[Fdmnrnba]

Asalam Alykum WrWb,

When does a Salik start hating his/her sins? Is this a life long struggle or comes after a particular stage, past enough suppression of the nafs concerning that sin?

Waiting for a detailed reply.

JazakAllah khair.

Wa alykum asalam WrWb.

[Pjayjukr]

May Allah give us all tawfiq.

[allaboutauto.us]

walaykum asalaam

i would think that hating sins is one of the first phases as those who hate their sins and want to rectify themselves take the path of suluk?

hating a sin is not the same as giving it up, hating it would be realising it is wrong, feeling bad after having committed a sin?

[Ikhqgvas]

I think by hating the OP means feeling disgust, for eg hearing music makes one feel annoyance and irritation at the music etc rather than some sort of enjoyment.

Developing hatred for sin increases with love for Allah and his Rasul . It differs with each individual. It could be someone has to struggle their whole life to keep away from a sin. However Allah will instill in that person the sweetness of Emaan due to his/her constant effort.

[maliboia]

I'll agree with sister Aram that being a salik is an evidence of hating sin.
Thus the question now gets modified to the following one: When does a salik hates sins more?
To answer this I'll say that more faith, belief, eemaan a salik has more he hates sin. I heard in a Jama'at bayan that eemaan increases by three things: dawat, tilawat and dua.

Now increasing eeman is good thing but the query is particularly about inculcating hatred for sins. In this context following things can be done. To invite people to give up sins. To invite people to hate sins.This is dawah as suited for the present query. Then indulging in tilawat, Recitation of the Holy Qur'an will also bring hatred for sins in heart. For example one would think that should I use bad words with the same tongue that I just used to Recite the words of Allah (SWT). This should lead to hatred for sins of tongue. Finally supplicating to Allah (SWT) for filling one's heart with the hatred of sins perhaps will be the easiest option.

Now this is a bit general. The solution will be easy if the sin that is to be hated is known. Or the list of sins that are desired to be hated. I am not asking for that. That itself is a sin-to ask about others sins. So it again boils down to asking your Shaikh about hating a particular sin. These are my two cents.
Wassalam

[hauptdaunnila]

Assalamualaikum brother,

Honestly, it is tough. I hate my sins, but I do not know if I am a salik. The best way to go about getting to a point where you hate your sins is to (and this is for me too and something I do, but I am not sure if it will work for everyone... just saying) start off with the basics. Build belief and consciousness of Allah in each action you do and when an evil sin occurs, see if you shed a tear. If you are happy in doing that sin or nothing prevents you from doing that sin consciously, then you have to work on your Iman. Second of all (and this kind of helps with the first point): try to use prayer and salat as a means of communication with Allah SWT, meaning be conscious of every word you are saying. When you say Allahu Akbar, recognize that you are saying that all Greatness belongs and is with Allah and that Allah is the owner of all true Power. When you recite Surat Al Fatihah in your heart, try to feel the meaning of each word as if you are indeed asking Allah to guide you on the straight path with all your heart and to prevent you from committing sins. When you say Ameen, in your heart acknowledge that Allah will InshAllah answer this dua. I usually recite a certain surah there after depending on my condition. If I am in need of patience, I usually recite Surat Al Asr. If I need to reaffirm my Taqwah, I usually recite Surat Al Ikhlas and so on. Basically, look at Salat as beyond something just ritualistic. Just my 5 cents/pence/whatever the basic coinage is in your country.
Salams

PS: My whole point is, you got to build up your heart with consciousness in order to start hating one's own sins and faults.

[CruzIzabella]

Asalam Alykum WrWb,

When does a Salik start hating his/her sins? Is this a life long struggle or comes after a particular stage, past enough suppression of the nafs concerning that sin?

Waiting for a detailed reply.

JazakAllah khair.

Wa alykum asalam WrWb.

No restrictions for saalik here - all believers should hate sins.

Narrated Al-Harith bin Suwaid (Radi'Allahu anhu): 'Abdullah bin Mas'ud (Radi'Allahu anhu)
related to us two narrations: One from the Prophet (Sall'Allahu alaihi wa sallam) and the other from himself, saying:

"A believer sees his sins as if he were sitting under a mountain which, he is afraid, may fall on him;
whereas the wicked person considers his sins as flies passing over his nose and he just drives them away like this." Abu Shihab (the sub-narrator) moved his hand over his nose in illustration.

Work steadfast on nafs after sometime this condition will come on. If you can spend some time in shaikhs khanqah it would be very beneficial.

[Fdmnrnba]

Asalam Alykum WrWb,

JazakAllah khair for the replies.

I think i am in trouble

I am in a period of nafs recoil. The past 5 months went smoothly Alhumdulilah, then i got holiday for 2 weeks and i havent really got so much time off before. So i was amazed that suppressing my nafs was becoming difficult in free time. I asked my Shaykh and he said the problem is you havent started hating your sins as your suppression of nafs is dependent on your tight schedule and not for Allah SWT.

I dont even know why i was staying away from sins. The only 2 things which come to my mind is grave and hellfire. It takes no seconds for me to turn away from sins when i think in detail about the punishment of grave and the hell fire..

Now what intention is this? Is this purely for the sake of Allah SWT or i am being selfish that Im staying away from sins for myself so i escape the fire.

A bit confused. If you all could sort this out for me.

I am not feeling well these days, the signposts that am seeing and the dreams are clear indication that i am somehow not the same as before. I am not trying to worship any feeligns here. But i am new in tareeqas so need some help.

