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Old 05-19-2011, 12:37 AM   #1
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Default Friday Prayer sin - question ("he who misses three Friday prayers is kafir")
Assalamu alaykum wa rahmat'Allahi wa barakatuh,

Where I currently live I can not attend Friday prayers with any regularity. There is no masjid within short distance accessible, and I do not have private transportation nor am I within walking distance (~4km) of public transportation (which does not come near to any masjid except for a Shi'a!). I am relatively poor and can not afford a taxi ($70 USD round trip) to go to the masjid every Friday, or I would not be able to pay my obligations in rent, or would be unable to pay for food or medical treatment (I am unable to drive legally due to one medical condition).

I have tried to find Muslims who live in the same apartment development as me to start a Friday prayer, but I have been unable to find a quorum of four males (or four Muslims at all). Moving is not an option, for contractual and financial reasons.

I have been told by one American jurist (I do not know his credentials) who claimed to be a Hanafi, "The law of necessity makes the forbidden permissible", which he said is the reasoning used to allow ethanol containing medications to people who have no alternative, the drinking of khamr by people who would die of thirst, and the eating of swine by people who would die of hunger (these last two examples have Quranic backing in Surah al-Baqara, the same verse that says, "And Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has prohibited to you only carrion, and blood, and swine...") and (what called his reasoning in to question for me), which allows the use of health insurance by individuals who would certainly die unable to afford treatment otherwise.

Is this "Law of necessity" a valid reason to miss prayer, due to poverty and the inability to both attend Friday prayer and pay for a dwelling and food, or is a chronic medical condition that keeps me from driving valid as a "severe illness excuse" (I do not think it is), or am I a sinner* doomed to have my heart cut off from the Glory, and Light and Mercy of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala (and at severe risk of the Fire)?

*I can not believe I am kafir because I do not treat the Friday prayer lightly, do not deny that it is fardh ayn, and do not deny the obligation of any of the commands of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, although I may transgress them: but it is my understanding this makes me a sinner, who can receive the mercy of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala when repenting, not a kafir who has an eternal abode in the Fire of Jahannam.

I have tried to find relevant fatawa online using all of the usual sources (Mufti Ibrahim Desai, Sunnipath), or even usool/fiqh, but have been unable to.

Any help or resource is much appreciated. I apologise if my English is lacking.

La hawla wa la quwwata illa billah.

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Old 05-19-2011, 12:49 AM   #2
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Can you please cite the Hadith, which states that someone who misses three Jumu'ahs in a row becomes a Kafir?
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Old 05-19-2011, 12:55 AM   #3
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Can you please cite the Hadith, which states that someone who misses three Jumu'ahs in a row becomes a Kafir?
Sahih Muslim 865 Urdu translation

Roughly, "Abdullah son of Umar (RA) narrated that he heard Rasulullah (SAW) say from his podium: People must stop abandoning the Friday prayer or Allah will close their hearts and then they will be from among those who deny (or cover or obscure) the truth."

It doesn't say anything specific about three being the specific number, but I have heard that many times. I do not know whether it has some basis in fiqh or is just an often spoken legend or misunderstanding.

Edit: it is from an electronic Sahih Muslim, not a printed version. I do not know whether this makes the text irregular I have no printed version to compare it to.
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Old 05-19-2011, 01:13 AM   #4
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Edit: it is from an electronic Sahih Muslim, not a printed version. I do not know whether this makes the text irregular I have no printed version to compare it to.
There are ahadith that specifically say whoever misses three Jumuah his heart will be sealed:

مَنْ تَرَكَ ثَلاَثَ جُمَعٍ تَهَاوُنًا بِهَا طَبَعَ اللَّهُ عَلَى قَلْبِهِ

(Abu Dawud, also in Sunan al-Nasai)

There could be other narrations as well. For its implication I think it would be wise to check at sunnipath.com or askimam.org
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:09 AM   #5
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Is it not possible to interprete it in a way, which doesn't result in Takfir of Million brothers?
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:33 AM   #6
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Walaikum Assalam brother True Life,

The act must be deliberate and intentioned to be a sin !

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Old 05-19-2011, 02:33 AM   #7
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This is why I am asking of the above, in my first post, as I am very afraid for my soul because I can't attend Friday prayers regularly, whether it is a state of severe sin (in which case I can not repent as long as I am still sinning - not attending Friday prayer, like a person doing zina and trying to repent in the middle of the act), or an act of outright kufr. In my first post I stated that I can't believe it is kufr:

"I do not treat the Friday prayer lightly, do not deny that it is fardh ayn, and do not deny the obligation of any of the commands of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, although I may transgress them: but it is my understanding this makes me a sinner, who can receive the mercy of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala when repenting, not a kafir who has an eternal abode in the Fire of Jahannam."

