[Bvghbopz]

Hi,
As a Muslim we believe that everything happen in our life is already decided and written in our destiny. I want to know one thing about which i am confused that if someone is doing gunah in his life and then he got some kind of signal from Allah and he say Tauba from this gunah from his heart. But still cannot get peace of mind and satisfaction and pray to Allah that show him the path Allah chosen for him and attract his heart towards that path and Allah showed him a path then he realized that it is the same path on which he was walking before. what should he do if Allah has brought him again on the same path. He tried his best to change the things but unable to do it and every time remain unsuccessful. should he let him go according to the time as if something is written in your destiny it will happen you cant change it. What to do in that case.

[NanoKakadze]

Hi,
As a Muslim we believe that everything happen in our life is already decided and written in our destiny. I want to know one thing about which i am confused that if someone is doing gunah in his life and then he got some kind of signal from Allah and he say Tauba from this gunah from his heart. But still cannot get peace of mind and satisfaction and pray to Allah that show him the path Allah chosen for him and attract his heart towards that path and Allah showed him a path then he realized that it is the same path on which he was walking before. what should he do if Allah has brought him again on the same path. He tried his best to change the things but unable to do it and every time remain unsuccessful. should he let him go according to the time as if something is written in your destiny it will happen you cant change it. What to do in that case.

Salaam Rabia,

Destiny is of two types sister; one the destiny of Allah's fore-knowledge and this cannot be changed, but there is another destiny which can be changed, and Allah changes this due to our prayers and actions, for example, Allah increases a persons life-span if he looks after an orphan and also we can supplicate to ALlah for ALlah to erase any bad he has written for us in our destiny and write good in it instead

Allah has clarified the right and wrong path for us and it is upto us to stay on the right path sister and if we go on the wrong path we ourselves are to blame; this type of astraying cannot be put down to 'ALlah's destiny' [the type where Allah has ordered us on to it and where we have no choice about it] for indeed we have a choice about it and we will be on the wrong path due to our wrong doings and us not remaining steadfast, or trying hard enuogh to stay on the right path

so try your best to stay on the Islamic path sister, where you are obeying ALlah's commandments and following the Sunnah of the prophet [Saw] and inshALlah if you take one step towards ALlah, ALlah will take ten steps towards you, i.e He will help you a great deal

hope this helps

Salam

[Duseshoug]

sister,

We can't possibly know what Allah knows, and assuming that falling into an old pattern / path is the destiny chosen for a person by Allah... Dangerous, sister.

Asking Allah for guidance is excellent, but unless we have very pure hearts, we can't always be sure that what we "feel" is the path shown to us by Allah, is the path He wants us to take.

The best way to decide what Allah wants us to do, is to read the Quran. Almost everything is outlined there. If something is a sin (gunah) then how can this be what Allah wants for us? He gave us the opportunity of tewbeh for the specific reason that He knows we will commit sins, and He wants us to repent and try to be better people.

People often fall into the same patterns of behavior. A woman who is beaten up by her father may later be beaten up by her husband - and if she divorces him, may later marry another man who beats her up. This doesn't necessarily mean that being beaten up by the men she loves is her destiny chosen for her by Allah! It means that she has grown up to believe this is what she deserves, and maybe subconsciously chooses violent men, or has subconsciously learnt behavior which triggers violence in men (and this is a whole other topic!!). Or, for example, a person who used to take drugs but did tewbeh and tried to change, may once again start taking drugs or doing other harmful and addictive things, because it's the only way they know to "cope" with whatever life throws at them.

We very often have no or little control over external circumstances, but we DO have control over how we react to them. This is why Allah has told us how He wants us to act in different situations. We don't have a lot of control over life's temptations - there is temptation to sin if we never leave the home! - but we DO have control over whether or not we give in to temptations. If we spend our entire lives in poverty, we can choose to either be satisfied (qanaat) with very little (and do our best to work hard to earn enough halal income to buy food), or we can choose to complain, feel discontented, and maybe even commit sins like stealing or prostitution to earn money.

I assure you that we can never know our destiny. Us reverts are good examples of this - one moment we're leading a life which we may think is our destiny, like singing on stage or a lesbian relationship or getting drunk every night - the next minute we're doing tewbeh and scrubbing floors and doing salah and fasting! If this sounds extreme, then listen to this - I know of ex-murderers (well, one!), ex-drug-addicts, even ex-prostitutes who have repented of their sins and now lead a life of pious worship and good deeds.

