[Crundaangerge]

Asslamualaikum brothers and sisters

i would like to know whther the use of vinegar(plain,white or sugarcane)and tomato ketchup of any brand name is halal? or not?
thnkx...

[Sandvikla]

Salam

i've been eating ketchup and vinegar my whole life, never thought there was a reason to doubt their halal-ness. if you're in doubt check the ingredients note down anything that youre unsure of, look it up on google/wiki if it isnt animal derived your in the clear otherwise if there's animal products consult local muslims.

but in general ketchup and vinegar are fine and they're not animal derived.

[Crundaangerge]

thnku bhai for guiding me ,actually i was a bit confused

[Crundaangerge]

i have one more doubt..
normally every skincare products have glycerine in it, n as far as my knowledge is concerned it sourced mostly frm animal fat(unknown animals)
so wht shud one do in this case?

[dgdhgjjgj]

Asslamualaikum brothers and sisters

i would like to know whther the use of vinegar(plain,white or sugarcane)and tomato ketchup of any brand name is halal? or not?
thnkx...

It would be advisable to contact a local halal body about this. In western countries the heinz ketchup is halal.

As for vinegar, then it is sunnah to have it. The best is white grape vinegar. But commercially you mostly find chemical vinegar (acetic acid) and not the organic ones. Nothing wrong with them.

[Sandvikla]

they're fine

Question
Assalaamualikum Dear Mufti Sahab. In question 1070 some, you stated that Glycerin in products such as Soaps and Shampoos are permissible and you didn?t specify if from animal or plant is permissible so I assume that in non-edible products the Glycerin is permissible. Please correct me if I assumed wrong. I believe this because in question 3611 you stated that Glycerine is of 2 kinds; Plant and Animal. If it?s from animal it?s impermissible but from plant it?s ok in regards to the questions since it was about Toothpaste (edible). I was about to use an eye dropper medicine called Clear Eyes® but noticed it contained Glycerin 0.2 %. Can I use such eye treatment? Can you please clarify in what products we can use if it contains Glycerin( from animal or plant). I understand that all soaps and Shampoos containing Glycerin can be sued and permissible. Please elaborate in detail so I may understand. Jazaklallah khair.

Answer

Soaps and shampoos containing any type of glycerine are permissible. Your understanding that glycerine from animals is permissible in non-edible products is correct. The leniency is based on the principle of ?Umoom-e-Balwa? (public predicament)

It is generally difficult to abstain from soaps and shampoos having animal glycerine. As regards medicine containing animal glycerine, it will be permissible only if there is no adequate alternative.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...8e87bda0fbe7d9

[dgdhgjjgj]

i have one more doubt..
normally every skincare products have glycerine in it, n as far as my knowledge is concerned it sourced mostly frm animal fat(unknown animals)
so wht shud one do in this case?

Question
Assalaamualikum Dear Mufti Sahab. In question 1070 some, you stated that Glycerin in products such as Soaps and Shampoos are permissible and you didn?t specify if from animal or plant is permissible so I assume that in non-edible products the Glycerin is permissible. Please correct me if I assumed wrong. I believe this because in question 3611 you stated that Glycerine is of 2 kinds; Plant and Animal. If it?s from animal it?s impermissible but from plant it?s ok in regards to the questions since it was about Toothpaste (edible). I was about to use an eye dropper medicine called Clear Eyes® but noticed it contained Glycerin 0.2 %. Can I use such eye treatment? Can you please clarify in what products we can use if it contains Glycerin( from animal or plant). I understand that all soaps and Shampoos containing Glycerin can be sued and permissible. Please elaborate in detail so I may understand. Jazaklallah khair.

Answer

Soaps and shampoos containing any type of glycerine are permissible. Your understanding that glycerine from animals is permissible in non-edible products is correct. The leniency is based on the principle of ?Umoom-e-Balwa? (public predicament)

It is generally difficult to abstain from soaps and shampoos having animal glycerine. As regards medicine containing animal glycerine, it will be permissible only if there is no adequate alternative.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

[feAilei1]

i have one more doubt..
normally every skincare products have glycerine in it, n as far as my knowledge is concerned it sourced mostly frm animal fat(unknown animals)
so wht shud one do in this case?

Sister;

If you're worried about the possibility of animal ingredients in skincare you can try going to a health food store and get something "vegetarian". I'm not sure if you're in the U.S., but here we have Whole Foods which is a grocery store that also sells a lot of vegetarian foods and skin care products that do not contain any animal products or do any animal testing. Internationally, I believe Lush and The Body Shop sell products that are free of animal derived ingredients and do not do animal testing.

[UBJ3kvP1]

Assalam O Alaikum

Please visit our Science and Fiqah section of our websites and find what out why the pork fat remained as is in bar soap, glycerin and pork collagen remained as is in gelatin.

