[mobiphones]

Well, lets decide first that Imam Malik ra said what you attributed to him or not? Kindly provide the name of the book and Sanad of that narration which you have attributed to Imam Malik. All you did was ' googling' and came up with this long list of books mentioned at the end of every pro-Tasawwuf article on net.

Here it is one more time I will put it in bolder fonts for you if youd like

Ali al-Qari, Sharh `Ayn al-`Ilm wa- Zayn al-Hilm (Cairo: Maktabat al-Thaqafa al-Diniyya, 1989) - theres is one book

Ahmad Zarruq, Qawa`id al-tasawwuf (Cairo, 1310) - another book

Ali al-`Adawi, Hashiyat al-`Adawi `ala Sharh Abi al-Hasan li-Risalat Ibn Abi Zayd al-Musammat Kifayat al- Talib al-Rabbani li-Risalat Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani fi Madhhab Malik (Beirut?: Dar Ihya' al-Kutub al-`Arabiyah, (n.d.) 2:195 - a third book

Ibn `Ajiba, Iqaz al-Himam fi Sharh al- Hikam (Cairo: Halabi, 1392/1972) p. 5-6. - 4 books references for you

[Buhoutsoupfap]

Here it is one more time I will put it in bolder fonts for you if youd like

Ali al-Qari, Sharh `Ayn al-`Ilm wa- Zayn al-Hilm (Cairo: Maktabat al-Thaqafa al-Diniyya, 1989) - theres is one book

Ahmad Zarruq, Qawa`id al-tasawwuf (Cairo, 1310) - another book

Ali al-`Adawi, Hashiyat al-`Adawi `ala Sharh Abi al-Hasan li-Risalat Ibn Abi Zayd al-Musammat Kifayat al- Talib al-Rabbani li-Risalat Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawani fi Madhhab Malik (Beirut?: Dar Ihya' al-Kutub al-`Arabiyah, (n.d.) 2:195 - a third book

Ibn `Ajiba, Iqaz al-Himam fi Sharh al- Hikam (Cairo: Halabi, 1392/1972) p. 5-6. - 4 books references for you

Is this the Sanad? Thats all you will find through ' googling'

[mobiphones]

Is this the Sanad? Thats all you will find through ' googling'

Thats is all found looking the book Ibn `Ajiba, Iqaz al-Himam fi Sharh al- Hikam

however, you use tablees iblees wich contains many fabricated narrations - wheres the sanad for your proofs?

Ill tell you what - you google your book and Ill google mine

[Buhoutsoupfap]

Thats is all found looking the book Ibn `Ajiba, Iqaz al-Himam fi Sharh al- Hikam

however, you use tablees iblees wich contains many fabricated narrations - wheres the sanad for your proofs?

Ill tell you what - you google your book and Ill google mine

Well brother , lets see how many days it takes for you to find the Sanad of the narration you have attributed to Imam Malik Ra.

[mobiphones]

Well brother , lets see how many days it takes for you to find the Sanad of the narration you have attributed to Imam Malik Ra.

Why do I need the sanad - Im not a scholar - I rely upon the scholars and I trust the authors of the book, I cant find the sanad with my limited resources - Im not going to google it - your beef id with the authors of the four books I cited. Furthermore, I havent seen anyone make any accusations against the books I cited - if you can bring some reputable scholars who dispute the authenticity of the narration - then I will gladly retract my post.

I like how you demand a sanad for a narration that nobody claims is fabricated - but you wont cite the sanad or strength of the quote from Tablees Iblees - which several scholars have said contains several fabrications

why is this?

[Buhoutsoupfap]

Why do I need the sanad - Im not a scholar - I rely upon the scholars and I trust the authors of the book, I cant find the sanad with my limited resources - Im not going to google it - your beef id with the authors of the four books I cited. Furthermore, I havent seen anyone make any accusations against the books I cited - if you can bring some reputable scholars who dispute the authenticity of the narration - then I will gladly retract my post.

