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Old 03-25-2006, 03:23 AM   #1
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Default Why is it that tabligh brother aren’t fighting jihad?
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but jihad {fighting} is fard upon the ummah right now isn’t it. The unislamic governments and the united states attack Muslims every day. I’m sure tabligh is a noble thing but maybe the timing is wrong . Its hard to even go on jammat hearing brothers say that this is jihad and this is the sacrifice of sahaba. I think theirs more sacrifice in jihad . Maybe jammat is different overseas but in the u s it is pretty slack . Also it is to my understanding that each nation should send people out for jihad twice a year does any nation do this? I follow hanbali so isn’t jihad fardz upon me?


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Why the Tabligh brothers are singled out for not engaged in Jihaad? Is every one else engaged in Jihaad? The people in Tabligh are engaged in a noble work. That is appreciated by those who have benefitted from the efforts and sacrifices of the Tabligh effort. Thousands of Muslims around the globe have realised their purpose of being created in the world. They have understood what is obedience to Allah and reformed their lives. They began performing their five daily Salaats. That impacted in all spheres of their life. Their personal and family life became a paradise in this world. When Allah consciousness enters into a life of a person, that person’s focus moves away from this temporary abode to success in the hereafter.

If Muslims change their way of life and adhere to the Shari’ah, and the Sunnah of Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam], the non-Muslims and governments will be impressed. We have become targets because we do not practice true Islam. The people around the Sahaaba [radhiallaahu anhu] and the pious predecessors observed the way of life of the Sahaaba and the pious predecessors [radhiallaahu anhu] and were impressed. That attracted the people to Islam. Before discussing the issue of Jihaad, it is important to focus on strengthening one’s faith, Imaan and practice. That is being well achieved through the noble work of Da’awah and Tabligh. Join them and see the spirituality in that effort. It is the easiest and most effective recipe to peace and happiness.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
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Old 03-25-2006, 04:37 AM   #2
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If Muslims change their way of life and adhere to the Shari’ah, and the Sunnah of Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam], the non-Muslims and governments will be impressed. We have become targets because we do not practice true Islam.
I'm sorry, but this is not completely true. The Prophet (SAW) and the
Sahaba were the best of people and practiced Islam in the best manner possible ... yet they were made targets of oppression and injustice. They faced difficulties wherever they turned, and were engaged in battles all their lives. If you ever read a book of early Islamic history, the greater portion will be that of defence and conquest. Just like the Tablighi's nowadays say .. 'yehi kaam hai' (this is THE work) ... the Companions treated Jihad the same way.
The disbelievers will never be happy with us, and their beef with us will remain until either we or them change ways ... and it sure as hell ain't gonna be us. If we all start using the miswak, wearing a topi, smilling at each other, and stop cursing ... while we will be attaining nearness to Allah insha'Allah by adopting the Sunnah, the disbelievers will still ravage us just as they are doing today. If we want to adopt the Sunnah in its entirety .. well .. Jihad was also the Sunnah, was it not? The Prophet (SAW) predicted this during his lifetime ... he said that the disbelievers will attack the muslims as if they are feasting from a plate ... and it will not be because we are few in number, but because we have 'wahn' in our hearts - fear of death and love of this world.

people to Islam. Before discussing the issue of Jihaad, it is important to focus on strengthening one’s faith, Imaan and practice.
So after what level of faith, iman, and practice may we discuss Jihad? Perfecting ones faith, iman, and ibadaat is a struggle which lasts till our very last breath! If that is so, then we will never be able to discuss Jihad, as pefecting the so-called prerequisites takes a lifetime! The effort of Tabligh is supposed to bring people back to practicing the religion ... Jihad is part of it! It becomes Fard 'Ayn in concentric circles until the entire Ummah has this obligation on their neck! Heck, let's assume it wasn't Fard 'Ayn .. and merely a Nafl act of worship. Then surely, if people are truly practicing the deen, they would aspire to engage in Nafl worship as well, no?


Instead of implicitly denying that people should take part in Jihad, they should just say: Yes, Jihad is essential and some people should take part in it ... however we need people in all fields of the religion, and Da'wah is no exception (division of labor). He just discounted Jihad all together by saying not to discuss it until one has perfected faith, iman, and practice. *sigh*
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Old 03-25-2006, 08:28 PM   #3
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Assalmu alyakum,

Well many, many ,many tablighi brothers DO go for jihad. Who cares that the group as a whole doesnt' go for jihad!

It wasn't set up for jihad was it? It was set up for tabligh!

That's like saying "why don't the jihadis go for tabligh?" Well duh, becasue the jihadi groups are setup up for jihad, not tabligh!


