[FotoCihasWewb]

If you are
- a student in a madrassa,
- or a student of knowledge with a teacher,
- or a student of a Sheikh of tazkiyah,
- or ascribe to a certain maslak within the Sunni school of thought

how do you deal with double standards by your teachers?
Or do you never find such behavior from your teachers?

by double standards, i refer to things like,
- propagating and teaching you one thing and being strict on it, but only in certain cases, but not in other cases.

Do you take it up to your teacher and ask him to clarify with adab?
Or you just do not really care and move on?

[Adiamant]

I heard to benefit from a teacher one needs to regard even his faults superior to your own good actions. But I don't think there's anything wrong with seeking clarification, but a prerequisite would be however that one maintains the Adab of the tounge and the heart. In other words don't make it sound like criticism and assume that the discomfort (of harboring such thoughts about your teacher) has been caused caused by your own lack of understanding the matter. I guess that would be the perfect beheaviour of a true student towards an 'Alim-e-Haq.

[ebonytipchik]

I heard to benefit from a teacher one needs to regard even his faults superior to your own good actions. But I don't think there's anything wrong with seeking clarification, but a prerequisite would be however that one maintains the Adab of the tounge and the heart. In other words don't make it sound like criticism and assume that the discomfort (of harboring such thoughts about your teacher) has been caused caused by your own lack of understanding the matter. I guess that would be the perfect beheaviour of a true student towards an 'Alim-e-Haq.

Assalaamoalaykum-w-w
I find this very interesting! Are the teachers / shaykhs so unapproachable that you have to be careful in how you plan to ask your question?? ..
WOW!!.... Now thats what i call a good future for the Ummah!!

[Adiamant]

I find this very interesting! Are the teachers / shaykhs so unapproachable that you have to be careful in how you plan to ask your question?? ..

I don't think the Shuyukh or teachers are unapprochable or expecting this afore-mentioned beheaviour from you, but it's good on the student's part. Just like scholars won't force people to call them with lofty titles as 'Mawlana', 'Hadhrat', 'Allama' or anything similair, but on the part of the laymen it's good manners. I hope it makes some sense.

I was simply trying to say, that you should approach your teacher but keep the desired manners towards a teacher in mind when you do so. Today we approach our scholars with outward humility: "I might be wrong, but..." and in the world within ourselves we are 100% certain, that we are correct.

[MFSSCW2c]

As-salaamu alaikum,

After reflecting on it and considering every possible angle and explanation and taking your own shortcomings into consideration, talk to your teacher sincerely and respectfully about your concerns/questions. If he's an honest and kind man, he'll be open to you as long as you speak to him diplomatically (be careful to avoid using the word "you" too often - this will come in handy later when you're married). If he reacts negatively and doesn't explain himself well, then let it slide like water off a duck's back.

[Adiamant]

After reflecting on it and considering every possible angle and explanation and taking your own shortcomings into consideration, talk to your teacher sincerely and respectfully about your concerns/questions. If he's an honest and kind man, he'll be open to you as long as you speak to him diplomatically (be careful to avoid using the word "you" too often - this will come in handy later when you're married). If he reacts negatively and doesn't explain himself well, then let it slide like water off a duck's back.

Where the heck is the "Like it"-button when you need it?

[FotoCihasWewb]

for the responses.
So while the clarification steps are underway, what would be the state of your mind?
Would you be in a state of mind of disagreement until the matter is clarified to the fullest?
Or would you bind yourself to agree what your teacher is telling, but continue to seek clarification?

[gennickhif]

In the company of the shaikh questioning shaikh is against adaab. If shaikh says or does things against shariath god forbid then you are free to walk away. But you should not question. In most cases when mureed cannot understand the action or word of the shaikh he should think of the Musa as and Khidr as incident. However, even in this case, some mureeds fall under whats called Suluk e Nabuwwat so they will definitely question the shaikh as Musa as had questioned Khidr as. Some will fall in Suluk e Wilayat and they will not question but make taweel for the shaikhs actions and words. Both are okay. Overall, it is unanimous opinion that even if the shaikh should make intentional riyaa, the shaikhs riyaa is better than the mureeds ikhlaas. Remember that just because a person is a shaikh doesnt mean he is an angel. If the mureed cannot tolerate then he should just go elswhere for islah.

I cannot speak on topic of ulama.

