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Old 05-02-2011, 08:45 PM   #1
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problem - a daughter of a uk british imam who is the voice Islam in uk. father teaches islam to brothers sisters children. daughter is dating a non-muslim man in dubai. if person from very religious family not follow Islam i worry what happening to our children, where our muslim sisters going? is a duty in Islam to guide? Is relationship between muslim woman and non-muslim man harram?
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:29 PM   #2
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i know of a daughter, of a man who is voice of Islam to people in uk. She works in Dubai and is dating a non-muslim man in dubai far from her family. Is relationship between muslim woman and non-muslim man harram?i need know my duty before i guide her in the right path of Allah or let her continue.
Dating between a Muslim Male and Muslim Female is just as Haram as dating a non Muslim.
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:38 PM   #3
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i know a daughter of a man who is voice of Islamic faith to people in uk. She works in Dubai and is dating a non-muslim man in dubai far from her family. Isnt relationship between muslim woman and non-muslim man harram?? i am lost. i dnt know where our muslim women are going or what example they give without thinking of religion or elders.
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:46 PM   #4
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i know a daughter of a man who is voice of Islamic faith to people in uk. She works in Dubai and is dating a non-muslim man in dubai far from her family. Isnt relationship between muslim woman and non-muslim man harram?? i am lost. i dnt know where our muslim women are going or what example they give without thinking of religion or elders.
السلام عليكم,

Brother, aren't we all sinners? Some of us are stuck in one sin, some in the other. If we are fortunate enough that Allah in his infinite mercy has covered up our sins from the public eye we shouldn't feel superior, just make a lot of shukr that he covered us up and make plenty of du'aa for that sister and all other young brothers and sisters in similar situations.
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:49 PM   #5
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السلام عليكم,

Brother, aren't we all sinners? Some of us are stuck in one sin, some in the other. If we are fortunate enough that Allah in his infinite mercy has covered up our sins from the public eye we shouldn't feel superior, just make a lot of shukr that he covered us up and make plenty of du'aa for that sister and all other young brothers and sisters in similar situations.

Plus deja vu all over again and again.
Wassalam
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:48 AM   #6
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As salam u Alaikum
Dating is not allowed in Islam and the women who begin their relations with that non muslim persons ("which not have a Book from Allah(GOD)".) This relation is illegal in Islam and Allah(GOD) prohibit us from dating.
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:59 AM   #7
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As long as a Wali is present (father/brother/uncle/male relative who cannot marry her), you can go on a "halal date." You can hang out to get to know who she is as a person. Islam just does not let you blindly marry someone in hopes of finding out if they are a good Muslim or not.
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Old 05-03-2011, 02:01 AM   #8
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Oh, but as far as a Non Muslim man and a muslim lady, it is haram unless he takes his Shahada. There is nothing wrong with that either. Prophet Muhammed S.A.W. said that (and I am closely paraphrasing) that marriage is best for two people in love. So if this person is in love with you, put them through the test to learn the deen and see if it changes his life in a way or enhances it.
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Old 05-03-2011, 02:09 AM   #9
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i know of a daughter, of a man who is voice of Islam to people in uk. She works in Dubai and is dating a non-muslim man in dubai far from her family. Is relationship between muslim woman and non-muslim man harram?i need know my duty before i guide her in the right path of Allah or let her continue.
One time when my shaikh was in Darul Ifta his ustad passed a question on to him. The question was, "The wife of the imam of our masjid goes about the city without any pardah, what should we do?" So my shaikh gave the answer, his teacher said no, you didnt understand the question. So again my shaikh looked over the question and gave his answer. His ustad again said no, this is not the answer, you didnt understand the question. My shaikh asked, "What is the question?" His ustad said, "The question is, we don't like our imam, how can we get rid of him?"
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:00 PM   #10
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So many replies and yet not a single answer..... has anyone even read the question, if i may ask... the sister is asking wether is it is allowed for a muslim woman to be with a non-muslim man...

