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AoA,
i know its weired Question but want to know i mean ishq e haqiqi
beside anybody know about fanaa fin nafs n fanaa fi allah

[Endatrybeeddy]

Best way to learn something is to learn from the experts. Similarly, learn to love by sticking around with those who know how to love. The love of Allah is lit from hearts that are already burning with His love.

[SodeSceriobia]

Following quote of Maulana jalaluddin Rumi (R A) answer your question Alhumdulillah !

"Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it."

[EbrsaRynleot]

AoA,
i kno its weired Q bt want to kno i mean ishq e haqiqi
beside anybody kno abt fanaa fin nafs n fanaa fi allah

[uC4F0NVL]

Shaykh,
Wallahi you sent me into a trance!
:jazaq:
Whose kalam is it?

[EbrsaRynleot]

Ashraf us Sawaneh Jild 1 I believe. I hope it answered the girls question.

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AoA,
i kno its weired Q bt want to kno i mean ishq e haqiqi
beside anybody kno abt fanaa fin nafs n fanaa fi allah

Bismillahi
Walaikum assalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu
Here is something taken from the bayan of Sheikh Maulana Abdus Sattar (hafizahullah) "Precious tips towards the love of Allah (subhanawata Ala)".
http://theheartopener.wordpress.com/...bhanawata-ala/
As you can understand urdu, you can hear the bayan here
http://www.fahmedeen.org/new/file-25...4-2011%29.html
Wassalam

[uC4F0NVL]

Ashraf us Sawaneh Jild 1 I believe. I hope it answered the girls question.

Listen to it here recited by the beautiful voice of Mufti Nur al Amin sahib db:

http://www.khanqah.com/audio/Noorul_Amin/Farsi.wma

This shaikh was so close to visiting Chicago, we literally just missed phone calls. Otherwise I would have definitely asked him to come and recite entire Kashkol e Majzub live in person.

Also discovered khanqah dot com!

[pkxlugbsbv]

what does it mean "agr tu haq pana chta he to her kisi se haq cahne wala na bn" can u explain it please
weather english or urdu does not matter
jazakallah

[pkxlugbsbv]

Ashraf us Sawaneh Jild 1 I believe. I hope it answered the girls question.

Listen to it here recited by the beautiful voice of Mufti Nur al Amin sahib db:

http://www.khanqah.com/audio/Noorul_Amin/Farsi.wma

This shaikh was so close to visiting Chicago, we literally just missed phone calls. Otherwise I would have definitely asked him to come and recite entire Kashkol e Majzub live in person.

jazakallah brother
the kalam touches heart but i dnt understand Farsi(sorry) if u or any body dont mind to translate it i will be very thankful

[pkxlugbsbv]

AoA
i want to ask one more thing that how is it possible one goes in such a high rank of love that he does not know about what is going around him
when i used to read novels in them told the journey about ishq e majazi(worldly love) to ishq e haqiqi(real love?) that means they learn how to love Aallah thru ishq e majazi (this is weird)
now a days i am reading ALamaat e muhabbat so it is making me confuse and hard to understand this word last night i read apassage in which
hazarat muhajjir makki r.a wrote a incident about one muhib e illah he was doing ibaadat of Allah and he saw a bird flying in a garden and it made a nest on near by tree in a garden he likes bird's voice so he thought to change his place to that tree So Allah said "tum ne uss parinde se uns hasil kia to hum ne tmhara aik darga ghata dia or tum wo kabhi kisi amal se hasil nhe krskte"( you get the love( dnt kno correct word for uns)from that bird so lowered your level and you cant get that level thru any amal this make me feel weired
i dont know wt i wrote these thought are keep comming in my mind

[EbrsaRynleot]

what does it mean "agr tu haq pana chta he to her kisi se haq cahne wala na bn" can u explain it please
weather english or urdu does not matter
jazakallah

He is saying if you wish to attain Haq, as how you spoke on it earlier you wanted to get Ishq e Haqiqi, then dont just go to some joe schmoe for it.

In everything we do we want to get the best quality, and desis naturally try to get the best quality for cheap price, everyone wants to get the best for their buck. When we seek out secular education we want to get to the top high school, get into the classes taught by the best teachers, then get into the top college we can get in, and take the best professors we can in those subjects. But in matters of deen we settle for 2nd class/3rd class? Why dont we want the best quality of asatidha or the best quality shaikh in deen for our islah and tarbiyat?

He is setting the stage for his next line.

