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Old 05-28-2011, 06:40 PM   #1
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Assalamualeykum,

I'm a recent convert from Spain who started bad I think, because I started reading on Islam in Shi'ite sources. Let me explain briefly. Moroccans here in Spain are sunni, but first muslims I talked to where Iraqui Shi'as and they have lend me books on the right of 'Ali to caliphate very disrespectful of the Companions. At the beginning I thought everything they told me to be very logical but after giving it a second thought I began to have serious doubts. Now I'm looking for help. If you could direct me to online books on the correct Aqeeda. I have to learn everything right from the beginning so any help will be welcomed. Thanks and

Wasalam!
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:33 PM   #2
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Welcome brother.
Delving into controversial aspects is not the best way to learn some thing. So in deed you started on a wrong foot. But then life is like that. There is a long thread here on Sunni Forum about the matters relevant for you. I have a few books on Sunni-Shia matters but they are in Urdu and I do not know about the availability of their English translation. But again there are very knowledgeable brothers on this forum who'll help you out.
Wassalam
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:39 PM   #3
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Assalamualeykum,

I'm a recent convert from Spain who started bad I think, because I started reading on Islam in Shi'ite sources. Let me explain briefly. Moroccans here in Spain are sunni, but first muslims I talked to where Iraqui Shi'as and they have lend me books on the right of 'Ali to caliphate very disrespectful of the Companions. At the beginning I thought everything they told me to be very logical but after giving it a second thought I began to have serious doubts. Now I'm looking for help. If you could direct me to online books on the correct Aqeeda. I have to learn everything right from the beginning so any help will be welcomed. Thanks and

Wasalam!
al-Salamu Aleyikum,

Praise be to God who has guided you to Islam and saved you from the evils of the deviant sects, many people are fooled by the "Twelver Shiite" sect especially on the internet and I am sure the brothers here will provide MANY proper authentic Islamic books for you to read.
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:45 PM   #4
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Welcome brother.
Delving into controversial aspects is not the best way to learn some thing. So in deed you started on a wrong foot. But then life is like that. There is a long thread here on Sunni Forum about the matters relevant for you. I have a few books on Sunni-Shia matters but they are in Urdu and I do not know about the availability of their English translation. But again there are very knowledgeable brothers on this forum who'll help you out.
Wassalam
I think he wants to learn About Proper Islam, I suggest you give him links to e-books of Seerah and books of Fiqh and so on... Don't give him anything complicated though.

و عليكم السلام
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:48 PM   #5
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Brother Habeel and welcom to the forum.

I humbly request the Brothers and Sisters on this forum, who reply to the brothers post, not to turn this thread into one which denounces Shia'ism. There are plenty of threads on here which refute them, that can be accessed easily. Unless of course brother Habeel wants a specific question answered about the topic, as the differences between Shia'ism an Sunnis is a rather complex issue and would only serve to confuse the brother. What the original poster needs is sources which pertain the the basic principals of Islam.

I think he wants to learn About Proper Islam, I suggest you give him links to e-books of Seerah and books of Fiqh and so on... Don't give him anything complicated though.

و عليكم السلام
Preferably Maliki Fiqh
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Old 05-28-2011, 08:53 PM   #6
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Assalamu alikum,

I also think brother would like to find way to proper islam.
Using opportunity I would like to say that many reverts are lost in question of different schools, concept of ijtihad in sunni islam. Can someone suggest some good links on subject? Also I have read the door of shools was open by one scholar from al-Azhar university in Cairo...
Thanks for help, Allahs guidance with us!
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Old 05-28-2011, 09:18 PM   #7
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Ok let me see what I can find for him...

Some Books:

"Virtues of the Quran"
Link: http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_..._the_Quran.pdf

"Knowing Allah"
Link: http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_..._His_Words.pdf

"Message of the Messengers"

Link: http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_...Messengers.pdf

"Paradise and hell"
Link:http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_...wa_An_Naar.pdf

"The Prophet's Noble Character"
Link:http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_..._Character.pdf

"Biographies of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs" (This one is 22mb in size so it may take a while to download, you can use download accelerator)
Link:http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_...ed_Caliphs.pdf

"Salvation Through Repentance"
Link:http://www.islamhouse.com/document.p...amic_View).pdf

"Daily and Nightly Supplications"
Link:http://www.islamhouse.com/document.p...plications.pdf

If you need anything specific inchallah we will find it, wal-Salamu Aleykum,
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Old 05-28-2011, 09:19 PM   #8
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Salaam Aleykom,

elhamdolillah you have not fallen into the trap of the evil shiites.

