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Old 04-23-2011, 11:02 PM   #1
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Salamu alaikum,

If a woman marries a brand new revert to Islam and/or her father just reverted to Islam and neither of these men know how to pray yet, should she lead them in prayer if they cannot go to pray with other men or at the masjid (if maybe they are hours away from the nearest one or something)? If she should lead them, how exactly should she do it?

Jazakallah khair
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Old 04-23-2011, 11:57 PM   #2
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no sister she cannot lead them. basically if they prayed behind her, their salat will be invalid. What is best that she shows them how to pray. and then they pray 1 man behind the other man. In order to address the issue of new muslims who may not know how to pray.

you should look up the bear minimum fard and wajibat of salat so they can offer that. I will try to post something from the hanafi madhab later on it.

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Old 04-24-2011, 12:14 AM   #3
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Salamu alaikum,

If a woman marries a brand new revert to Islam and/or her father just reverted to Islam and neither of these men know how to pray yet, should she lead them in prayer if they cannot go to pray with other men or at the masjid (if maybe they are hours away from the nearest one or something)? If she should lead them, how exactly should she do it?

Jazakallah khair
Wa alaykum salam

Imam Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said that 'if a woman leads a man or men in a congregational prayer, the prayer of the men is invalid. As for her prayer, and the prayer of the women praying with her, it is sound. While in a household, if there are no qualified men to lead a prayer it is the one exception for women to lead men in prayers

Sunan Abu Dawud, Volume 1, book 2, hadith number 592:
Umm Waraqah, the daughter of Abdullah bin al-Harith: "the Messenger of Allah (SAW) used to visit her at her house. He appointed a mu'adhin to call adhan for her and he commanded her to lead the inmates of her house in prayer." Abdurrahman said, "I saw that her mu'adhin was an old man."

some nowaday Islamic scholars such as Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, consider it allowed for a knowledgeable woman to lead mixed prayers within her own houshold (note this does not mean guests, just the family members inside the house), using the Umm Waraqah hadith mentioned above as he considers this to largely cancel out the danger of the men being aroused by her presence, because she is their family.

however some scholars are more lenient than others in this issue. but all of the Sunni scholars and schools are agreed that a woman leading prayer away of her house is definitely not allowed, unless it is in an all-women area.

if you are unsure of leading them, then pray on your own and let them also pray on their own. the sooner they learn how to pray the better, because then inshaallah they can start leading the family prayer.

and Allah knows best.
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Old 04-24-2011, 12:36 AM   #4
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Jazakallah both of you for your replies, but you brothers have given me two conflicting answers. However, brother EmGee909, I find your answer more convincing since you provide proof from hadith. Brother fnaeem, I would rather you please provide proof of your statement from sahih hadith instead of writing from your madhab, or in addition to positions from your madhab if possible iA.

I am not talking about a woman leading prayer outside of her house I know that is not permissable. I am talking about a woman, alone in her house with her husband, I'm asking if it is better if she could offer a complete salat with her husband, instead of her husband not knowing how to pray and attempting to lead her without the knowledge to do so? And he cant delay the prayer to go and memorize a few words to say, so its not really answering the question if you suggest he learn to say "Subhanah rabee yal altheem" or something and then come and lead her with that. I hope that clarified it, jazakallah khairun for your previous answers and any further answers

Wa salam
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Old 04-24-2011, 01:40 AM   #5
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Sister;

I've posted a similar question in the past and it was the almost unanimous response that it was better to teach the brother(s) outside of salat and allow them to lead during. As it's better to stay away from something doubtful and salat is one of the most(if not THE most) important acts we must perform as Muslims.

Here's the link: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ht=#post498625
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Old 04-24-2011, 02:01 AM   #6
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Yeap, the answers are in the above link .
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