[EbrsaRynleot]

AoA
i want to ask one more thing that how is it possible one goes in such a high rank of love that he does not know about what is going around him
when i used to read novels in them told the journey about ishq e majazi(worldly love) to ishq e haqiqi(real love?) that means they learn how to love Aallah thru ishq e majazi (this is weird)
now a days i am reading ALamaat e muhabbat so it is making me confuse and hard to understand this word last night i read apassage in which
hazarat muhajjir makki r.a wrote a incident about one muhib e illah he was doing ibaadat of Allah and he saw a bird flying in a garden and it made a nest on near by tree in a garden he likes bird's voice so he thought to change his place to that tree So Allah said "tum ne uss parinde se uns hasil kia to hum ne tmhara aik darga ghata dia or tum wo kabhi kisi amal se hasil nhe krskte"( you get the love( dnt kno correct word for uns)from that bird so lowered your level and you cant get that level thru any amal this make me feel weired
i dont know wt i wrote these thought are keep comming in my mind

The reason why I posted those few lines of poetry was to turn your attention that if you are truly now set on attaining ishq e Ilahi, ishq e Haqiqi, marifat e Haq, muhabbat e Haq, wilayat e Haq, then the first thing you must do is seek out a proper guide, seek out a shaikh e kamil. Through the shaikhs teaching and advising and duas eventually insha'Allah you will one day attain your objective and then all these things alamaat e muhabbat will open to you on their own. You will understand what is uns, why the person heard this voice say what it said, why his rank decreased or increased or why he felt how he felt etc. If you keep practicing and developing under the shaikh one day you will live all this yourself.

In tasawwuf there is not much you will gain from books reading on your own early on. Only after a certain time can you really benefit from literature you pick up and read on your own.

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[Quiniacab]

True love is for the sake of Allah and to love the things Allah loves. For that, one needs to study what Allah loves. The most beloved of Allah's creation is RasulUllah S.A.W., so therefore we should try to imitate the characteristics of the Prophet Muhammed S.A.W. so that we may draw nearer to Allah S.W.T.

[pkxlugbsbv]

what is the phenomena of love?i mean what is love exectly does it mean to sacrifice your own for your loved 1???
jazakallah

[Quiniacab]

The phenomenon of love is discussed in the Quran. Allah talks about His unconditional love towards His servants. There are many ayats on this. Is there something in particular you are interested in?

[EbrsaRynleot]

what is the phenomena of love?i mean what is love exectly does it mean to sacrifice your own for your loved 1???
jazakallah

Ok ok. Assuming you understand Urdu visit http://www.khanqah.org/

Go to that website and listen to as many bayaans as you can, anytime you can find to listen to them, as long as your fardh ibadat isnt disturbed.

[uC4F0NVL]

what is the phenomena of love?i mean what is love exectly does it mean to sacrifice your own for your loved 1???
jazakallah

Economist: A person who knows more about money than those who have it.

Sister,
Do you want to eat burfi or do you want to know what burfi is?

Get on your feet and start looking for a Shaikh.

And as far as the immediate query is concerned, Shaikh Abdul Qadir Jilani (RA) has said that in the state of love the lover is oblivious to beloved and is oblivious to himself. Got it? In case the answer is no then do not worry because it really takes time.

Wassalam

[gettoblaster]

Studies in neuroscience have involved chemicals that are present in the brain and might be involved when people experience love. These chemicals include: nerve growth factor, testosterone, estrogen, dopamine, norepinephrine, serotonin, oxytocin, and vasopressin. Dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin are more commonly found during the attraction phase of a relationship. Oxytocin and vasopressin seemed to be more closely linked to long term bonding and relationships characterized by strong attachment
Chemically, the serotonin effects of being infatuated have a similar chemical appearance to obsessive-compulsive disorder; which could explain why people experiencing infatuation cannot think of anyone else. For this reason some[who?] assert that taking SSRIs and other antidepressants impede one's ability to fall in love In 2005, Italian scientists at Pavia University found that a protein molecule known as the nerve growth factor (NGF) has high levels when people first fall in love, but these return to previous levels after one year. Specifically, four neurotrophin levels (NGF, BDNF, NT-3, and NT-4) of 58 subjects who had recently fallen in love were compared with levels in two control groups who were either single or already engaged in a long-term relationship. The results showed that NGF levels were significantly higher in the subjects in love than as compared to either of the control groups

A General Theory of Love, three professors of psychiatry from UCSF provide an overview of the scientific theories and findings relating to the role of the limbic system in love, attachment and social bonding. They advance the hypothesis that our nervous systems are not self-contained, but rather demonstrably attuned to those around us and those with whom we are most close. This empathy, which they call limbic resonance, is a capacity which we share, along with the anatomical characteristics of the limbic areas of the brain, with all other mammals.
Divine love is something different.the implantation of divine love is by repetition,either repeating the name of the supreme being or repeatedly thinking about His attributes. Hadeeth says"Those who love someone or some thing remember him often".So the common basis of Divine love is Zikr,usually under guidance of a shaikh.First it is rememberence of divine name, then remembering the supreme being through his name and finally remembering the "Being" without name.In later stages the one who is remembering and the one who is being remembered apparently(not actually) loose their separate identity_leading to Fana.