[Brewpralgar]

There must be some common etiquettes. What are the Dos and donts?

[qQVXpYM6]

There must be some common etiquettes. What are the Dos and donts?

Most important etiquette is to attend the shaikhs gathering. shaikh will teach u the etiquettes.

[occafeVes]

Most important etiquette is to attend the shaikhs gathering. shaikh will teach u the etiquettes.

Well said Shaikh,When i asked my Shaikh this question,He replied:

"Muhabbat tujh ko adaabe muhabbat khod sikhadegi"

""Love will automatically teach you the etiquettes of love"

[mikelangr]

I'll try to type out some aadaab with `Ulamaa from Imaam Ghazzaali's kitab, Bidayat al-Hidayah, Inshaa'Allaah.

[Brewpralgar]

everyone for replying. Its my first time to attend my Shaykhs gathering =) I wanted to prepare myself. The problem is my shaykhs in another country far away, so il be taking flights on and off every month. He is the only shaykh in this region but i am content that he allows me to attend. How much I wish I could frequently visit him.. i made the thread to get some advice from everyone so i dont slip in any single way.

[qQVXpYM6]

I remember my first time.

Don't be so worried. I think as long as u don't curse ull be ok. Better to live far and appreciate than to live close and take for granted.

U have a long long road ahead. Ull make lots of mistakes but that's how u learn.

[mikelangr]

Before learning the aadaab, know the status of `Ulamaa:
The Status of al-'Ulamaa

[Brewpralgar]

I remember my first time.

Don't be so worried. I think as long as u don't curse ull be ok. Better to live far and appreciate than to live close and take for granted.

U have a long long road ahead. Ull make lots of mistakes but that's how u learn.

JazakAllah brother, I have been starving for someone to tell me what this exactly means.

Il wait for you to write an ellaborate answer dear brother (when ever you get time)

JazakAllah khair brother ImamAlghazzali.

[vosteglog]

Don't worry bro i'm going as well.

[Brewpralgar]

Don't worry bro i'm going as well.

Brother, where are you going?

[vosteglog]

to my sheikh.

[Brewpralgar]

First time?

[vosteglog]

no , not first time.

[BuyNetHosting]

I think one should as well not read up too much on the status of 'Ulema and Mashaykh and how to respect them, especially if one has a shy nature already. Otherwise one'll sit there totally frightened and unable to actually benefit. Please correct me if I am wrong in this assumption!

[mikelangr]

As I promised,

The Ettiquette of the Student:

if you are a student, then the manners of a student with the teacher are: to be the first to greet and offer the salutation of peace; not to speak too much in his presence; not to speak unless asked something by the teacher; not to ask questions without first seeking permission; not to say, in contradiction to what he has said, "So-and-so [e.g., another scholar] says something different from what you say"; not to point out something contrary to his opinion, thinking himself more learned than the teacher; not to whisper to another student in his gathering; not to look around, but rather to sit with good manners, eye downcast, as though in ritual prayer; not to burden him [with questions] when he is tired or weary; to stand when he stands [out of respect]; not to follow him from the gathering, talking to him and asking him questions; not to ask questions on the way to his home until he reaches there [and grants permission]; and not to form a bad opinion of him regarding actions that appear, outwardly, to be blameworthy, for he knows better about his own personal affairs. Let [the student] recall the words of Musa to Khidr [`alayhim assalaam]:"He said, 'Have you made a hole [in the boat] to drown the owners of it? Indeed, you have done a peculiar thing!'" [Qur'aan 18:71]. Mistaken was he in his condemnation of Khidr's actions, because he relied on their outward appearance. [Imaam Ghazzaali's Bidaayat al-Hidaayah]

[Gometesstem]