[FotoCihasWewb]

In the company of the shaikh questioning shaikh is against adaab. If shaikh says or does things against shariath god forbid then you are free to walk away. But you should not question. In most cases when mureed cannot understand the action or word of the shaikh he should think of the Musa as and Khidr as incident. However, even in this case, some mureeds fall under whats called Suluk e Nabuwwat so they will definitely question the shaikh as Musa as had questioned Khidr as. Some will fall in Suluk e Wilayat and they will not question but make taweel for the shaikhs actions and words. Both are okay. Overall, it is unanimous opinion that even if the shaikh should make intentional riyaa, the shaikhs riyaa is better than the mureeds ikhlaas. Remember that just because a person is a shaikh doesnt mean he is an angel. If the mureed cannot tolerate then he should just go elswhere for islah.

I cannot speak on topic of ulama.

[attlawqa]

Asalamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullah,

I have a slight issue, maybe a little connected to this one. I teach at a maktab wa al hamdu lillah. Now, I am open to criticism, since it is my first year teaching. The students I have are mostly unfocused and bad mannered. I thought that I would remind them of Allah every start to a lesson or in between. Yes, sometimes we would spend most of the lesson talking about Allah, in a hope to change their attitude inshaa Allah. The main subjects were to do with Qur'an.

Now their parents have talked to the leader of our maktab and they say their children aren't learning their sabaqs and the teacher chats to them a lot. I have been told to cut out the talk and just do the lesson. I have for some reason a huge reservation about teaching teenagers how to read the Qur'an while they are not doing anything to practise upon its words.

I did mashwarah with my personal shaykh about them and he advised me to give a 10 min talk at the beginning of the lesson on the love of ALlah for the students since they were not receptive. But the parents want that their child learns the sabaq (whatever it maybe) no matter what, a lot of their tajweed isn't upto standard. I know al hamdu lillah that tajweed is not an easy subject and it will take a lot of time. I have reservations of pulling them through the book of Allah without them reading it properly. In essence, I love to know where I am going wrong. Should I just teach them through and through without explaining anything about manners, etiquette and most importantly Allah?

How can you instill tajweed into their recitation if they are not willing to do much practise?

I constantly get backbitten by my students, but it's fine. I have been slandered and even been told by a student that she hates me. Allahu Akbar. I pray for my girls and sometimes tears roll. I give them a lot of chances, but maybe too much...

Also, my bunch got the worst exam results al hamdu lillah, maybe it is me. But I don't make compromises at all...


What is your advice for me?

JazakumAllahu khair.

[KeestRast]

Asalamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullah,

I have a slight issue, maybe a little connected to this one. I teach at a maktab wa al hamdu lillah. Now, I am open to criticism, since it is my first year teaching. The students I have are mostly unfocused and bad mannered. I thought that I would remind them of Allah every start to a lesson or in between. Yes, sometimes we would spend most of the lesson talking about Allah, in a hope to change their attitude inshaa Allah. The main subjects were to do with Qur'an.

Now their parents have talked to the leader of our maktab and they say their children aren't learning their sabaqs and the teacher chats to them a lot. I have been told to cut out the talk and just do the lesson. I have for some reason a huge reservation about teaching teenagers how to read the Qur'an while they are not doing anything to practise upon its words.

I did mashwarah with my personal shaykh about them and he advised me to give a 10 min talk at the beginning of the lesson on the love of ALlah for the students since they were not receptive. But the parents want that their child learns the sabaq (whatever it maybe) no matter what, a lot of their tajweed isn't upto standard. I know al hamdu lillah that tajweed is not an easy subject and it will take a lot of time. I have reservations of pulling them through the book of Allah without them reading it properly. In essence, I love to know where I am going wrong. Should I just teach them through and through without explaining anything about manners, etiquette and most importantly Allah?

How can you instill tajweed into their recitation if they are not willing to do much practise?

I constantly get backbitten by my students, but it's fine. I have been slandered and even been told by a student that she hates me. Allahu Akbar. I pray for my girls and sometimes tears roll. I give them a lot of chances, but maybe too much...

Also, my bunch got the worst exam results al hamdu lillah, maybe it is me. But I don't make compromises at all...


What is your advice for me?

JazakumAllahu khair.

My ustadh Qari Saeed Makda who is a student of Qari Ahmedullah of India.... mentions often that his ustadh gave him naseehat saying : ( someat to the effect)
let people talk but you have to teach how your being taught, if people don't like it doesn't matter, if they kick you out, Allah will put you somewhere else. I would follow the advise of the shaykh