[Loxaeed]

AOA
Hope all is well and Alalh have mercy on us.

I was talking to a shia brother of mine. And he stated that Shaykh Abdul Qadir jilani wasn't a sufi or a desendant (syed)

Can someone please clarify, I didn't have time to talk to him about it. But if he wasn't a SYED how does that effect his reputation?
Pretty confused.
Please only answer the question, no shia hate .
Jazkallah

[Timoxari]

AOA

What does this mean???

[Timoxari]

Let him not be a syed.How does it matter???

[Loxaeed]

what does this mean???

asalam o alaikum

[Gaiaakgyyyg]

AOA
Hope all is well and Alalh have mercy on us.

I was talking to a shia brother of mine. And he stated that Shaykh Abdul Qadir jilani wasn't a sufi or a desendant (syed)

Can someone please clarify, I didn't have time to talk to him about it. But if he wasn't a SYED how does that effect his reputation?
Pretty confused.
Please only answer the question, no shia hate .
Jazkallah

Shia are kuffaar if they believe what they are supposed to believe. May Allah guide them.

Abdul Qaadir Jiliani (ra) was a Wahhabi Salafi who believed Allah is literally above the throne.

And you should stop talking to people and go read the Quran while understanding it.

[Loxaeed]

Let him not be a syed.How does it matter???

Ya Allah, that's what I'm asking you people.

Please don't reply if you don't have anything useful to say

[Gaiaakgyyyg]

asalam o alaikum

I thought it was New Yorker for "Hey, I'm talking to you"

[Loxaeed]

Shia are kuffaar if they believe what they are supposed to believe. May Allah guide them.

Abdul Qaadir Jiliani (ra) was a Wahhabi Salafi who believed Allah is literally above the throne.

And you should stop talking to people and go read the Quran while understanding it.

What's the point of the forum?
And brother you don't have any right to call shia brothers Kuffaar.
Allah knows best.

[Loxaeed]

Shia are kuffaar if they believe what they are supposed to believe. May Allah guide them.

Abdul Qaadir Jiliani (ra) was a Wahhabi Salafi who believed Allah is literally above the throne.

And you should stop talking to people and go read the Quran while understanding it.

Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani was a Sufi brother

[Gaiaakgyyyg]

What's the point of the forum?
And brother you don't have any right to call shia brothers Kuffaar.
Allah knows best.

I have all the right in the world, are you going to stop me? My scholars said they are kuffar, I live in the country of my scholars, and thus I can say exactly what they said.

This is the right Allah gave me, sorry I'm not nice to those dog faced lying slanderers of my mothers.

And Allah does know best, Especially that Aaisha (radhi Allahu anha) is free from that accusation.

[Gaiaakgyyyg]

Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani was a Sufi brother

Yes a Sufi that believed Allah is literally above the throne, so he was a Wahhabi Sufi.

[Loxaeed]

I have all the right in the world, are you going to stop me? My scholars said they are kuffar, I live in the country of my scholars, and thus I can say exactly what they said.

This is the right Allah gave me, sorry I'm not nice to those dog faced lying slanderers of my mothers.

And Allah does know best, Especially that Aaisha (radhi Allahu anha) is free from that accusation.

I guess your wahabbi.
. Ibn `Umar (May Allah be pleased with them) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "When a person calls his brother (in Islam) a disbeliever, one of them will certainly deserve the title. If the addressee is so as he has asserted, the disbelief of the man is confirmed, but if it is untrue, then it will revert to him.''
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

Abu Dharr (May Allah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) saying, "If somebody accuses another of disbelief or calls him the enemy of Allah, such an accusation will revert to him (the accuser) if the accused is innocent.''
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

[Timoxari]

Ya Allah, that's what I'm asking you people.

Please don't reply if you don't have anything useful to say

The answer is "it wont affect his reputation at all"!

[Loxaeed]

The answer is "it wont affect his reputation at all"!

That's all I wanted to know
Thanks brother

[Gaiaakgyyyg]

I guess your wahabbi.
. Ibn `Umar (May Allah be pleased with them) said: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "When a person calls his brother (in Islam) a disbeliever, one of them will certainly deserve the title. If the addressee is so as he has asserted, the disbelief of the man is confirmed, but if it is untrue, then it will revert to him.''
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

Abu Dharr (May Allah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) saying, "If somebody accuses another of disbelief or calls him the enemy of Allah, such an accusation will revert to him (the accuser) if the accused is innocent.''
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].

Shia are not my brothers ASLAN....

And Shias call Abu bakr and Umar and Aaisha kuffaar you nit wit, so they are ALREADY KAFIIRS by the way of the hadeeth you posted, I am not making takfeer I'm calling a spade a spade.

[Gaiaakgyyyg]

I guess your wahabbi.
.

No I'm Jilaaniyi Wahhabi Sufi non Sayyidi, thank you very much.

[Loxaeed]

Shia are not my brother ASLAN....

And Shia call Abu bakr and Umar and Aaisha kuffaar you nit wit, so they are ALREADY KAFIIRS by the way of the hadeeth you posted, I am not making takfeer I'm calling a spade a spade.

*Never argue with a wahabbi*


Moderator can you please CLOSE this thread since I got my answer.
Jazakallah

[mynaflzak]

Yes a Sufi that believed Allah is literally above the throne, so he was a Wahhabi Sufi.

Wahhabis are follower of Islamic "purification" movement that launched by Shaykh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab.

So, how can you say Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jelani is wahhabi if he was born hundreds year before the birth of Shaykh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab ?

[Gaiaakgyyyg]

*Never argue with a wahabbi*


Moderator can you please CLOSE this thread since I got my answer.
Jazakallah

Do shia call Abu Bakr a kaafir yes or no?

If yes, and you deny their kuffar you should go check your own Iman.

and yes please don't Argue with a Jilaniyi especially by using hadeeths that you didn't even want to use in regards to and protecting your own mother.

[Gaiaakgyyyg]

Wahhabis are follower of Islamic "purification" movement that launched by Shaykh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab.

So, how can you say Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jelani is wahhabi if he was born hundreds year before the birth of Shaykh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab ?

Things that make you go hmmm.....

So tell me what was a bida'a that Abdul Wahhab launched?