[skiboyx]

I understand that there are people here who don't believe that humans have the capacity of free will, but for those who do; how can one explain the existence of free will while God is Omniscient and had always known what choices we humans were to make?

Is it possible to do anything other than what God has foreseen?

If the answer is yes then that negates the infallibility of God.
If the answer is no then that negates the free will of man as one is necessarily incapable of choosing other than what God has the Foreknowledge of.

Thanks for your time.

[MrsGoo]

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The question is really not addressed to me and perhaps neither to most of the members here, but what we can say is this:

What the human being has is "created free will", where this means that in his heart and mind there is no sense that he is being forced to do something, since Allah has not created the feeling of compulsion in his heart and mind for that action; instead Allah creates thoughts in the person's mind that do not make him feel compelled, but give him the apparent sense of making choices from his own accord... sometimes though this compulsion is created in the person's heart and mind for some actions, such as when one shivers due to extreme cold since such a thing is something forced upon his body, and his mind knows that it has no real control over it.

[Pyuvjzwf]

Hello,


Well, I'll try to answer your question, in what I think. And that might not be true or correct. So forgive me for any misunderstanding.
This is how I see it:

First of all. Is knowledge infinite, does it have a limit?
I myself think it's infinite, knowledge does not have a limit. We humans are limited.
But we can't determine where our limit is, the limit of our understanding of the world.

Nonetheless, we can try to give some sort of answer with our limited understanding.
I think freewill is our intention. In Islam the intention is important and not the consequention.
I guess there are certain levels of intention, which depends on the context in which a human being is placed.
Our intention to do something is the core of our freewill. The result (consequention) is something God decides about.

Free-will and determinism can go in combination. Because a deterministic view gives us the opportunity to evade 'something' with our intention.
If I throw a ball with paint at you, the deterministic view will give you the opportunity to calculate the orbit of this ball. Your free-will will then help you to evade it.

An idea about this is time. God for example is not limited to time, time itself is a perception.
An object that moves from A to B with a certain speed, takes time. We human beings need this concept of time, to understand the world.

So God sees the future and the past at the same time. God does not 'foresee', that would mean that He is limited to time.
I understand it's a difficult topic.

[skiboyx]

Thanks for the above posts.

An idea about this is time. God for example is not limited to time, time itself is a perception.
An object that moves from A to B with a certain speed, takes time. We human beings need this concept of time, to understand the world.

So God sees the future and the past at the same time. God does not 'foresee', that would mean that He is limited to time.
I understand it's a difficult topic.

This is precisely how I see it, thanks a lot for your reply.

[Pyuvjzwf]

You're welcome my friend.

I'd recommend you to read some books of Dr. Jeffrey Lang.
He's a professor of mathematics who wrote a bit about this topic in one of his books.
Forgive me for my curiousity. But what do you see as the truth?