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Incident 1: Mr. M brought his wife to the hospital, she is in pain. Immediately a doctor came to see her. Mr. M said to the doctor, “Is there any Muslim female doctor”? “You do not encourage your women to become a doctor, then why are you looking for a female doctor”? Replied the doctor, “you like your women must stay at home and cook for you, therefore, other community took advantage, so they became the doctors and nurses,” continued the doctor.
Incident 2: Headmaster wants to discuss the children’s welfare to the guardian. Some Muslim women came but they are in Niqab. Headmaster is talking about the important policies of children’s welfare. Unfortunately no women uttered a single word, because headmaster is a Muhrim, so they cannot talk. They asked, “Is there any Muslim teacher?” “How many teachers did you produce”? Said the headmaster, “You like your women must stay at home, why do you look for women teacher?” |
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Incident 1: Mr. M brought his wife to the hospital, she is in pain. Immediately a doctor came to see her. Mr. M said to the doctor, “Is there any Muslim female doctor”? “You do not encourage your women to become a doctor, then why are you looking for a female doctor”? Replied the doctor, “you like your women must stay at home and cook for you, therefore, other community took advantage, so they became the doctors and nurses,” continued the doctor.
![]() Unfortunately we Muslims like to be served and don't like to serve. We search for female Muslim docs and scholars and teachers and whatever and expect them to spring from the ground whenever the need arises. What should be done has to be decided at the community level, barriers to education identified and broken down and an entire culture rethought and redeveloped. My first younger sister is a Pharmacist and a Hafiz of the Qur'an. My second younger sister is a Paediatrician. My wife is a Gynecologist and my mother is a Lawyer. All these ladies have completed their studies in complete Hijab and those among them who are working now are also doing it in Hijab. It is not impossible or even difficult. Incident 2: Headmaster wants to discuss the children’s welfare to the guardian. Some Muslim women came but they are in Niqab. Headmaster is talking about the important policies of children’s welfare. Unfortunately no women uttered a single word, because headmaster is a Muhrim, so they cannot talk. They asked, “Is there any Muslim teacher?” “How many teachers did you produce”? Said the headmaster, “You like your women must stay at home, why do you look for women teacher?” It was the job of the fathers to come and not the mothers. The Headmaster would have been more careful in what he said then. Wasalam. |
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Salam Brother,
your comment is really inspiring. Majority students in our school are Muslim. But our our Muslim people do not like to participate in the governing body. Men normally do not bring children to school, in fact women do. women do not take part in policy making. Other people come forward. Hindu, Sikhs etc are so well advanced. you do not have to tell them what to do. They know exactly. For school trip they come to help the teacher. So school have to look after them. Our Muslim women will be inside the niqab. They wont even talk. it is so odd in 21st century. our voice is not heard anywhere. |
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Incident 1: Mr. M brought his wife to the hospital, she is in pain. Immediately a doctor came to see her. Mr. M said to the doctor, “Is there any Muslim female doctor”? “You do not encourage your women to become a doctor, then why are you looking for a female doctor”? Replied the doctor, “you like your women must stay at home and cook for you, therefore, other community took advantage, so they became the doctors and nurses,” continued the doctor. ![]() |
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Incident 1: Mr. M brought his wife to the hospital, she is in pain. Immediately a doctor came to see her. Mr. M said to the doctor, “Is there any Muslim female doctor”? “You do not encourage your women to become a doctor, then why are you looking for a female doctor”? Replied the doctor, “you like your women must stay at home and cook for you, therefore, other community took advantage, so they became the doctors and nurses,” continued the doctor. Mashallah You have a wonderful family. I share your position but i am confused for few days after having read a thread here on the verse 33:33 of the Holy Quran on the instruction for the wifes of the Prophet (SAW) to remain at home. What do you think? Thanks |
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The meaning of the ayat is: "O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women. If you keep you have Taqwa, then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire, but speak in an honorable manner. And stay in your houses, and do not Tabarruj yourselves like the Tabarruj of the times of ignorance"...