There is a huge difference between believing in Allah's fore-knowledge of everything, and just surrendering yourself to whatever mess you are in because it's "your destiny". Allah doesn't force you to make your choices. He just knows what choices you will make, because He knows everything. He has also clearly told us WHAT choices we should be making. Why would He bother with the Quran if everything we were going to do was already set in stone?!

If you could give a more specific example of the old path/ new path, maybe we could help you with more specific examples and advice.

[gettoblaster]

Hi,
As a Muslim we believe that everything happen in our life is already decided and written in our destiny. I want to know one thing about which i am confused that if someone is doing gunah in his life and then he got some kind of signal from Allah and he say Tauba from this gunah from his heart. But still cannot get peace of mind and satisfaction and pray to Allah that show him the path Allah chosen for him and attract his heart towards that path and Allah showed him a path then he realized that it is the same path on which he was walking before. what should he do if Allah has brought him again on the same path. He tried his best to change the things but unable to do it and every time remain unsuccessful. should he let him go according to the time as if something is written in your destiny it will happen you cant change it. What to do in that case.

It is not that it is written and we are doing it.actually we HAVE DONE IT in future and it has been written,(as past,present & future is the same for Allah swt).Wallaho alam

[arraxylap]

Salam, good question I was also confused by destiny becasue allah can lead us he can choose who is going to be lead by him, and whom he will let to go astray. So it is so that if we do not do effort he will let us fall?

[uC4F0NVL]

Hi,
As a Muslim we believe that everything happen in our life is already decided and written in our destiny. I want to know one thing about which i am confused that if someone is doing gunah in his life and then he got some kind of signal from Allah and he say Tauba from this gunah from his heart. But still cannot get peace of mind and satisfaction and pray to Allah that show him the path Allah chosen for him and attract his heart towards that path and Allah showed him a path then he realized that it is the same path on which he was walking before. what should he do if Allah has brought him again on the same path. He tried his best to change the things but unable to do it and every time remain unsuccessful. should he let him go according to the time as if something is written in your destiny it will happen you cant change it. What to do in that case.

(1) Please start your posts with otherwise you are not delivering other believers right. I hope you'll take it as a dry information and not any judgment on my part.
(2) Every sin is voluntary (akhtiari). We do it out of our own volition. We are responsible for it in this world and hereafter. Try to cling to this information.
(3) Try to break your problem into two parts. Committing sins, their effects and the way to get out of them. This is part one.
(4) Part two consists regarding destiny. I shall leave that part out completely here. I suggest that you do that same for the time being. Just decide by force that you shall not allow questions regarding destiny to become part of the present problem.
(5) Giving up sins is not like throwing the wrapper into the dust bin. Various sins require various amount of efforts and decisions to get out of. There are reports that people took twenty years to give up the habit of anger.
(6) Some times it is easy to give up a sin. We should thank Allah in such cases.
(7) Sometimes it is difficult to give up a sin. In such cases we have to keep up striving. You fall then you get up and walk on. Fall, get up, walk on. And so on.
(8) Do not get discouraged because of a habit of committing sin not leaving. Feeling of failure has a sense of permanence to it. You feel that this sin will never leave. This is a state that is false. Sins do leave in the sense that we give them up.

I'll need your input if it was useful.
Wassalam

[gettoblaster]

(1) Please start your posts with otherwise you are not delivering other believers right. I hope you'll take it as a dry information and not any judgment on my part.
(2) Every sin is voluntary (akhtiari). We do it out of our own volition. We are responsible for it in this world and hereafter. Try to cling to this information.
(3) Try to break your problem into two parts. Committing sins, their effects and the way to get out of them. This is part one.
(4) Part two consists regarding destiny. I shall leave that part out completely here. I suggest that you do that same for the time being. Just decide by force that you shall not allow questions regarding destiny to become part of the present problem.
(5) Giving up sins is not like throwing the wrapper into the dust bin. Various sins require various amount of efforts and decisions to get out of. There are reports that people took twenty years to give up the habit of anger.
(6) Some times it is easy to give up a sin. We should thank Allah in such cases.
(7) Sometimes it is difficult to give up a sin. In such cases we have to keep up striving. You fall then you get up and walk on. Fall, get up, walk on. And so on.
(8) Do not get discouraged because of a habit of committing sin not leaving. Feeling of failure has a sense of permanence to it. You feel that this sin will never leave. This is a state that is false. Sins do leave in the sense that we give them up.

