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04-25-2011, 11:49 AM
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 regardin -tabligh-urdu-fight
Assalamu alikum
I have three questions regardin tablighi brothers 1) thy aim to unite the people or form seperate jamath,because once i went to jod(bayaan for local shatis) with out wearin cap i sometimes dont wear cap because my head is lil big ,so normal cap dont fit ,i usually hav cap which i buyspecifically fit to my head ,on that day i forget to take,,one tablighi elder has asked my friend is he belong to another jamath. 2)regarding fighting tablighi brothers if i say why you are doing other than said by moulanas of delhi markaz they get angry on me and give fatwa your are not fit for tabligh,like I asked brother you put your profile as if your are deeply involved in tabligh but why u add girls and give dawath tothem as it is not said in tabligh,he scolded me and one tablighi guy put wrong translation of hadths when i pinpointed it and asked him to check with ulemas he scolded me and there is tablighi from german initially one tablighi guy frnd of him said me to add him and he asked me to tak bad of tabligh work to him and i didso to know his response ,but this two guys joined hand and gave fatwa you are not fit for tabligh and even if i say assalamu aikum to them they wont reply ,is this tabligh ulemas says not to reply to salam if anyone talks bad of tabligh,still im a muslim 3)s urdu official language of tabligh ,,there is hadiths f nearest meanin if three persons are there two should not talk in secret (language unknown to third),but whenever i go with tabligh brothers they talk in urdu ad they talk bad of tamil muslims and ask me learn urdu as it is necessary for dawath,in which hadiths it has been said to learn urdu for dawath or did ever moulana ilyas sahib to moulana saad sahib has mentioned to learn urdu? |
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04-25-2011, 12:28 PM
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Brother,
Please do not take to heart if you see or hear anything from brothers whether they are involved in Tablighee efforts or not that are contrary to the guidelines/usool highlighted by eleders in Nizamuddin . You will come across these things on daily basis so how many of their actions or remarks you will fight or take to heart? Sometimes our own action may also be disliked by others. This effort is for our own Islah and with that aim you will never be defeated by any element, specially Shaitan and Nafs. We have long way to go with little means i.e. good deeds. How can we then allow ourselved these distractions! Brother, I'll request you to be patient. Please make dua for me as I find myself terribly deficient in all the traits we should acquire. |
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04-25-2011, 12:50 PM
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 Like all individuals, and efforts, you will find faults in brothers who take part in this effort. These errors should be corrected with hikmah. These mistakes can become bothersome. However, that shouldn't stop one from benefitting from the effort. It's said that - that which can not be acquired fully shouldn't be left altogether either. So inshaAllaah we try our best, and bear the various injustices with patience, and try to benefit ourselves as much as possible and also benefit others. And Allaah knows best.
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04-25-2011, 10:09 PM
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there are very few tablighi sathis in this zamana......even in tabligh itself. |
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04-25-2011, 10:29 PM
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but whenever i go with tabligh brothers they talk in urdu ad they talk bad of tamil muslims and ask me learn urdu as it is necessary for dawath,in which hadiths it has been said to learn urdu for dawath or did ever moulana ilyas sahib to moulana saad sahib has mentioned to learn urdu? what about asking them who says this?-which language did prophet(Sw) speak? - which language should be used while talking with obama or the butcher near london street? |
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04-26-2011, 02:21 AM
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04-26-2011, 02:27 AM
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04-26-2011, 03:02 AM
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that what im also asking bro -why they propogate urdu |
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04-26-2011, 06:38 AM
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This is what happened when a person was prejudiced towards a language (whether it be Urdu, Arabic or otherwise) as explained to us by Maulana Sa'd in Nizamuddin Markaz. The Incident Between Ibn Mataatiyyah and Hadhrat Mu'aadh Radhiyallah 'anhu and the Lecture that Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam Delivered in this Regard Hadhrat Abu Salamah bin Abdur Rahmaan reports that Qais bin Mataatiyyah once came to a gathering that included Hadhrat Salmaan Faarsi, Hadhrat Suhayb Roomi and Hadhrat Bilaal Habshi Radhiyallahu 'anhum He remarked, "Here (in the gathering) are the Aws and Khazraj tribes who have stood up to assist that man (Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam) (this I can understand because they are Arab and people of standing). However, what is the matter with these other people (these poor non-Arabs who have no social standing? Of what use are they)?" Hadhrat Mu'aadh Radhiyallahu 'anhu stood up and and grabbing Ibn Mataatiyyah by the collar, brought him to Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam. When Hadhrat Mu'aadh reported the statement, Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam stood up in anger and pulling his shawl along, he entered the Masjid. The announcement "Gather for Salaah" was made (to assemble the people) and after duly praising Allaah, Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam said, "O people! Verily your Rabb is but One Rabb, your father (Aadam 'Alayhis salaam) is but one father and your Deen is but one Deen. Take note that Arabic is neither your father nor your mother. It is merely a language and whoever speaks Arabic is therefore Arab." Still holding on to the collar of Ibn Mataatiyyah, Hadhrat Mu'aadh Radhiyallah 'anhu asked, "O Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam! What is your instruction concerning this Munaafiq?" "Leave him to the Fire of Jahannam!" replied Rasulullah Sallallahu 'alaihi wa sallam. Ibn Mataatiyyah was therefore amongst those who left the fold of Islaam was killed in this condition. (Ibn Asaakir, as quoted in Kanzul Ummal (Vol.7 pg.46) Excerpt from Hayatus Sahabah 2nd Vol.) |
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04-27-2011, 11:08 PM
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so if urdu ppl r tablighi say me "urdu nahi malum app ka musalman",,,,,,,
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04-27-2011, 11:53 PM
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so if urdu ppl r tablighi say me "urdu nahi malum app ka musalman",,,,,,,  and therefore against the Pleasure of Allah  . Tell them that and be on your way because your road is clear. |
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04-28-2011, 07:06 AM
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AA
This is upsetting but after all they are humans, so not perfect. Hence forgive them for the sake of Allah and keep doing the effort for the sake of Allah. This is how Shaitan creeps in and create hatred between people. Anyway I use to have same complaints to TJ brothers so one elder advised me and related an incident to me a while back. Will try to explain to best of my memory. Probably in Nizamudin Delhi, while 4month joor. An individual who spent 4m complained to Maulana Ahmed Laat Sab about other 4m brothers. Molana requested to wait and said that complaint will be heard once the bian is over. He again interrupted after few minutes. So molana sahib stop and said . 1-All attendees who have spent 1 year or 4 months please stand up. Almost everyone stood up. 2- Then he said, out of these, who spend 40 days every year regularly remain standing, rest of the people sit down. Many people sat down. 3- Then he said out of these who are standing, those who spend 2.5 hours daily tarteeb remain standing and others sit down. Only few people were left standing. Then molana sahib said, these are the people who are doing the effort as instructed by us. If you have complaint against any of these standing ones, we are ready to compensate. The others are not doing the effort the way they are asked to do, so we are not responsible for their actions. Although doing effort of deen is responsibility of every Muslim but these days if any one spend only three days he considers himself as the best tablighee and people also thing that he is an angle not human. Again I request you to forgive them for the sake of Allah and keep doing the effort for the sake of Allah. WS |
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