The answer is in the ayat itself. ayat started "O wives of the prophet..." So specifically it is for the wives of prophet; not for the ordinary women. |
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The meaning of the ayat is: "O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women. If you keep you have Taqwa, then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire, but speak in an honorable manner. And stay in your houses, and do not Tabarruj yourselves like the Tabarruj of the times of ignorance"... Wa salamu 'alaikum. |
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Ayat says the "wives of the the prophet" but you saying no. Common sense agrees that the mother of the believers should be more virtuous than the ordinary women. therefore some special rules would be given to them. As the prophet (SAW) was given some extra worship and some facilities too. it was his speciality that he could marry more than four. no other human being can. similarly mother of the believers cannot marry after prophet (SAW)'s demise. because they are given a higher status. so obviously there should be some rules for them.
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probably this is homework for u..read the interpretation of the mentioned Ayat from authentic source..'TAFSEER IBN KATHEER'...instead of arguing where u have no knowledge of what u are talking about. Did you know that last month Saudi scholars issued fatawa that uprising against regime is haram. I wonder from which Ibn Kathir all this interpretations come from! |
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Subhanallah...Allah swt. may rewrd u for this superb response! http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...he_Saudi_Veil/ |
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This described the oxymoron nature of 'Practicing Muslim' devoid of reality, practicality let alone wisdom. These people will feel right at home in Saudia where in absense of their men folks stay at home and live in poverty because they can't go out. There are enough work in this field to limit all the pitfall of free mixing by UK based scholar like Maulana Yunus Dudhwalal and others. The problem is overzealot, literalist or someone with a cultural baggage does not want to listen. People in the non muslim country should realise looking to Saudia or even pakistan for relegious guidance is missplaced as it ignores the social context. This is an excellent thread and the responses are out of this world!!! mashaAllah one of dem ones which make you happy that the Ummah is going somewhere good!!! Abu Tamim ... you have a new admirer.... and dont let that go to your head sir.... ![]() |
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Ayat says the "wives of the the prophet" but you saying no. Common sense agrees that the mother of the believers should be more virtuous than the ordinary women. therefore some special rules would be given to them. As the prophet (SAW) was given some extra worship and some facilities too. it was his speciality that he could marry more than four. no other human being can. similarly mother of the believers cannot marry after prophet (SAW)'s demise. because they are given a higher status. so obviously there should be some rules for them. |
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Ayat says the "wives of the the prophet" but you saying no. Common sense agrees that the mother of the believers should be more virtuous than the ordinary women. therefore some special rules would be given to them. As the prophet (SAW) was given some extra worship and some facilities too. it was his speciality that he could marry more than four. no other human being can. similarly mother of the believers cannot marry after prophet (SAW)'s demise. because they are given a higher status. so obviously there should be some rules for them. ![]() let me post the ayah again The meaning of the ayat is: "O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women. If you keep you have Taqwa, then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire, but speak in an honorable manner. And stay in your houses, and do not Tabarruj yourselves like the Tabarruj of the times of ignorance"... The answer is in the ayat itself. ayat started "O wives of the prophet..." So specifically it is for the wives of prophet; not for the ordinary women. While we take your logic of common sense demanding that mothers of believers be more virtious, please take note of the bold part of the ayah as well. The same common sense also demands that this instruction be given to one who has that which it cautions from. Did the Ummahat have this disease in their heart? But then you finished your quote with your "..." . So let us see what Allah finished the ayah with "And abide quietly in your homes, and do not flaunt your charms as they used to flaunt them in the old days of pagan ignorance; and be constant in prayer, and render the purifying dues, and pay heed unto God and His Apostle: for God only wants to remove from you all that might be loathsome, O you members of the [Prophet's] household, and to purify you to utmost purity" Did the ummahaat need to remove some loathsome rijs in them? Or they were more virtuous. Finally, do only the wives of the prophet ![]() ![]() |