Per your request, this is a good site to read PDF books on the tenants of Islam. There are other sections including [Quran, Hadith, etc.] On the Innovations section on the left, there is a good book called Deviation of the Ummah which takes about the evil rafidah shiites.

http://www.kalamullah.com/new-muslims.html

But please do not let shiites sway you. May Allah SWT protect you and everyone from this cult.

Please review the shiite gameplan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiJkK...eature=related

Also, know that Ali RA was not appointed by Allah SWT or Mostapha SAW. In fact, if one does believe that they have extended the prophethood. but shiites have also made Ali RA[and the Ahle Bayt] into a partner of Allah SWT.

The truth is, Ali RA loved Abu Bekr RA, Omer RA, and Osman RA. Ali RA served as the chief judge, senior advisor, helped implement the shariah during the 3 caliphs, and even was even put in charge by Omer RA. Also, Ali RA had sent his sons [al Hassan RA and al Hossayn RA] to protect Osman RA from the khawarij rioters. Did I not mention that Ali RA named his sons after the 3 caliphs RA and married off his own daughter RA to Omer RA?
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Old 05-28-2011, 09:24 PM   #9
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I think brother Enigma or Nomadic too has a list. I hope the relevant brother will chip in.
Wassalam
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Old 05-28-2011, 09:26 PM   #10
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also see sunnidefense.com
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Old 05-28-2011, 09:40 PM   #11
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Assalamualeykum,

I'm a recent convert from Spain who started bad I think, because I started reading on Islam in Shi'ite sources. Let me explain briefly. Moroccans here in Spain are sunni, but first muslims I talked to where Iraqui Shi'as and they have lend me books on the right of 'Ali to caliphate very disrespectful of the Companions. At the beginning I thought everything they told me to be very logical but after giving it a second thought I began to have serious doubts. Now I'm looking for help. If you could direct me to online books on the correct Aqeeda. I have to learn everything right from the beginning so any help will be welcomed. Thanks and

Wasalam!
salam alaikum my dear brother.

As a Sunni Iranian I am well aware of the missionary work of the Rafidah Shias and their stooges (Iraqis, Lebanese etc.). There is Rafidi Da3wa in many parts of south america even in the caribic (!). I strongly recommend you to watch the following videos (it's a SPANISH playlist):

http://www.youtube.com/user/r12shred...5F818F3D007622

And trust me no sane spanish man who used to put up a Jesus (AS) Image in his house and who used to call upon Jesus/mary/saint 1,2,3,4,5,etc will leave that shirk and the claim of the priests that there is NO WAY to God except thru the son, mary, endless saints just to replace it with:

- an Image of Ali (RA) and the Imams:

http://s4.postimage.org/edjcjplw/15iraq_650.jpg

- to call on 14infallibles to get closer to Allah (instead of the saints of the church. I.e. replacing YA Jesus with YA Ali, YA Mary with YA FATIMAH etc etc)


Imagine a spanish christian asking a Rafidi:"Is Jesus dead"?

Rafidi:"According to Muslims, Sunnis and Shias he is alive".

Christian:"Ah, so since we can call on Muhammad and Ali, can I also make "Tawassul" "("intercession") to Jesus? In a nutshell can I say:"O JESUS!" or:"O SWEET MARY"
(without believing he is the son of god, just a messenger)???

Rafidi:"Yes ..."

(Sane)Christians:"Wow, wow, dude, so basically you guys telling me that I am a Mushrik due to me believing that Jesus is the son of God, fine, fair enough. Yet instead of telling me to worship NONE but Allah, to direct all Du'a (which is WORSHIP) to Him ALONE, you are telling me that I can call on Jesus and in addition 14infallibles?

Rafidi:"That's TAWASSUL! You WAHHABI CHRISTIAN!"

Christian:"Wahhabi Christian? What the ... ??? Anyway, I'm certainly not searching for a religion that tells me to go (AGAIN) thru saints, in this case "Imams" to get closer to God. Our priests also claim not to worship Mary, when you confront them they shout:"INTERCESSION, INTERCESSION!!!." But they LIE, all Mushriks like, this NON-ISLAMIC Tawassul/Intercession is your excuse to do shirk, you guys are not asking anyone to "ask Allah", you simpley call DIRECTLY upon your saints (Imams) is just like what the Mushrik CATHOLICS do, proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5tadHJ07jU

so leave me alone with your catholic version of "Islam", I am looking for Islam, this is for your Rafidi, christians and all those charlatans:





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dear brother also check this channel: www.youtube.com/leftshia4good
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:36 PM   #12
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Like I said please do not turn this thread into a debate between Shia and Sunni Islam. The brother needs basic books on the principals of Islam.

Does anyone have a PDF link to "The Sealed Nectar"?
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Old 05-28-2011, 10:50 PM   #13
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Like I said please do not turn this thread into a debate between Shia and Sunni Islam. The brother needs basic books on the principals of Islam.