In a way I am deliberately not attending Friday prayer: but no matter how much I wish to attend, it is beyond my means. I know that I should attend, but I can not, without sacrificing essentials of this life for essentials of the next. Because I am more concerned with food and lodging in this life instead of my soul in the hereafter (Friday prayer), I do not know whether that counts as intention, or just impiety.

However I defer to the ulema on these matters: this is why I asked in the first place. If I did not defer to the ulema, and did ijtihad, I could begin to claim for myself that Friday prayer was not fardh, that witr is not wajib, that intoxication is not haraam, and more. I am not a muhadithin: this is why I ask for interpretation of my situation (and the ahadith that lead me to believe it is great sin or kufr).

Just because many people do something doesn't make it right (argumentum ad populum); by similar logic it could be said that Shi'a is legitimate because millions of people are Shi'a, or that Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala had a son with Himself because a billion people believe it to be true, or that intoxication is makruh or even mubah in the West because most people get drunk: it leads to moral relativity, which is the enemy of truth and the Light of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala and of morality and din.
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:43 AM   #8
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The act must be deliberate and intentioned to be a sin !
Is any deliberate sinful act makes one a kafir? A Muslim won't sin in order to displease Allah, rather they fall short, they get overpowered by their whims and desires. So then why the hadith singles out Jumuah?
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:50 AM   #9
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No, most deliberate sinful acts are not acts of kufr - that's a Khawarij or their descendant Ibadi belief. The hadith seemed to say that I was doing kufr or a mortal sin by not attending Friday prayer even though I do not have the means to ("I did not come to make your religion hard for you..."), so I asked: this has become all about what acts are kufr instead of my original question (of which kufr was a part).

But there is a hadith (Bukhari 800) that says, "A believer who drinks khamr is not a believer while he is drinking khamr, a believer who does zina is not a believer while he is doing the act, a believer who steals is not a believer while stealing."
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:57 AM   #10
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السلام عليكم

Dear brother you are not a Kafir and what you are doing is not Kufr. first of all you are not missing the prayer, you are missing the Friday sermon because you are unable to attend it as: (A) It is extremely far away (B) you have no means of transportation (C) you cannot afford the trip.

من ترك ثلاث جمعات، من غير عذر، كتب من المنافقين Usamah ibn Zaid (rah) says: The Prophet SAWS says: "He who leaves Three Fridays without an excuse then Allah will write him amongst the hypocrites."

source & grade: al-Suyuti says SAHIH in "al-Jami'i al-Sagheer" #8590.

من ترك ثلاث جمع تهاونا بها ، طبع الله على قلبه Abu al-Ja'ad al-Dumari (rah) says: The Prophet SAWS says: "He who leaves Three Friday prayers because he takes them lightly then Allah will seal his heart."

source & grade: al-Albani Says SAHIH in "Sahih-ul-Targheeb" #727.

من ترك الجمعة ثلاث مرات متواليات : من غير ضرورة ، طبع الله على قلبه Abu Qatadah and Jabir ibn 'Abdullah may Allah be pleased with both have narrated: The Prophet SAWS said: "He who leaves Three consecutive Fridays without a necessary reason, Allah has sealed his heart."

source & grade: al-Albani Says SAHIH in "Sahih-ul-Targheeb" #6140.

Which means that brother Khaled ibn Ya'aqoub is no kaffir as he has a pretty good excuse.

Allah does not charge a soul except [with that within] its capacity. It will have [the consequence of] what [good] it has gained, and it will bear [the consequence of] what [evil] it has earned. [Quran 2:286]
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:11 AM   #11
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Can you please cite the Hadith, which states that someone who misses three Jumu'ahs in a row becomes a Kafir?
بن أبي شيبة عن الفضل بن دكين عن زهير عن أبي إسحاق عن أبي الأحوص عن عبد الله وعن عفان عن حماد بن سلمة عن حميد عن الحسن وهي عن سفيان الثوري وبن المبارك ومراون بن معاوية عن عوف الأعرابي عن سعيد بن أبي الحسن عن عبد الله بن عباس أنه قال من ترك ثلاث جمعات متواليات من غير عذر فقد نبذ الإسلام وراء ظهره Ibn Abi Shaybah from al-Fadl bin Dakeen from Zuhayr from Abu Ishaq from Abu al-AhwaS from 'Abdullah and 'Affan from Humad bin Salamah from Hameed from al-Hassan and it is from Suffiyan al-Thawri and ibn al-Mubarak and Marwan ibn Mu'awiyah from 'Awf al-A'arabi from Sa'eed ibn abi al-Hassan that 'Abdullah ibn 'Abbas (ra) says: "He who leaves three consecutive Fridays; he has discarded Islam behind his back."
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:58 AM   #12
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Ibn Abi Shaybah from al-Fadl bin Dakeen from Zuhayr from Abu Ishaq from Abu al-AhwaS from 'Abdullah and 'Affan from Humad bin Salamah from Hameed from al-Hassan and it is from Suffiyan al-Thawri and ibn al-Mubarak and Marwan ibn Mu'awiyah from 'Awf al-A'arabi from Sa'eed ibn abi al-Hassan that 'Abdullah ibn 'Abbas (ra) says: "He who leaves three consecutive Fridays; he has discarded Islam behind his back."
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته۔
Could you please bring forward the original matn of this ̣hadīth?