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On Westernizing the Saudi Woman
The video is in arabic and the end of the video, the opinions of shayookh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSH0JhraeOQ |
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Imam Tirmizi said this hadith is authentic. But Hafiz Ibnu Abdul Barr found out a weakness in this hadith. He said that in the chain of narration of this hadith a person by the name of Nabhan appears, whom he introduced himself as an employee of Umm Salamah. Reliability of this person is unknown. No Muhaddiths from 2nd and 3rd century commented anything about him. Nobody reported from him except Ibn Shihab Zuhri. Ibn Hibban said, “He is acceptable”. Ibn Hajar Askalani said, “All right”. Imam Nawawi said, “This hadith is hasan”. (Ibnu Abdul Barr, At-Tamhid 19/155, Nawawi Sharhe Muslim 10/97; Ibn Hajar Asqalani, Tahzibut Tahzib 10/372; Albani, Jilbab 66) Reported by Fatima bintu Qais that when her husband issued last of the three talaqs (divorce) from overseas, she came to inform the whole matter to prophet (S.A.W). Prophet (S.A.W) said to her, “Do not go and stay at Umm Sharik’s house for your waiting period (Iddat). Because lot of guests come to Umm Sharik’s house. I am afraid that your head scarf will fall down or garment will go up from your ankles. Therefore some parts of your body will be exposed to the guests which you do not like. So go to your cousin brother Abdullah Ibn Umm Maktum’s house and perform your Iddat. He is a blind person; you may keep your cloth open. If you open your head scarf, he will not be able to see you.....At the end of my Iddat I heard somebody is calling towards salat.......”. (Muslim 2/1114, 4/2261; Albani Jilbab 66) Questions arise here: 1. Why prophet (S.A.W) permitted Fatimah to stay in Ibn Maktum’s house? 2. In the house it is a normal custom that except private parts people keep other parts of the body uncovered. 3. Especially the face stays uncovered at all times. 4. Prophet (S.A.W) clearly said, “He is a blind person; you may keep your cloth open. If you open your head scarf, he will not be able to see you”. 5. Fatimah was not blind. 6. Therefore she will see his face, head, shoulder, back and chest etc. 7. If these parts were illegal to see, then prophet (S.A.W) would not have given Fatimah permission to stay in his house. 8. In front of the guest people would take more precaution than living in another man’s house. All experts of hadith are unanimous that this hadith is stronger than the previous one. So some Muhaddith tried to adjust them as this hadith will be acted upon than the other one. Some tried to adjust the meanings. After comparing these two hadiths Imam Abu Dawood, Allama Ibn Abdul Barr, Allama Munziri, Hafiz Ibn Hajar Asqalani etc said, “concealing from a blind person was exclusively for the Mother of the believers. As Allah says in the Quranيانساء النبي لستن كاحد من النساء العالمين .They are not like the other common women. They were given more rules than the others. Common ladies do not have to conceal themselves from a blind person. They will conceal the satar only from strangers; not the other parts of the body. (Abu Dawood 4/63; abdul Barr, At-Tamhid 19/1546; Ibn Hajar Asqalani, Talkhisul Habieer 3/148; Fathul Bari 12/37; Shawkani, Nailul Awtar 6/248) |
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32. O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women. If you keep you have Taqwa, then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire, but speak in an honorable manner. 33. And stay in your houses, and do not Tabarruj yourselves like the Tabarruj of the times of ignorance, and perform the Salah, and give Zakah and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah wishes only to remove the Ar-Rijs from you, O members of the family, and to purify you with a thorough purification. 34. And remember, that which is recited in your houses of the Ayat of Allah and Al-Hikmah. Verily, Allah is Ever Most Courteous, Well-Acquainted with all things.