Does anyone have a PDF link to "The Sealed Nectar"?
The book "The Sealed Nectar" by al-Mubarakfuri:
Description:
A complete authoritative book on the life of Prophet Muhammad (S) by Sheikh Safi-ur-Rahman al-Mubarkpuri. It was honored by the World Muslim League as first prize winner book. Whoever wants to know the whole life style of the Prophet in detail must read this book.
Link: http://d1.islamhouse.com/data/en/ih_...led_Nectar.pdf
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:01 AM   #14
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Instead of getting into polemics , i will make a case based on my claim that "Shiasm is an insult to human intellect, self respect and rational thinking , let alone being a Religion" .Shiasm lacks a central coherent theme so it makes it hard for me to pin point some of their common beliefs but Here are the basic pretensions of shiasm on which it stands.

1. The era in which Sayyedna Muhammad SWS lived was an era of turmoil and only 7 people converted to Islam. The rest of the people who spent a great deal of time with the Prophet PBUH were hypocrites.Even he could not many of his save many of his own wives who are in hell -fire now (Na'audubillah min Zalik) . The duty of cursing the companions and wives of Prophet PBUH was left to the Shias to come later.

2. Hadrat Ali ra deserved to be the Caliph and it was binding on each an every person of that time to accept him as his Imam but it did not happen. The real Islam got buried right there. While the real Islam was drowning , Hadrat Ali played the role of a silent spectator as he could have been killed if he would have opposed the hypocrites.

3.The son of Hadrat Ali ra , Hadrat Hassan ra followed his father and so gave the caliphat to Hadra Muaviya ra (Who is a heretic according to the shias)

4.However , for some strange and unexplained reasons , the other son of Hadrat Ali ra , Hadrat Hussain ra decided to go against the rules laid by his father(ie to remain silent out of fear of death) and he picked up the sword and revolted against a tyrant king. His own cousins and brother did not accompany him in this battle so they also became heretic.

5. It is binding on every Muslim to follow and obey the divinely appointed Imams of the time in every worldly and extra-wolrdly matter. The institution of Imamat was set to save the Muslims from getting deviated. However , numerous sects emerged with in shiasm due to the differences on "selection" of Imams and the Imams and sons of Imams had many troubles in between them (One wonders why would a "divinely appointed" selected?)
Its a nice read about this myth http://www.schiiten.com/backup/Ahlel...of-imamah.html

6.All of the sudden or say out of the blue , it was decided the the 12th Imam (WHo never existed as the 11th Imam Hassan Askari died issue-less and it can be historically proved) would get into occultation (out of the fear of death. Again rejecting the Sunnah of Hadrat Hussain Ra) and at the age of 5 , he went into a cave. For some 80 years , he kept on meeting upto 4 people ( Though , hundreds claimed that they meet him) and he appointed the 4 specific people to collect money on his behalf ( Again out of the blue). However , for some unknown reasons , the non-existing 12th Imam went into "Major occultation" ( Though people keep on claiming to having met him even now)

8. It was in the late 70s of the last century (some 1100 years after the disappearance of the non existent 12th Imam) that Khomeini was appointed as the "deputy of the 12th Imam" and following him was declared to be as binding as following the 12th Imam himself. (Inbteween , there is a Hadhir Imam as well , ie Prince Karim Agha khan who is the present Imam of Ismaili Shias). First it was about the 11+1 Imams and now Guess what ?? Congragulations !! The one who rejects Khomeini is a Kaffir as well !! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-cZm...layer_embedded

Thats a short story of the Shias and digest it if you can. Though i personally think that it needs the gastro-intestinal tract of a whimsical , superstitious , daft , retarded and doomed "ithna Ashari shia" to digest it. Even that is not a perfect digestion and the devilish screaming one hears sometimes from these shias is the vomiting out of this same garbage which i have tried to summarize in the 8 points.
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Old 05-29-2011, 08:08 AM   #15
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First of all, congratulations of converting this beautiful Deen (religion) of Islam, and may Allah bless you, keep you strong in your Iman (faith), and make you a source of guidance to others.

At the outset, here are the absolute basics:
http://www.deoband.org/2009/10/aqida...slamic-belief/

If you find that you'd like to learn more, here is what is generally considered the foundational work on Sunni Creed:

Aqida at-Tahawiyyah:
http://www.central-mosque.com/aqeedah/tahawi.htm

An explanation of the Aqida:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/45964674/C...dah-Tahawiyyah

Lectures on the Aqida:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IiBd...layer_embedded

And, here's what is probably the oldest book on the subject:
http://www.euro-sunni.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=71

That should be all you need, and, in fact, is far more than what most Muslims will ever know.

That last link should also prove very useful to you, , as it has a large volume of material for new Muslims.
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