libya was at its peak. If you look at pictures of it, just look at how modern it was. Everyones wearing nice suits, and driving nice cars. Everyone was allowed to practice their religion properly without fear. Also, under King Idris the strength of the Libyan Dinar to the English Pound was £2.50 = 1 libyan dinar. Thats a fact. Also, gas was very very cheap and every house had a steady supply of electricity and gas, whereas now gas is extremely expensive.

Also, you gotta remember that there are plenty of reasons why Gaddafi should go. Just like there were plenty of reasons why Saddam went, and not just because they didnt want to be paid in dollars.