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Old 05-08-2011, 09:50 PM   #21
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It's not the mufti using Facebook. It's the darul iftaa admin! But there are other scholars that use Facebook themselves like sh faraz rabbani and Mufti Ismail menk to name a few.
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Old 05-08-2011, 09:53 PM   #22
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It's not the mufti using Facebook. It's the darul iftaa admin! But there are other scholars that use Facebook themselves like sh faraz rabbani and Mufti Ismail menk to name a few.
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:05 AM   #23
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I have never seen a fatwa about FB from the Shaykh but what I asked is, on what basis should he not use FB? If there is no reason for him to NOT use FB, then that means he can use it and so can the other Ulama
Brother, If he is the student of Mufti Taqi Usman Sahab then Why he is using Facebook? Wasn't Hazrath Knows about what his Ustaad said?
Well I can't point out on any Scholar. We don't who is what in the eyes of Allah as what Nabi-e-Rahmat said: ittaqu firasat al-mu'min fa innahu yara bi nurillah




As far as I know, the recommendation to boycott facebook was due to the fact that they allowed disrespect towards Rasulullah , and not necessarily to prevent fitna.

As far as I can tell, it isn't very hard to avoid fitna on facebook, just don't add any members of the opposite gender.

Boycotting facebook is not only for what they allowed disrespect but there are also many
See here
http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...ca96a7661bc30c
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:43 AM   #24
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Even Darul Uloom Deoband has a facebook page!!!
http://www.facebook.com/daruliftaa1#...21161324576694
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Old 05-09-2011, 03:31 PM   #25
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Even Darul Uloom Deoband has a facebook page!!!
http://www.facebook.com/daruliftaa1#...21161324576694
Do they use it daily? When was there last message posted?
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Old 05-09-2011, 03:43 PM   #26
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Even Darul Uloom Deoband has a facebook page!!!
http://www.facebook.com/daruliftaa1#...21161324576694
once more.
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Old 05-09-2011, 06:08 PM   #27
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Wow. We are such a nation of narrow-minded people it's bordering on embarrassing when you are trying to do dawah to non-muslims. For all the people saying some Ulama are saying to avoid facebook (note: they don't say it's haram) it's because of the vices that you can get caught into, in the exact same way as how you should avoid using the internet, or avoid having a mobile phone, or avoid going into town. It's best for those who don't actually have the knowledge, to avoid criticizing the actions of some Ulama in order to put in place your own interpretation of what other Ulama have said. Speak good or remain silent.
By visiting that website, aren't you giving profit to them, as what Mufti Taqi Usman Sahab has said that for each visit of that website will give them some around $2 ( i think)?
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Old 05-09-2011, 06:53 PM   #28
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Apparently, another "Draw Mohammad Day" is scheduled for this month!

When will people take heed?
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:26 PM   #29
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Wow. We are such a nation of narrow-minded people it's bordering on embarrassing when you are trying to do dawah to non-muslims. For all the people saying some Ulama are saying to avoid facebook (note: they don't say it's haram) it's because of the vices that you can get caught into, in the exact same way as how you should avoid using the internet, or avoid having a mobile phone, or avoid going into town. It's best for those who don't actually have the knowledge, to avoid criticizing the actions of some Ulama in order to put in place your own interpretation of what other Ulama have said. Speak good or remain silent.
Respected Sister in Islam,

Your outburst doesn’t make any logical or Shariah sense. I can choose to use a glass for drinking orange juice or wine with the former being permissible and later being Haram.

Internet is a medium and it has its bad and it has its good and the Shariah commands us to use these media for their good while avoiding the evil.

FACEBOOK ran a campaign in which they were complicit in “attempting to dishonour” the beloved of Allah (SWT).
I say “attempt” because it cannot be done and all those who have engaged themselves in this despicable business have darkened their record of deeds for the day of judgement.

Any Muslim who has a sense of “Ghayrah” should feel aggrieved and hurt and the least they should do is stop profiting FACEBOOK!

Lastly, there is no difference in opinion in Shariah on these matters between Ulama & Non-Ulama, if
you know of something which is different please bring the Shariah evidence to our attention.

Please see the Fatwa by our beloved Shaykh (Mufti) Taqi Usmani (HA):

http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/muftiface.htm
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Old 05-09-2011, 08:16 PM   #30
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Hypocrisy of Facebook.
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Old 05-09-2011, 09:10 PM   #31
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Respected Sister in Islam,

Your outburst doesn’t make any logical or Shariah sense. I can choose to use a glass for drinking orange juice or wine with the former being permissible and later being Haram.

