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Old 04-03-2009, 07:42 AM   #1
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Default Why US hit Baluchistan?
Why US hit Baluchistan? Checkout this news in attachment. if some one find this news in english please update here.
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Old 04-03-2009, 09:30 AM   #2
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...1101421_2.html
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:21 PM   #3
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Both hunger USSR and US only came for world largest gold & copper elements land Baluchistan.
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:09 PM   #4
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http://www.gulfnews.com/World/Pakistan/10297157.html

http://changinguppakistan.wordpress....t-balochistan/

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=168447




One pakistani kaffir ANP Party leader Asfandyar Wali Khan trying to help them.

http://blog.taragana.com/n/us-drones...fandyar-20003/
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:22 PM   #5
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One pakistani kaffir ANP Party leader Asfandyar Wali Khan trying to help them.
Assalam Alaikum.

It is a major sin (gunah-e-kabeera) to call any muslim kafir.

No matter, how bad or secular ANP is, they call themselves muslims.
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Old 04-03-2009, 01:34 PM   #6
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Assalam Alaikum.

It is a major sin (gunah-e-kabeera) to call any muslim kafir.

No matter, how bad or secular ANP is, they call themselves muslims.
Wa Alaikum Aslaam Wah RahmatAllah,

What ever munafiq name is, if he kill one Muslim or order to kill one Muslim or convinced to others for kill one Muslim he is murderer of Muslim and murderer of Muslim is kaffir until judgment day Allah will decide to where will his actual place for next life.
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Old 04-03-2009, 02:21 PM   #7
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No matter, how bad or secular ANP is, they call themselves muslims.
Brother, can I say La-illaha-ill-Allah and than bow to Pooja, call on 'Alee (ra), profess faith in Mirza Ghulaam and sacrifice my son to the sun? Would I still be Muslim? W/salaam.
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Old 04-03-2009, 02:48 PM   #8
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Brother, can I say La-illaha-ill-Allah and than bow to Pooja, call on 'Alee (ra), profess faith in Mirza Ghulaam and sacrifice my son to the sun? Would I still be Muslim? W/salaam.
Assalam Alaikum.

I think i wrote a pretty simple sentence.

If a person accepts Mirza Ghulam as a messenger, he is a kafir.

If a person calls on Ali (RA) and abuses the sahaba, and believes Quran is tempered, he is kafir.

What has this got to do with what i wrote? If a person claims to be a muslim, then how can you call himself kafir? Just because he supports the US doesn't make him kafir.
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Old 04-03-2009, 02:51 PM   #9
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he is murderer of Muslim and murderer of Muslim is kaffir
Assalam Alaikum.

Please bring forward proof from the Quran, Hadeeth, the Sahaba and the pious salaf for your above mentioned statement.
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Old 04-03-2009, 03:31 PM   #10
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If a person claims to be a muslim, then how can you call himself kafir? Just because he supports the US doesn't make him kafir.
Brother, you wrote that he adheres to a party which is inherently "secular". Our scholars said that those who disestablish the necessity of shariah are from the kufaar. Did I misunderstand what you were saying or are you saying that adhering to, promoting or working towards secularism - and away from shareeah - is not kufr? I'm not defending the brother who called this man a kaafir, I know little about him and laymen shouldn't be giving verdicts anyways, but how is your defense even valid when you say it doesn't matter how secular so-and-so is? Turkey bans hijaab - this is outright kufr, indisputable, in it's secularism.

My comment is not about the man or takfeer directed at him, who I frankly view as being on the side of Pakistaan, albeit in a weak and cowardly manner, but about your defending of his party's secularist agenda. As for supporting an aggressive kaafir entity, than that depends on the type of support and neither of us are qualified.
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Old 04-03-2009, 03:32 PM   #11
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Wa Alaikum Aslaam Wah RahmatAllah,

What ever munafiq name is, if he kill one Muslim or order to kill one Muslim or convinced to others for kill one Muslim he is murderer of Muslim and murderer of Muslim is kaffir until judgment day Allah will decide to where will his actual place for next life.
You should study those things with the scholars before making presumptuous statements brother. Don't let your emotions get in front of your intelligence.
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Old 04-03-2009, 03:38 PM   #12
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Brother, you wrote that he adheres to a party which is inherently "secular". Our scholars said that those who disestablish the necessity of shariah are from the kufaar. Did I misunderstand what you were saying or are you saying that adhering to, promoting or working towards secularism - and away from shareeah - is not kufr? I'm not defending the brother who called this man a kaafir, I know little about him and laymen shouldn't be giving verdicts anyways, but how is your defense even valid when you say it doesn't matter how secular so-and-so is? Turkey bans hijaab - this is outright kufr, indisputable, in it's secularism.

My comment is not about the man or takfeer directed at him, who I frankly view as being on the side of Pakistaan, albeit in a weak and cowardly manner, but about your defending of his party's secularist agenda. As for supporting an aggressive kaafir entity, than that depends on the type of support and neither of us are qualified.
Assalam Alaikum.

ANP is a secular party. They want democracy in the country. Their members offer prayers and do hajj etc. How can they be called kafirs?
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Old 04-03-2009, 04:07 PM   #13
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Brother, you wrote that he adheres to a party which is inherently "secular". Our scholars said that those who disestablish the necessity of shariah are from the kufaar. Did I misunderstand what you were saying or are you saying that adhering to, promoting or working towards secularism - and away from shareeah - is not kufr? I'm not defending the brother who called this man a kaafir, I know little about him and laymen shouldn't be giving verdicts anyways, but how is your defense even valid when you say it doesn't matter how secular so-and-so is? Turkey bans hijaab - this is outright kufr, indisputable, in it's secularism.

My comment is not about the man or takfeer directed at him, who I frankly view as being on the side of Pakistaan, albeit in a weak and cowardly manner, but about your defending of his party's secularist agenda. As for supporting an aggressive kaafir entity, than that depends on the type of support and neither of us are qualified.


ur exaggerating the matter

brother statement clearly shows that he was talking in general

Prophet said which nearly means, " the person who reads quran, namaz towards our khibla, and eats our zabiha etc.. is from us "

based on this we should consider him muslim, apart from this we cant call anybody kafir unless some kufr is proven

based on this Munir says we shouldnt call him kafir, even though he is secularist, u cant compare turkish act with ANP party

and even no comment of Munir prove that he is supporting the secularist aggenda or something, if i am missing something, plz show me the comment
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Soon new drones will attempting in all major cities of pakistan as per kafir zardaries humble request to US.
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If i say,out of the whole Pakistan,us is interested only in 1. nuclear weapons & 2. Balochistan, i will not be wrong.The rest of the pakistan they will consider a liability.
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