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Old 04-16-2011, 12:07 AM   #1
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ASSALAM O ALAIKUM : A moulana was debating on kissing thumb after listening the name of Prophet saww. He said that it is written in fatawa Shami (i guess this was the name) that Hadhrat Abubakr RA did this when he heard Muhammad SAWW's name during adhan IN PRESENCE OF PROPHET SAWW.

If it is really the case then why it is called bada't by deoband ulama???

JAZAKALLAH
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Old 04-16-2011, 12:17 AM   #2
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Are they talking about this Hadith?

Imam Dailmi quotes this hadith of Abu Bakr Siddiq (Radi allahu anhu), "When Abu Bakr Siddiq (Radhiallahu Taala Anhu) heard the Muazzin say he read and kissed the segmented part of the fingers of Shahadah from the inside and placed them on his eyes. Upon this the Beloved Prophet of Allah said,"Whoever does like my friend has done, for him my intercession (Shafa'ah) will become halal"

If yes then give it a read http://www.muftisays.com/qa/question...-in-azaan.html
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Old 04-16-2011, 12:19 AM   #3
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ASSALAM O ALAIKUM : A moulana was debating on kissing thumb after listening the name of Prophet saww. He said that it is written in fatawa Shami (i guess this was the name) that Hadhrat Abubakr RA did this when he heard Muhammad SAWW's name during adhan IN PRESENCE OF PROPHET SAWW.

If it is really the case then why it is called bada't by deoband ulama???

JAZAKALLAH


Please read through these

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...s-during-athan!

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...humbs.../page5
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Old 04-16-2011, 12:20 AM   #4
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As far as I know Kissing thumb after listening the name of Prophet saw is bidah.
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Old 04-16-2011, 02:56 AM   #5
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JAZAKALLAH, Brother. Can u plz tell me about allama Shami. Was he barelvi?
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Old 04-16-2011, 03:01 AM   #6
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JAZAKALLAH, Brother. Can u plz tell me about allama Shami. Was he barelvi?
No. He was neither Barelwi nor Deobandi.
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Old 04-16-2011, 03:32 PM   #7
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http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/kthumb1.htm
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Old 04-16-2011, 05:19 PM   #8
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Kissing the thumbs upon hearing the name of Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] has no basis in Shari?ah. To carry out such an act as a Sunnah is bid?ah and sin.

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

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Old 04-16-2011, 07:47 PM   #9
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Bismillah
Did Mufti Ebrahim Desai actually said that. All i could find from the askimam website is that they could not establish the act being done on regular basis as carried out by our berlwi brothers to be a mutahab. There seems to be question with regards to the authencity. To label it as clear biddah seems odd here.

Allahualam
Again generalizing your personal assumption without looking into the source?

"Respect for Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] dictates emulating his teachings. It would be disrespectful to do anything against the Sunnah of Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam]. Kissing the thumbs upon hearing the name of Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] has no basis in Shariah. To carry out such an act as a Sunnah is bidah and sin."

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/...10797&act=view
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Old 04-16-2011, 09:21 PM   #10
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What is ment by deoband????
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Old 04-16-2011, 10:08 PM   #11
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Assalamualaikum Sohail.

Didnt see you for a few days. How are things goin for you. Did you get the first lesson in arabic ?
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Old 04-17-2011, 02:33 AM   #12
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Assalamualaikum Sohail.

Didnt see you for a few days. How are things goin for you. Did you get the first lesson in arabic ?
Yeah me doing well....ya attended 5 classes till now...!!!!
great experience
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Old 04-17-2011, 02:47 PM   #13
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Yeah me doing well....ya attended 5 classes till now...!!!!
great experience
SubhanAllah. Also check your mail. I ve send a mail.
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:39 PM   #14
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Sohail,
Aren't you from India? I thought you would have known something about Deoband.
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:43 PM   #15
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Sohail,
Aren't you from India? I thought you would have known something about Deoband.
He just converted few weeks back.
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Old 04-17-2011, 04:04 PM   #16
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He just converted few weeks back.
I know. I too was enjoying when he nearly created a stampede for designing a name. In India Deoband is not unknown but perhaps he wanted a technical info.
Wassalam
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