Furthermore, could you please provide commentary from major scholars about this ̣hadīth?

Trying to interpret ạhādīth on ones own and furthermore trying to do so based on mere translations is nothing but madness and dangerous for ones Dīn.

الله أعلم۔
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:25 AM   #13
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السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته۔
Could you please bring forward the original matn of this ̣hadīth?

Furthermore, could you please provide commentary from major scholars about this ̣hadīth?

Trying to interpret ạhādīth on ones own and furthermore trying to do so based on mere translations is nothing but madness and dangerous for ones Dīn.

الله أعلم۔
1-I provided the original Matn in Arabic from "Al Targheeb wal Tarheeb" 1/352 for al-Munthiri:
"عن ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما قال من ترك الجمعة ثلاث جمع متواليات فقد نبذ الإسلام وراء ظهره"

2-The Hadith does not say "Kaffir", it says "discarded Islam behind his Back" which is the closest thing to what the brother requested.

3-The Hadith is Sahih.

4-The Hadith is Mawquf to Ibn al-'Abbas (ra) who does not attribute it to the Prophet SAWS and here scholars differed:

Some said it is the Ijtihad of Ibn 'Abbas (ra) and his own words, others said it has the ruling of the Marfu'u to the Prophet SAWS as There is no room for Ijtihad in this matter.

5-This Hadith is gathered with the others attributed to the Prophet SAWS which I have provided in the previous post and there is no ruling of Takfeer.
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:27 AM   #14
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I've never fallen into this situation before but I need to know what the Shafi'i position is, does the Man pray four ordinary Raka'at at home if he misses a Jumu'ah?
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:48 AM   #15
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I think that first of all you should ascertain if Salah al-Jumu'ah is fard on you or not: do you live in a big city, how many Muslims around you, distance from the nearest Masjid, etc.
If Jumu'ah is not fard on you you don't have anything to worry about.

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Old 05-19-2011, 05:49 AM   #16
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I've never fallen into this situation before but I need to know what the Shafi'i position is, does the Man pray four ordinary Raka'at at home if he misses a Jumu'ah?


As far as I know who misses Jumu'ah (either for justificate or unjustificate reasons) will have to pray Zuhr instead.
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:16 PM   #17
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Assalamu alaykum wa rahmat'Allahi wa barakatuh,

Where I currently live I can not attend Friday prayers with any regularity. There is no masjid within short distance accessible, and I do not have private transportation nor am I within walking distance (~4km) of public transportation (which does not come near to any masjid except for a Shi'a!).

La hawla wa la quwwata illa billah.

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Wa Alaykumu s-salam.

First, you'll be rewarded with every steps you take to go to the masjid.

Second, there is nothing wrong to pray behind a Shia imam. Just don't recite qunut together with them. While they are reciting qunut, put your hands on your upper stomach.

Wallahu a'lam.
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:22 PM   #18
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Salah Behind a Shia

There are many groups among Shias. The validity of salah behind a shia depends on the Aqaaid (beliefs) of that Shia. The attached article on Shiaism explains our differences with the mainstream Jafari Shias. Salah behind this group of Shias is not valid. (Please see : http://www.al-inaam.com/fataawa/shia_kafir.htm )

And Allah knows best

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Old 05-19-2011, 03:31 PM   #19
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Salah Behind a Shia

There are many groups among Shias. The validity of salah behind a shia depends on the Aqaaid (beliefs) of that Shia. The attached article on Shiaism explains our differences with the mainstream Jafari Shias. Salah behind this group of Shias is not valid. (Please see : http://www.al-inaam.com/fataawa/shia_kafir.htm )

And Allah knows best

Wassalam

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Old 05-19-2011, 03:49 PM   #20
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http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...=1898&CATE=164
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