Tabligh brothers just don't talk about going to jihad unlike other loud mouth jihadis, instead they just go get the job done. It is a matter of pure ignorace to say tablighis gon't go to jihad, and it's most likely people who have never been to the taining camps that say such nonsensical things. Go to the camps and you will see brothers who have been on jihad for nearly a decade state things like "glue yourself to tablighi jamaat when away from the camps" etc.

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Old 03-25-2006, 08:33 PM   #4
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By the way, most of the jihad in kashmir and afghanistan is done by tablighi brothers and seeing that it was Afghanistan that played a crucial role in reviving jihad over the last 2 decades, it can even be said therefore that tablighi brothers were crucial to reviving jihad. The arab salafis and the pakistani ahlul hadith only came in later, but these days it's their loudmouths that we here from islamic and non islmaic media but go to the lands of jihad yourself and it's a completley different story. The majority of the peopl on jihad are sunnis!

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Old 03-26-2006, 09:18 AM   #5
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The weirdness is that the person asked the question...of why dont tableeghis fo for jihaad....as if the rest of the muslims in the world are going and the tableeghis are the only ones sitting back.

Thats like saying...how come the somolains arent going for jihad?
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Old 03-27-2006, 04:58 AM   #6
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there are teachers and street cleaners ,electricians,and plumbers mechanics and heart surgeons etc

lets all become heart surgeons
see what happens
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Old 03-27-2006, 07:44 AM   #7
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there are teachers and street cleaners ,electricians,and plumbers mechanics and heart surgeons etc

lets all become heart surgeons
see what happens
LoL. Right on! Division of labor.
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:06 AM   #8
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The truth is that tabligh was set up for jihad. if you look into the books it is clear.
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:31 AM   #9
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[B][COLOR=Red]Why the Tabligh brothers are singled out for not engaged in Jihaad?

The very first sentence came in my mind after reading the thread´s headline. for sharing
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:34 AM   #10
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The truth is that tabligh was set up for jihad. if you look into the books it is clear.
yes it was indeed. please explain the meaning of the 2 bolded words inshallah for the readers.And dont forget to name the books.
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Old 06-12-2011, 12:51 AM   #11
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if my husband never leave me to go out in tabligh, I wonder how am I going to understand if he says that he need to go to fight in jihad..how can I let him go if I am not been given understanding and training about making sacrifice for deen. Having understand the word jihad only will do nothing. But, having been train and practice through mujahadah, spending one wealth, health and time and also making sacrifice of leaving one family to strive for deen, will make a call for jihad, easy for the man who need to go for real jihad and for a family who will be left behind and will be meet together in janaah, Insya Allah. but, without real life training, don't think only by having strive to go jihad will make us just go..it easy to talk and say why people didn;t go jihad, but to actually being in the situation unless you had been train before.

Can you be a heart surgeon only? And if you can, I am sure you will need a training. You can't just go and operate someone heart only with theory , without practical training. And to train ourselves to strive in deen, to make mujahadah leaving people who we love, spend our wealth, health and time, will not be easy unless we had reach certain level of iman. May be not high, but at least at some degree. I saw people who talk about jihad, call people for jihad, but when the real time come and we ask to leave one family for deen, than this is when many many reason given.

this is why tablighi people don;t talk about jihad and nobody know the wife and family of tablighi is the easiest family to be left as they used to. Although it will never been easy but this is what we been practice upon. And when the 'real' time come and our man needed, I am sure we who used to be left by our husband to go for tabligh, will pack our husband back and off he go.
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Old 06-12-2011, 01:01 AM   #12
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if my husband never leave me to go out in tabligh, I wonder how am I going to understand if he says that he need to go to fight in jihad..how can I let him go if I am not been given understanding and training about making sacrifice for deen. Having understand the word jihad only will do nothing. But, having been train and practice through mujahadah, spending one wealth, health and time and also making sacrifice of leaving one family to strive for deen, will make a call for jihad, easy for the man who need to go for real jihad and for a family who will be left behind and will be meet together in janaah, Insya Allah. but, without real life training, don't think only by having strive to go jihad will make us just go..it easy to talk and say why people didn;t go jihad, but to actually being in the situation unless you had been train before.
How did you let him go for tableegh? What trained you for letting him go before tableegh?

this is why tablighi people don;t talk about jihad and nobody know the wife and family of tablighi is the easiest family to be left as they used to. Although it will never been easy but this is what we been practice upon. And when the 'real' time come and our man needed, I am sure we who used to be left by our husband to go for tabligh, will pack our husband back and off he go. When will the "real" time come?
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Old 06-12-2011, 01:15 AM   #13
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When will the "real" time come?


When pakistan starts doing real jihad
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