Internet is a medium and it has its bad and it has its good and the Shariah commands us to use these media for their good while avoiding the evil.

FACEBOOK ran a campaign in which they were complicit in “attempting to dishonour” the beloved of Allah (SWT).
I say “attempt” because it cannot be done and all those who have engaged themselves in this despicable business have darkened their record of deeds for the day of judgement.

Any Muslim who has a sense of “Ghayrah” should feel aggrieved and hurt and the least they should do is stop profiting FACEBOOK!

Lastly, there is no difference in opinion in Shariah on these matters between Ulama & Non-Ulama, if
you know of something which is different please bring the Shariah evidence to our attention.

Please see the Fatwa by our beloved Shaykh (Mufti) Taqi Usmani (HA):

http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/muftiface.htm
In response to your example of a drinking glass, I have always thought of facebook as a medium so it would be the ‘drinking glass’ not the ‘wine’ so to speak. However, Jazakallah Khair for bringing some of these issues to light, I had no idea about the aforementioned campaign and thought the users were posting on the basis of fitna. I have looked into it and inshAllah will inform others. Having said that, there are countless sisters who have used this as a means of dawah to others by using this as tool, and in many cases to sisters who were very far from deen and who otherwise, had no avenue to Islam, and I guess the arguement would still remain that the government allows 'freedom of speech' and some indivuduals are allowed to insult our religion but people still vote? Or the countless major news websites which allow islamaphobic comments to be posted under the 'freedom of speech'? Finally;

'We do realize that those who are cautious of Allah’s laws can keep their pages free from un-islamic content, however we cannot risk the ummah to fall into this fitna merely because some people can uphold the restrictions of Islam.'
Although this fatwa highly condemns the use of facebook, they have not said it's haraam, and from a technical point of veiw, I don't feel it is correct for us to slate the other numerous Ulama who (for reasons known to them) feel it appropriate to use such mediums.

Jazakumullah
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Old 05-09-2011, 09:21 PM   #32
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In response to your example of a drinking glass, I have always thought of facebook as a medium so it would be the ‘drinking glass’ not the ‘wine’ so to speak. However, Jazakallah Khair for bringing some of these issues to light, I had no idea about the aforementioned campaign and thought the users were posting on the basis of fitna. I have looked into it and inshAllah will inform others. Having said that, there are countless sisters who have used this as a means of dawah to others by using this as tool, and in many cases to sisters who were very far from deen and who otherwise, had no avenue to Islam, and I guess the arguement would still remain that the government allows 'freedom of speech' and some indivuduals are allowed to insult our religion but people still vote? Or the countless major news websites which allow islamaphobic comments to be posted under the 'freedom of speech'? Finally;

'We do realize that those who are cautious of Allah’s laws can keep their pages free from un-islamic content, however we cannot risk the ummah to fall into this fitna merely because some people can uphold the restrictions of Islam.'
Although this fatwa highly condemns the use of facebook, they have not said it's haraam, and from a technical point of veiw, I don't feel it is correct for us to slate the other numerous Ulama who (for reasons known to them) feel it appropriate to use such mediums.

Jazakumullah


Something doesn't have to be Haram for the Ulama to advise people to stay away from it. FACEBOOK is a vital cog in the social re-engineering machine to destroy the moral fabric of the society and it is a serious menace to Muslims (particularly in Muslim countries).

Ulama should clearly see the dangers in it. Just because a few people can have “picture-less” or “flirt-less” experience of FACEBOOK, doesn’t make it a Pro-Sunnah experience for the rest of the Ummah.

Your relaxed attitude (as an Alimah) in this matter is disconcerting to say the least, particularly when those behind this medium are complicit in dishonouring our Nabi

Either you don’t know what FACEBOOK is and what is stands for or you are being deliberately obtuse!

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Old 05-09-2011, 10:33 PM   #33
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Shaykh Sulaiman Moola mentioned in a talk about the principle of when the harm outweighs the benefit. The question, therefore, is do the harms outweigh the benefit?

Secondly, Maulana Saleem Dhorat mentions in a talk that Facebook must not be used, since we should turn our back on whoever dishonours the Prophet (SAW).

Suppose Facebook didn't dishonour Prophet (SAW); the question remains Facebook is a site that draws people in to waste their time and whatever wastes time and distances one from Allah can't be good.

