[InsManKV]

should 8 year olds be made to pray isha and fajr when isha is very late and fajr is very early?

[Bemapayople]

should 8 year olds be made to pray isha and fajr when isha is very late and fajr is very early?

walaykum salam in my opinion i read a hadiths more or less make ur children pray at 7 and beat them for not observing when they are 10 so i think u should still make them pray at the farz for practice i guess (just my opinions)

[feAilei1]

walaykum salam in my opinion i read a hadiths more or less make ur children pray at 7 and beat them for not observing when they are 10 so i think u should still make them pray at the farz for practice i guess (just my opinions)

Agree with this.

My father(May Allah be pleased with him and grant him Paradise. Ameen) used to get me up for Fajr at age 5. He would sit me up and put my robe on me. Then he would stand me up and walk me to the bathroom or carry me if I was playing dead . He would put the water on a comfortable temperature and put my hand in it starting my wudu. At that I would wake up and make wudu then pray with him and and my brother. It wasn't a hardship for me except for the initial waking up and I wasn't tired for school. Sometimes my father would bring us a sweet treat(doughnuts or something) or a toy. So there were times we were excited to wake up just in case...

If it was early enough we would go back to bed until time to get up for school. If not we would just stay up.

As for the lateness of Isha, I've heard about combining Isha w/ Maghrib or delaying Isha until an hour after Maghrib if the lateness of it is a harship. Here is something I found on it:

"The same conclusion drawn by Sheikh Ahmad Kutty is also maintained by the prominent Azharite scholar Sheikh `Abdul-Majeed Subh, who adds:

'One can, as long as he is driven by necessity, pray Maghrib, then wait for one hour and perform `Isha afterwards. This ruling is special to Muslims living in the West who find it very difficult to stay awake for `Isha prayer.'


Tackling the last point concerning the possibility of combining both Maghrib and `Isha prayer in the given case, the eminent Muslim scholar Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, concludes:


“Originally, Muslims are required to perform prayer at their appointed times. However, the case of Muslims living in the West may necessitate them to get up early in the morning to reach their work on time. With this, they find it difficult to stay up late to perform `Isha at its appointed time. If we force people to perform `Isha at its appointed time, then we are ordering them to do something beyond their capability.

It stands to reason that Islam is the religion of easiness. It tends to remove hardship from its followers. Thus, Muslims living in the West who face such difficulty may be allowed to combine both Maghrib and `Isha together. However, the issue of necessity is left to the conscience of those Muslims, and Allah will reward each according to his intention.

Thus, it has become clear after reading the above opininions of scholars that there are two opinions regarding the issue raised in the question. The first one states that Muslims who face such a difficulty in the West can wait one hour after performing Maghrib and then perform `Isha prayer. The other opinion states that those Muslims can combine both Magrib and `Isha, if they are deriven by the same necessity. Thus, you can choose the opinion that best suit your case, keeping in mind that Islam is the religion of easines. "


Read more: http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...#ixzz1JPFeTZAG

Personally, I feel it's easier if you start them as early as possible so they're just used to it. It won't do them any harm. If you're worried though, you could start them on weekends or over the summer break so they can get used to it while not being obligated to get up and stay up for school. By the time school starts in the fall they should be used to it. And if you start now at age 8, then by the time it's an obligation for them it will be something they are used to doing out of habit.

Perhaps someone with more knowledge will add something more .

Allah knows best.

[Cuccuccaltefe]

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