I'll need your input if it was useful.
Wassalam

Assalamoalaikum, MashaAllah maripat,great information,and yes we should refrain from talking about destiny as our best "kherkhwa" Muhammad Rasool Ullah swallallho alaihu wa sallam has specifically told us not to talk about it.
Molana Ashraf Ali Thanwi ra has written that whenever we commit a sin we should very humbly ask for forgiveness ,even saying that i am not sure of my nafs,i may commit this sin again,but if i do ,i will come back to my Allah and seek forgiveness. If this process is repeated inshaAllah in short time Sins will decrease and one will become more conscious of it.InshaAllah.

[atmowasia]

then listen to this - I know of ex-murderers (well, one!), ex-drug-addicts, even ex-prostitutes

where on earth do you live?

[uC4F0NVL]

where on earth do you live?

brother. That post was giving me a sleepless day.
Wassalam

[Dreqsqse]

Assalam O Alaikum Friends

Excellent explaination by Kayra........thank you so much for such an amazing description regarding the most important topic......

take care

[arraxylap]

Assalamu alikum,
thank you from my side - I have one more question, may be it is not good question but I would like to tell it - I mean - our will - we can decide to follow the pass of allah and we can decide not to listen. It means allah knows what is our destination in sense that if we follow his commands the destiny is Jana. He will judge us based on our deeds. So basically he knows all in the end, but we can choose ourself in daily situations. It is not that he knows now that we are lost and he will not allow us to change this destiny? It is difficult to understand.

[uC4F0NVL]

Assalamu alikum,
thank you from my side - I have one more question, may be it is not good question but I would like to tell it - I mean - our will - we can decide to follow the pass of allah and we can decide not to listen. It means allah knows what is our destination in sense that if we follow his commands the destiny is Jana. He will judge us based on our deeds. So basically he knows all in the end, but we can choose ourself in daily situations. It is not that he knows now that we are lost and he will not allow us to change this destiny? It is difficult to understand.

Since the OP is AWOL we perhaps might indulge in an impromptu party.

Let us consider the following situation.
Abd : I am finding it difficult to make the both ends meet. Please double my income (rizq).
Al-Rahman : Done.

++++++++++++++++

Silly Person (Say Me) : But rizq was predecided. It can not be doubled. It can not be increased even by one percent.
Observer : But Allah (SWT) just did that - He (SWT) doubled his income.
The predecided income was not x but 2x. The destiny is something that belongs to ghaib. So rizq belongs to ghaib. Till you leave the world you can not calculate your rizq.

+++++++++++++++++
Does it help?
Wassalam

[arraxylap]

Since the OP is AWOL we perhaps might indulge in an impromptu party.

Let us consider the following situation.
Abd : I am finding it difficult to make the both ends meet. Please double my income (rizq).
Al-Rahman : Done.

++++++++++++++++

Silly Person (Say Me) : But rizq was predecided. It can not be doubled. It can not be increased even by one percent.
Observer : But Allah (SWT) just did that - He (SWT) doubled his income.
The predecided income was not x but 2x. The destiny is something that belongs to ghaib. So rizq belongs to ghaib. Till you leave the world you can not calculate your rizq.

+++++++++++++++++
Does it help?
Wassalam

Sala alikum,
ok so He can double it if he like - this I understand. He can also change the destiny if he likes? I know it is veiled, it is ghaib.

[uC4F0NVL]

Sala alikum,
ok so He can double it if he like - this I understand. He can also change the destiny if he likes? I know it is veiled, it is ghaib.

(1) It is like this. Allah decided for 3x rizq for whole life time. For fifty years he was given x. Allah knew that he'll ask for more after fifty years. So for next fifty years he was given 2x. Total will be 3x in hundred years-if his life extended to hundred years.

There is the related issue of determinism versus free will. Please read and reread the translation of Verses 81.27-29 together with comments number 5995 and 5996 by Abdullah Yusuf Ali to get this cleared.
(2) We know that Supplications (du'a) can even change the destiny.
Wassalam

[arraxylap]

(1) It is like this. Allah decided for 3x rizq for whole life time. For fifty years he was given x. Allah knew that he'll ask for more after fifty years. So for next fifty years he was given 2x. Total will be 3x in hundred years-if his life extended to hundred years.

There is the related issue of determinism versus free will. Please read and reread the translation of Verses 81.27-29 together with comments number 5995 and 5996 by Abdullah Yusuf Ali to get this cleared.
(2) We know that Supplications (du'a) can even change the destiny.
Wassalam

Salam,
thank you very much fir answers!