Syed Rasheeduddin Ahmed
Muslim Consumer Group For Food Products
www.muslimconsumergroup.com
www.canadianhalalfoods.com

[UBJ3kvP1]

Assalam O Alaikum Sr. Namelesswonder,

I do not know where you live, if you live in USA then go to our website www.muslimconsumergroup.com, if you are in Canada please visit our website www.canadianhalalfoods.com. If you live in London, UK we have two supermarkets products listed on www.muslimconsumergroup.com and go Foreign food products. I recommend to use Distilled White vinegar for vinegar and any brand of Tomato Ketchup without any Natural Flavor but if in USA if it says Flavoring it means using of Oleoresin Black Pepper which is a Halal ingredient. The major Halal brands of Tomato Ketchup in USA is Heinz Organic Ketchup and Frank's Totally Tomato Ketchup. In Canada No Name, President Choice, Irresistable, Frank and Heinz brand of Tomato Ketchup. In London, UK Sainsbury Tomato Ketchup.

Syed Rasheeduddin Ahmed
Muslim Consumer Group For Food Products
www.muslimconsumergroup.com
www.canadianhalalfoods.com

[mikelangr]

Akhi Rasheed,

Do you live in BC ?

[ChebuRAtoR]

As for vinegar, then it is sunnah to have it. The best is white grape vinegar. But commercially you mostly find chemical vinegar (acetic acid) and not the organic ones. Nothing wrong with them.

moulana sahab is it permissible to eat wine vinegar? I've heard alot of people saying cooking with red wine vinegar is halal because cooking it makes the buzz go away, but alot of people also say it's haram. which is the right view?

[UBJ3kvP1]

Assalam O Alaikum Br. ImamGhazzaali,

No, I live in Huntley, IL 50 miles from Chicago downtown. But I was in Toronto for few days in late March for my research work in 8 supermarkets and Inshallah it will be published in few weeks.


Syed Rasheeduddin Ahmed
Muslim Consumer Group For Food Products
www.muslimconsumergroup.com
www.canadianhalalfoods.com

[UBJ3kvP1]

Assalam O Alaikum

Glycerin is obtained by splitting the animal or vegetable fat and it is also produced by synthetically by oxidation and chlorination of propylene gas. Giving general green light to use glycerin in skincare [roducts without verifying its source is not the anser because Muslims may end up using pork fat based glycerin in skincare products. There is another fact that there are vegetable fat based and synthetic based glycerin are now commonly used in food and skincare products but Muslim consumer must verify its Halal status by calling the manufacturer. Like sister mention about Whole Food market which carries the Halal unscented bar soap named 365 Bar soap. It is very easy to find the Halal status of glycerin not only in USA/Canada but also in Europe. In USA/Canada if glycerin is a part of ingredients of food product and if a Kosher symbol appears on the package it means the glycerin is obtained from soy fat. In skincare products if the answer from the company is no animal derived ingredients are used then it means the glycerin is either obtained synthetically or from vegetable fat. In Europe "Suitable For Vegetarian" label indicates that glycerin is obtained from Halal sources if glycerin is present in food or skincare products. This the right way to avoid pork fat based glycerin. Pork fat based glycerin is also used as a solvent in liquid artificial colors as a hidden or processing aid ingredient. The above is also applied for FD&C colors in soft drinks and other liquid products because the powder FD&C colors can not beused in liquid food products.

Vinegar is nothing but combination of Acetic Acid and water, although vinegar with acetic acid and water was existed prehistoric time but its presence was known later. Vinegar has standard of identity in different countries based amount of Acetic acid in vinegar measured in grains. Actual content and basis of its production was discovered later. There is no such thing vinegar without Acetic acid to be called vinegar. It was known as sour liquid.

Vinegar can only be made either from sugar from many fruits and grain by first converting it to alcohol. The other source either pure alcohol or alcohol in wine and other liquor. Only alcohol can be dierctly made in to vinegar and this is the excellent example of Sharia rule Tabdile Mahiya.

Although It is prohibited for Shafi not use the wine vinegar according Muslim shareef but many ulema do not have the knowledge about what actually happened during production wine vinegar. As we know wine is Haram and every constitute of it is Haram. Wine composition is known to most of the Muslims but beside alcohol it also contains various organic compounds and coloring compound if it is from red grape. These compounds produced as the result of fermentation of grape or other fruits sugar. In Wine vinegar these compounds remained as is, it means the wine vinegar is carrying the compounds developed during making wine. The Acetobacteria which only convert the alcohol of wine to acetic acids and water have no impact on the remaining organic compounds of wine. Second not 100% wine is converted to wine vinegar some wine is left over in wine vinegar. There is process in the world to completely changed the wine to wine vinegar. This is the reason wine vinegar smell and taste like wine. On these scientific facts MCG do not consider wine vinegar as a Halal vinegar.

Syed Rasheeduddin Ahmed
Muslim Consumer Group For Food Products
www.muslimconsumergroup.com
www.canadianhalalfoods.com