Leaving the issue of 'dating' aside, it is common knowledge that a muslim woman may NOT have any relation with a kaffir!! A muslim man can have a relation with a woman from Ahlul-kitab, but for a muslim woman this is haram.
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:31 PM   #11
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i know of a daughter, of a man who is voice of Islam to people in uk. She works in Dubai and is dating a non-muslim man in dubai far from her family. Is relationship between muslim woman and non-muslim man harram?i need know my duty before i guide her in the right path of Allah or let her continue.

That you would need to ask such a question shows just how low our society has sunk. It is absolutely haraam.
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:54 PM   #12
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No it's not permissible for a Muslim woman to be with a non Muslim man.
I hope this is the answers your question.
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:57 PM   #13
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Bismillah
The question has been answered and it is a big NO.
no brother, the question was not answered. everyone was ignoring the POINT of the question (muslim woman being with a non-muslim man) and were instead dwelling into the discussion of wether DATING is halal or not.... fortunately, NOW the question has been answered.

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Old 05-03-2011, 03:11 PM   #14
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The OP himself knows the answer about dating being permissible or not - that is not his question. He is saying it in context of the "voice of Islam" father of the girl.
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:05 AM   #15
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thank u brothers and sisters. it is harram but we see many time people bad actions and shocked day by day and they not see what they do wrong.
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Old 05-04-2011, 12:08 AM   #16
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Oh, but as far as a Non Muslim man and a muslim lady, it is haram unless he takes his Shahada. There is nothing wrong with that either. Prophet Muhammed S.A.W. said that (and I am closely paraphrasing) that marriage is best for two people in love. So if this person is in love with you, put them through the test to learn the deen and see if it changes his life in a way or enhances it.
meaning if non-muslim man convert then it is allowed to marry muslim girl?
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Old 05-04-2011, 01:17 AM   #17
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many muslim girls are force at times bad treated to leave when relationship with non-muslim man because harram and i find daughter of an imam in relationship with non-muslim.

i ask -what happening to this world? y so different? i feel sad.
Is islam duty for a person talk to child?
if non-muslim man converts to islam can marry the daughter? is allowed now?

Allah's grace.
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Old 05-04-2011, 01:24 AM   #18
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many muslim girls are force at times bad treated to leave when relationship with non-muslim man because harram and i find daughter of an imam in relationship with non-muslim.

i ask -what happening to this world? y so different? i feel sad.
Is islam duty for a person talk to child?
if non-muslim man converts to islam can marry the daughter? is allowed now?

Allah's grace.


brother have you actually seen with your eyes this girl committing the act you've mentioned?

have you then approached her directly and advised her to stop this rather than disclose her sins to the world and her father?

to conclude, other posters have answered your question fully yet you still persist in this line of questioning? are you obsessed with the girl? you want to marry her?
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:54 AM   #19
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Akhi, it depends on your definition of love. Loving someone for the sake of Allah is different from a lustful love. Also, I am not becoming a proponent of this "convert to marry me" scenario, but I am saying that there is nothing against this and probably recommended if that person wishes to avoid sin. If it is haram, please provide one hadith against this.

As far as that hadith:

The Holy Prophet {SallAllahu Alayhi Wa Sallam} said: “There is nothing better for two who love one another than marriage” (Saheeh al-Jaami’, no 5200)

And this has been certified Sahih.
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Old 05-04-2011, 09:55 PM   #20
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brother have you actually seen with your eyes this girl committing the act you've mentioned?

have you then approached her directly and advised her to stop this rather than disclose her sins to the world and her father?

to conclude, other posters have answered your question fully yet you still persist in this line of questioning? are you obsessed with the girl? you want to marry her?
Brother it is haram relationship in islam. I alwaz look up to n respect father as person who put u in right way of religion. i felt shocked that daughter did not have basic islam values in her. i ask is being with a non-muslim over above ur elders and religion?? does grow up in west country some muslim woman lose religion and selfish. if bein in a house where islam values so strong but person can be with non-muslim so easy i feel lost how some muslims women take wrong path? i worry n lost that is why i ask people. Give advice.

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