As I promised,

The Ettiquette of the Student:

if you are a student, then the manners of a student with the teacher are: to be the first to greet and offer the salutation of peace; not to speak too much in his presence; not to speak unless asked something by the teacher; not to ask questions without first seeking permission; not to say, in contradiction to what he has said, "So-and-so [e.g., another scholar] says something different from what you say"; not to point out something contrary to his opinion, thinking himself more learned than the teacher; not to whisper to another student in his gathering; not to look around, but rather to sit with good manners, eye downcast, as though in ritual prayer; not to burden him [with questions] when he is tired or weary; to stand when he stands [out of respect]; not to follow him from the gathering, talking to him and asking him questions; not to ask questions on the way to his home until he reaches there [and grants permission]; and not to form a bad opinion of him regarding actions that appear, outwardly, to be blameworthy, for he knows better about his own personal affairs. Let [the student] recall the words of Musa to Khidr [`alayhim assalaam]:"He said, 'Have you made a hole [in the boat] to drown the owners of it? Indeed, you have done a peculiar thing!'" [Qur'aan 18:71]. Mistaken was he in his condemnation of Khidr's actions, because he relied on their outward appearance. [Imaam Ghazzaali's Bidaayat al-Hidaayah]

[Brewpralgar]

As I promised,

The Ettiquette of the Student:

if you are a student, then the manners of a student with the teacher are: to be the first to greet and offer the salutation of peace; not to speak too much in his presence; not to speak unless asked something by the teacher; not to ask questions without first seeking permission; not to say, in contradiction to what he has said, "So-and-so [e.g., another scholar] says something different from what you say"; not to point out something contrary to his opinion, thinking himself more learned than the teacher; not to whisper to another student in his gathering; not to look around, but rather to sit with good manners, eye downcast, as though in ritual prayer; not to burden him [with questions] when he is tired or weary; to stand when he stands [out of respect]; not to follow him from the gathering, talking to him and asking him questions; not to ask questions on the way to his home until he reaches there [and grants permission]; and not to form a bad opinion of him regarding actions that appear, outwardly, to be blameworthy, for he knows better about his own personal affairs. Let [the student] recall the words of Musa to Khidr [`alayhim assalaam]:"He said, 'Have you made a hole [in the boat] to drown the owners of it? Indeed, you have done a peculiar thing!'" [Qur'aan 18:71]. Mistaken was he in his condemnation of Khidr's actions, because he relied on their outward appearance. [Imaam Ghazzaali's Bidaayat al-Hidaayah]

JazakAllah khair brother. Very useful and a great reminder.

I was a little concernd what brother True_life wrote. Its true to an extend because I am already a very shy person, haya for me is everything and that coupled with nervousness of first time, i might get semi-comatozed and actually not utter anything lol. InshaAllah khair.

[UncoonsKala]

Bismi'Llah
As-salamu ´alaykum wa rahmatu'Llah,

The first time that I met my murshid, I was so nervous and shy. But al-hamdu li 'Llah, this is good, especially if it is out of humbleness, due to our lowly status compared to these great men of Allah. I remember barely being able to speak when they (hafizhahu'Llah) addressed me, this is despite the fact that we had already corresponded through email (and possibly phone) prior to our physical meeting. It was not that I had not met shuyukh prior to this, I had met plenty. But the Noor emanating from them was overwhelming.

Insha'Allah you will do well sidi, don't worry. Chances are that the shaykh and the other murids are aware of you being new, and will most likely (I shall surely hope so) be lenient and compassionate, while possibly correcting any ill-mannered behaviour on your part nicely in private.

Don't worry, for this is not a day of worry sidi, but a day of joy insha'Allah.

wassalam

[Audi_z]

[I]Salateen ki majlis me baitho to Nazar Sambhal kar baitho
Ulama ki majlis me baitho to zabaan sambhal kar baitho
Aur ALLAH walo ki majlis me baitho to DIL sambhal kar baitho.


QUOTED FROM: TASAWUF AUR SULOOK

For more details please refer Chapter No. 2 : AADABE MURSHEED of the above book written by Hazrat MAULANA ZULFIQAR AHMED SAHAB