JazakAllah khair.

[Borrinas]

Asalam Alykum WrWb,
I dont even know why i was staying away from sins. The only 2 things which come to my mind is grave and hellfire. It takes no seconds for me to turn away from sins when i think in detail about the punishment of grave and the hell fire..

Now what intention is this? Is this purely for the sake of Allah SWT or i am being selfish that Im staying away from sins for myself so i escape the fire.

Isn't the fear of Hellfire, fear of Allah's punishment?
So basically this fear is for the sake of pleasing Allah right. Thats how i understand.

Allah knows best.

Edit: Take a look at this post on fearing Allah http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post614131

[Fdmnrnba]

Isn't the fear of Hellfire, fear of Allah's punishment?
So basically this fear is for the sake of pleasing Allah right. Thats how i understand.

Allah knows best.

Edit: Take a look at this post on fearing Allah http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post614131

JazakAllah khair brother.

When I am trying to do good deeds, jannah or pleasing Allah SWT doesnot come to my mind. What crosses my mind is, that i need to do good deeds so i erase my sins which might put me to hell fire.

That said, why am i having a severe nafs recoil? Its like this huge force which was under control and is now leashed.

Anyone please, read both my posts and shed some light.

Wa alykum Asalam.

[maliboia]

Asalam Alykum WrWb,

JazakAllah khair for the replies.

I think i am in trouble
Relax brother. Though we can not afford to give up our guard till we enter Jannah but there is no cause to panic. We get to get worried-not panic.
I am in a period of nafs recoil. The past 5 months went smoothly Alhumdulilah, then i got holiday for 2 weeks and i havent really got so much time off before. So i was amazed that suppressing my nafs was becoming difficult in free time.
Our condition in presence of Shaikh is different from the one we have when we are away from him.
In his presence we are incline towards Sunnah, in his absence we become lax. Nothing new about this. Remember crying of Hazrat Hanzala (RA) and asserting that Hanzala has become an hypocrite?
I asked my Shaykh and he said the problem is you havent started hating your sins as your suppression of nafs is dependent on your tight schedule and not for Allah SWT.
Take it as a factual statement rather than any sort of alarm bell. Shaikh will also tell you how to hate sins.

I dont even know why i was staying away from sins.
This is a typical feeling during progress in sulook. You are perfectly on the right path. When a wrong notion goes out you feel scared. You start asking whether there is any good in me. When I told my Shaikh about palpitations he simply said that yes it is also one of the feelings. Only that!
The only 2 things which come to my mind is grave and hellfire.
That is fear of Allah-a desirable thing.
It takes no seconds for me to turn away from sins when i think in detail about the punishment of grave and the hell fire..
That is what it is supposed to do.

Please add one more sentiment to add. When you think about hell fire and punishments then also start thinking that Allah (SWT) is telling you that these are the horrors that He is saving you from. That is the second half of the fear and hope pair.

Now what intention is this? Is this purely for the sake of Allah SWT
It is.
or i am being selfish that Im staying away from sins for myself so i escape the fire.
Nothing wrong in that. In fact that is how it should be.
Of course there is stage in sulook when one goes beyond above state but that is next stage. That will come later, IA.

A bit confused.
Get used to it, as I said above that since old beliefs and attitudes are replaced by new we get scared.
It is part of the game.
If you all could sort this out for me.
I hope the things are clear by now.

I am not feeling well these days,
Been there. Done that. You are fine dear brother.
the signposts that am seeing and the dreams are clear indication that i am somehow not the same as before.
This is sulook, salik is one who seeks, walks. He who walks does not remain at the same place. Mabrook.
I am not trying to worship any feeligns here.
I do not know what you mean.
But i am new in tareeqas so need some help.
We all are new in different stages.

JazakAllah khair.

Supplications requested.
Wassalam

[BarBoss]

What the mashaayikh of the path mention is that there are degrees of sincerity in action: the lowest is that you do them for worldly benefits; higher than that is that you do them out of fear of the fire and longing for paradise; higher still is that you do them only for Allah, following his messenger sallaLlahu 'alayhi wa alihi wa sallam.

However, it is not as black and white as the above. All three stages are inter-twined and necessary. Please do maintain your fear of the hell-fire -- this is your base. We have been commanded to make frequent rememberence of death (akhthiru min dhikri haadim al-lazzaat...), and this is not without purpose -- clearly, it is to help us stay away from sin. However, to increase your sincerity, you should increase your love for Allah's messenger sallaLlahu 'alayhi wa alihi wa sallam by recognizing that all the goodness we feel as a result of our din is due his efforts. You will thus come to love Allah, the one who sent him, and simillarly you should recognize Allah's blessings on you (even the blessing of life, for he specifically chose life and sustenance for YOU), and feel happiness about these blessings.

There are three driving factors on the path: [1] Tarhib -- fear [2] Targhib -- encouragement and [3] Tashwiq -- longing and love. All three are necessary.

This is what I've learnt, and for me this is a daily struggle. May Allah give us tawfiq to follow in the footsteps of His beloved, sallaLlahu 'alayhi wa alihi wa sallam.

was-salam

[Fdmnrnba]

Asalam Alykum WrWb

JazakAllah Khair everyone and brothers Mariput and Suleimanibnsalim. The situation is much clear now. Alhumdulilah. This is what i was looking for. JazakAllah khair.

Il make dua for you.

Wa alykum Asalam.