I fail to understand your logic but anyone who goes through this thread will understand the fallacy of your argument. Why on earth will someone dispute the authenticity of a narration which does not exist? Has any Muhadith recorded this false narration you have attributed to Imam Malik Ra? You even don't know the name of the book in which this narration is mentioned.
Lets show some respect for the great scholar Imam Malik Ibn Anas ra and before attributing anything to him , just to satisfy our preconceived notions , research it a bit.

[mobiphones]

I fail to understand your logic but anyone who goes through this thread will understand the fallacy of your argument. Why on earth will someone dispute the authenticity of a narration which does not exist? Had any Muhadith recorded this false narration you have attributed to Imam Malik Ra? Lets show some respect for the great scholar , Imam Malik Ibn Ans ra and before attributing anything to him , just to satisfy our preconceived notions , research it a bit.

So these books dont exist at all? You want to beleive so bad that sufism is evil that you refuse to accept anything - honestly - if I brought you a sanad - would you accept it even?

[Buhoutsoupfap]

So these books dont exist at all? You want to beleive so bad that sufism is evil that you refuse to accept anything - honestly - if I brought you a sanad - would you accept it even?

Have you read these books or you picked their names from random sites in your futile efforts to find the Sanad of the narration?

[Buhoutsoupfap]

I think that now you are busy in ' Googling' the names of these books before you make any claims about having read them.

[anaisdannyxys]

Then We sent following their footsteps Our messengers and followed [them] with Jesus, the son of Mary, and gave him the Gospel. And We placed in the hearts of those who followed him compassion and mercy and monasticism, which they innovated; We did not prescribe it for them except [that they did so] seeking the approval of Allah . But they did not observe it with due observance. So We gave the ones who believed among them their reward, but many of them are defiantly disobedient.
QURAN 57:27

And they were not commanded except to worship Allah , [being] sincere to Him in religion, inclining to truth, and to establish prayer and to give zakah. And that is the correct religion. Quran 98:06

[pXss8cyx]

The answer to "Who introduced Sufism?" is:

UNKNOWN, they even differ on the origin of the word Sufi but it is apparent that these old practices have evolved through time.

[FoetAgerhot46]

So, I've seen some of you are debating around here. Then, the conclusion is?

[Endatrybeeddy]

That there will never be a conclusion.

[djmassk]

So, I've seen some of you are debating around here. Then, the conclusion is?

The conclusion is that road to paradise is not a walk in the park. The devil will find thousands of traps to keep you away from those illuminated men who are immersed in Divine love.

You should check thee following links where you will find how Sufism was transmitted from the Sahabah to Tabeen , then to Tabe-Tabeen and al last to the present day Sufi saints.

http://books.themajlis.net/node/449
http://sanctuaryofserenity.wordpress...power-of-zikr/

[Buhoutsoupfap]

So, I've seen some of you are debating around here. Then, the conclusion is?

The conclusion is that one should stick to Quran and Sunnah.One should keep away from all weird , proof-less , ill-defined and weird things which have been indoctrinated and injected in Islam.

[Endatrybeeddy]

The conclusion is that road to paradise is not a walk in the park. The devil will find thousands of traps to keep you away from those illuminated men who are immersed in Divine love.

You should check thee following links where you will find how Sufism was transmitted from the Sahabah to Tabeen , then to Tabe-Tabeen and al last to the present day Sufi saints.

http://books.themajlis.net/node/449
http://sanctuaryofserenity.wordpress...power-of-zikr/

The conclusion is that one should stick to Quran and Sunnah.One should keep away from all weird , proof-less , ill-defined and weird things which have been indoctrinated and injected in Islam.

Like I said, there won't be a conclusion. Not with everyone so set in their thinking that even if the truth shone bright before them, they would close their eyes and turn the other way so as not to see the light.

[VewCoorkPow]

Like I said, there won't be a conclusion. Not with everyone so set in their thinking that even if the truth shone bright before them, they would close their eyes and turn the other way so as not to see the light.

Dear Brothers & Sisters, Assalaamoalaikum

THIS IS THE CONCLUSION. ALHAMDULILLAH

Brotherly yours
farook