[wJswn5l3]

The question is mentioned above. Can anyone tell me the status of 'Aql in Islam?

[gennickhif]

The question is mentioned above. Can anyone tell me the status of 'Aql in Islam?

aql - differentiates between beneficial and harmful.

shahwath - tries to acquire what is beneficial

ghadhab - repells harmful

[drgshmcm]

aql - differentiates between beneficial and harmful.

shahwath - tries to acquire what is beneficial

ghadhab - repells harmful

There was something similar my professor sahab had said regarding Khuvvat-e-aql, khuvvat-e-ghadab and Khuvvat-e-shahwat. And that balance in these lead to 'adl, Shujaa'ah and one more sifat which I am forgetting... shaykh Fusus Sabah can elaborate better.

Wasalam

[virtuah]

Very simple. 'Aql is subservient to Naql.

[gennickhif]

There was something similar my professor sahab had said regarding Khuvvat-e-aql, khuvvat-e-ghadab and Khuvvat-e-shahwat. And that balance in these lead to 'adl, Shujaa'ah and one more sifat which I am forgetting... shaykh Fusus Sabah can elaborate better.

Wasalam

Iffath.

[cafeviahe]

Read this book by Mawlana Shabir Ahmad Usmani called al-aql wa an-naql:

http://www.archive.org/details/al-aqal-wan-naqal

Very nice book.

[wJswn5l3]

Read this book by Mawlana Shabir Ahmad Usmani called al-aql wa an-naql:

http://www.archive.org/details/al-aqal-wan-naqal

Very nice book.

Okay, I just printed it out and will try to read it this week. I hope it will calm some of my worries, but I fear that I'll have to come to the conclusion that I'm too anti-'aqli.

[shodulsilfeli]

Okay, I just printed it out and will try to read it this week. I hope it will calm some of my worries, but I fear that I'll have to come to the conclusion that I'm too anti-'aqli.

Salamu aleikum

I'm not sure what you mean by aql (is it logic (deduction), is it science (induction) or is it something else) but this text is short and excellent (about 6 pages) and can well be applied on both. I hope it will be of some benefit.

http://iftikharzaman.webs.com/100/quran_idx.html (click Ghazali on the left hand side)

[wJswn5l3]

I mean 'aql in the sense of rationality, logic and intellect - primarily as a source of guidance.

[shodulsilfeli]

I mean 'aql in the sense of rationality, logic and intellect - primarily as a source of guidance.

Then thats a good article to read.

[exschke]

I'd say (and I believe our Mufti Yusuf mentioned this somewhere as well, and that that this is the general principle amongst Maturidiyyah and Ashariyyah) that Naql and Aql are never in conflict, and that any seeming conflict is due to a flawed sense of one of the two, rather than any real contradiction between them existing.

[gennickhif]

Hazrat Shaikh Fariduddin Shakr Ganj ra had met 600 awliyah. He asked all 600, "Who is the aqalmand (intelligent) person?" All 600 unanimously said, "The aqalmand is he who has gnosis of his Aqa."

[wJswn5l3]

My reason for asking is the obsession about 'Aql and 'aqli dala'il amongst certain brothers, for example members of HT.

[exschke]

My reason for asking is the obsession about 'Aql and 'aqli dala'il amongst certain brothers, for example members of HT.

I'm pretty sure HT is influenced by the Mu`tazila to some extent, so that may explain why they are obsessed with aql.

[Kamepherype]

But Aql shouldn't be thrown out the window... it is very useful after all. Applying it simply can demolish some outright falsehoods such as reincarnation.

[wJswn5l3]

Slogans like "The intellect is what sets the human apart from the animals and other creations" and "Our intellects let us distinguish between falsehood and righteousness" seem akward to me. Because doesn't Allah ta'ala say that he has installed Fujur and Taqwa in our hearts? Doesn't that mean that primarily the voice from our heart (which they simply brand as emotions) guides us to righteousness according to the level of our Taqwa?

I read in the introduction to Ma'ariful Qur'an by Mufti Muhammad Taqi Uthmani [db], that the human has three sources of knowledge/guidance: 1. Senses, 2. Mind & 3. Wahi. And he explained beautifully how each of the first two has his boundaries (and the following starts from where the previous ended). So there are so many things we wouldn't know of without revealation, no matter how much we would've used our intellect.