I had a Facebook account, which is no longer used, yet mysteriously a young man like me is being enticed by emails in my hotmail stating that Sarah has invited me to view her profile.
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Old 05-09-2011, 10:47 PM   #34
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Shaykh Sulaiman Moola mentioned in a talk about the principle of when the harm outweighs the benefit. The question, therefore, is do the harms outweigh the benefit?

Secondly, Maulana Saleem Dhorat mentions in a talk that Facebook must not be used, since we should turn our back on whoever dishonours the Prophet (SAW).

Suppose Facebook didn't dishonour Prophet (SAW); the question remains Facebook is a site that draws people in to waste their time and whatever wastes time and distances one from Allah can't be good.
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No my dear brother, people find difficulty in going door to door for dawah so they want to use facebook so that they can left message on the wall "Islam Is the True Religion" . Do you find difficulty in doing this little bit job? Just joking brother.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:11 PM   #35
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We shod not, however, inadvertently slander the scholars that do use Facebook as they will have rationale for their stance. However, I go by what Maulana Saleem Dhorat and Shaykh Sulaiman say on this matter.
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:25 PM   #36
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I personally have been benefited a lot from Islamic posts in Facebook. But there are harms too. Modern Life is very complex.
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:26 AM   #37
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I personally have been benefited a lot from Islamic posts in Facebook. But there are harms too. Modern Life is very complex.

Its not too my dear its toooooooooooo
Well you can get more than what you get from facebook.
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:46 AM   #38
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Assalamu Alaikum

I agree facebook has many harms, but acording to my understanding facebook was the platform used by some users to disrespect our beloved Prophet Salalahu ALayhi Wasalam. In the sameway, people use youtube as a platform to disrespect Islam. So if we are criticizing the ulama who use facebook to promote Islam, then we should also criticize all of those organizations and Ulama who have videos and promotions on youttube. And why stop at youtube, we could go further as well.
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:49 AM   #39
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Its not too my dear its toooooooooooo
Well you can get more than what you get from facebook.


Hmmm yea you are right. Also i ve noticed regular use of Facebook promotes attention seeking behaviour.

But I still think some Ulema should be giving Dawah in Facebook, since there is a lot of Muslim youth there. Just like there are lots of Islamic lectures in youtube. Besides the Ulema will be more resistant to the bad affects.

Allah knows best.
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Old 05-10-2011, 04:24 AM   #40
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Something doesn't have to be Haram for the Ulama to advise people to stay away from it. FACEBOOK is a vital cog in the social re-engineering machine to destroy the moral fabric of the society and it is a serious menace to Muslims (particularly in Muslim countries).

Ulama should clearly see the dangers in it. Just because a few people can have “picture-less” or “flirt-less” experience of FACEBOOK, doesn’t make it a Pro-Sunnah experience for the rest of the Ummah.

Your relaxed attitude (as an Alimah) in this matter is disconcerting to say the least, particularly when those behind this medium are complicit in dishonouring our Nabi

Either you don’t know what FACEBOOK is and what is stands for or you are being deliberately obtuse!

Firstly I have nowhere stated that I am an 'Alimah' so please do not refer to me as such.
Secondly, as with many things there are differences of opinion on this matter, all I am trying to say is lets not be too critical of some Ulama, if you disagree with they way they do something that's fne but people don't need to be so vocal about it. We wonder why no one listens to the Ulama these days, maybe it's because we don't give them any respect. I beleive that if Ulama want to debate and disagree amongst each other it's fine for them to do it within their own circles as they are on a par. For us people to pick out what we percieve to be faults of the Ulama in every other thread somehow just doesn't sound right.

Oh and just to add another point, in the aftermath of the very insulting cartoons, a renowned Shaykh said that the muslims were so hurt (and rightly so), they were ready to stand up with rage at the defence of our beloved Nabi SallallahuAlaihiWasallam...but if we really really looked into the life of our Nabi SallallahuAlaihiWasallam, what happened when he went to Taif? Or when others ridiculed him? He still went out to propagate to those people, he still went and made dua for them, and he still ultimately asked for forgiveness at thier ignorance. Subhanallah what great insight, if we as an Ummah basically turned all that hurt and anger into positive energy we would bring people closer to the deen, anyways I am in no way condoning Facebook,all I am trying to show you, respected brother is that there are other opinions also and we should be mindful of what we say regarding the Ulama.

Jazakumullah
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