If a sound mind was enough to practise upon Islam, then why did Rasulullah mention the sound heart as a condition for the correct use of the body? Then they don't regard anyone's Iman to be complete until he is rationally convinced by the truthfulness of Islam. I mentioned a story of a Sahabi who accepted Islam on the basis of a dream, but then they reply that it was his mind which "processed the data" received in the dream. But then why does Allah ta'ala say: "Whoever Allah wishes to guide, He opens his heart to Islam." [6:125] if you can not be a Muslim based on what they call "emotions"?

Maybe better words to put my confusion in would be: Does the naql (revealation) knock on the door of our mind or on the door of our heart?

[exschke]

Slogans like "The intellect is what sets the human apart from the animals and other creations" and "Our intellects let us distinguish between falsehood and righteousness" seem akward to me. Because doesn't Allah ta'ala say that he has installed Fujur and Taqwa in our hearts? Doesn't that mean that primarily the voice from our heart (which they simply brand as emotions) guides us to righteousness according to the level of our Taqwa?

I read in the introduction to Ma'ariful Qur'an by Mufti Muhammad Taqi Uthmani [db], that the human has three sources of knowledge/guidance: 1. Senses, 2. Mind & 3. Wahi. And he explained beautifully how each of the first two has his boundaries (and the following starts from where the previous ended). So there are so many things we wouldn't know of without revealation, no matter how much we would've used our intellect.

If a sound mind was enough to practise upon Islam, then why did Rasulullah mention the sound heart as a condition for the correct use of the body? Then they don't regard anyone's Iman to be complete until he is rationally convinced by the truthfulness of Islam. I mentioned a story of a Sahabi who accepted Islam on the basis of a dream, but then they reply that it was his mind which "processed the data" received in the dream. But then why does Allah ta'ala say: "Whoever Allah wishes to guide, He opens his heart to Islam." [6:125] if you can not be a Muslim based on what they call "emotions"?

Maybe better words to put my confusion in would be: Does the naql (revealation) knock on the door of our mind or on the door of our heart?

Wouldn't it be different for different people?

[N95FzmMw]

Slogans like "The intellect is what sets the human apart from the animals and other creations" and "Our intellects let us distinguish between falsehood and righteousness" seem akward to me. Because doesn't Allah ta'ala say that he has installed Fujur and Taqwa in our hearts? Doesn't that mean that primarily the voice from our heart (which they simply brand as emotions) guides us to righteousness according to the level of our Taqwa?

I read in the introduction to Ma'ariful Qur'an by Mufti Muhammad Taqi Uthmani [db], that the human has three sources of knowledge/guidance: 1. Senses, 2. Mind & 3. Wahi. And he explained beautifully how each of the first two has his boundaries (and the following starts from where the previous ended). So there are so many things we wouldn't know of without revealation, no matter how much we would've used our intellect.

If a sound mind was enough to practise upon Islam, then why did Rasulullah mention the sound heart as a condition for the correct use of the body? Then they don't regard anyone's Iman to be complete until he is rationally convinced by the truthfulness of Islam. I mentioned a story of a Sahabi who accepted Islam on the basis of a dream, but then they reply that it was his mind which "processed the data" received in the dream. But then why does Allah ta'ala say: "Whoever Allah wishes to guide, He opens his heart to Islam." [6:125] if you can not be a Muslim based on what they call "emotions"?

Maybe better words to put my confusion in would be: Does the naql (revealation) knock on the door of our mind or on the door of our heart?

Brother, naql addresses both mind and heart.
Why are you resistant to emphasis on the aql?
Is it because you don't like HT?

Subhanna Allah, one needs only read some of the threads started on sunniforum to see that our Ummah is lagging immensely in comprehending our aql and developing it in accordance with the Deen. Moreover, one of our Ummah's biggest failings which has led to our decline is the inability to understand thought and aql as it pertains to reality. Are not Muslim countries dominated by secular regimes that cater to manmade thoughts that are continually dominating the Muslim world? and that the Muslim masses are largely unable to defend and counter against these forces within our lands, including India?

Do you believe that there is an Islamic way of thinking?
Do you believe it to be superior to the scientific method?
Or do you believe the scientific method to be the superior method of thinking?

[wJswn5l3]

I'm just a simple Muslim trying to understand this issue in the light of Islamic guidance. That's why I'm ready to accept any deficiencies in my understanding and that's why I'm reading the posted book.