Enjoining certain Manners so that the Mothers of the Believers may be an Example These are the good manners which Allah enjoined upon the wives of the Prophet so that they would be an example for the women of the Ummah to follow. Allah said, addressing the wives of the Prophet that they should fear Allah as He commanded them, and that no other woman is like them or can be their equal in virtue and status. Then Allah says: فَلاَ تَخْضَعْنَ بِالْقَوْلِ then be not soft in speech: As-Suddi and others said, this means, do not be gentle in speech when addressing men. Allah says: فَيَطْمَعَ الَّذِى فِى قَلْبِهِ مَرَضٌ (lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire,) means, something unclean. ﴿وَقُلْنَ قَوْلاً مَّعْرُوفاً﴾ (but speak in an honorable manner.) Ibn Zayd said: "Decent and honorable talk that is known to be good.'' This means that she should address non-Mahram men in a manner in which there is no softness, i.e., a woman should not address a non-Mahram man in the same way that she addresses her husband. وَقَرْنَ فِى بُيُوتِكُنَّ (And stay in your houses,) means, stay in your houses and do not come out except for a purpose. One of the purposes mentioned in Shari`ah is prayer in the Masjid, so long as the conditions are fulfilled, as the Messenger of Allah said: «لَا تَمْنَعُوا إِمَاءَ اللهِ مَسَاجِدَ اللهِ وَلْيَخْرُجْنَ وَهُنَّ تَفِلَات» (Do not prevent the female servants of Allah from the Masjids of Allah, but have them go out without wearing fragrance.) According to another report: «وَبُيُوتُهُنَّ خَيْرٌ لَهُن» (even though their houses are better for them.) وَلاَ تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ الْجَـهِلِيَّةِ الاٍّولَى (and do not Tabarruj yourselves like the Tabarruj of the times of ignorance,) Mujahid said: "Women used to go out walking in front of men, and this was the Tabarruj of Jahiliyyah.'' Qatadah said: وَلاَ تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ الْجَـهِلِيَّةِ الاٍّولَى (and do not Tabarruj yourselves like the Taburruj of the times of ignorance,) "When they go out of their homes walking in a shameless and flirtatious manner, and Allah, may He be exalted, forbade that.'' Muqatil bin Hayyan said: وَلاَ تَبَرَّجْنَ تَبَرُّجَ الْجَـهِلِيَّةِ الاٍّولَى (and do not Tabarruj yourselves like the Tabarruj of the times of ignorance,) "Tabarruj is when a woman puts a Khimar on her head but does not tie it properly.'' So her necklaces, earrings and neck, and all of that can be seen. This is Tabarruj, and Allah addresses all the women of the believers with regard to Tabarruj. وَأَقِمْنَ الصَّلَوةَ وَءَاتِينَ الزَّكَـوةَ وَأَطِعْنَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ (and perform the Salah, and give Zakah and obey Allah and His Messenger.) Allah first forbids them from evil, then He enjoins them to do good by establishing regular prayer, which means worshipping Allah alone with no partner or associate, and paying Zakah, which means doing good to other people. وَأَطِعْنَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ (and obey Allah and His Messenger.) This is an instance of something specific being followed by something general. إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنكُـمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيــراً (Allah wishes only to remove Ar-Rijs from you, O members of the family, and to purify you with a thorough purification.) This is a clear statement that the wives of the Prophet are included among the members of his family (Ahl Al-Bayt) here, because they are the reason why this Ayah was revealed, and the scholars are unanimously agreed that they were the reason for revelation in this case, whether this was the only reason for revelation or there was also another reason, which is the correct view. Ibn Jarir recorded that `Ikrimah used to call out in the marketplace: إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنكُـمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيــراً (Allah wishes only to remove Ar-Rijs from you, O members of the family, and to purify you with a thorough purification.) "This was revealed solely concerning the wives of the Prophet.'' Ibn Abi Hatim recorded that Ibn `Abbas said concerning the Ayah: إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنكُـمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ (Allah wishes only to remove Ar-Rijs from you, O members of the family,) "It was revealed solely concerning the wives of the Prophet .'' `Ikrimah said: "Whoever disagrees with me that it was revealed solely concerning the wives of the Prophet , I am prepared to meet with him and pray and invoke the curse of Allah upon those who are lying.'' So they alone were the reason for revelation, but others may be included by way of generalization. Ibn Jarir narrated that Safiyyah bint Shaybah said: "`A'ishah, may Allah be pleased with her, said, `The Prophet went out one morning wearing a striped cloak of black camel's hair. Al-Hasan, may Allah be pleased with him, came and he wrapped him in the cloak with him. Then Al-Husayn, may Allah be pleased with him, came and he wrapped him in the cloak with him. Then Fatimah, may Allah be pleased with her, came and he wrapped her in the cloak with him. Then `Ali, may Allah be pleased with him, came and he wrapped him in the cloak with him, then he said: إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنكُـمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيــراً (Allah wishes only to remove Ar-Rijs from you, O members of the family, and to purify you with a thorough purification.) This was recorded by Muslim. In his Sahih, Muslim recorded that Yazid bin Hayyan said: "Husayn bin Sabrah, `Umar bin Muslim and I went to Zayd bin Arqam, may Allah be pleased with him, and when we had sat down with him, Husayn said: `You are so fortunate, O Zayd! You saw the Messenger of Allah and heard his speeches, and you went on military campaigns with him, and you prayed behind him. You are so fortunate, O Zayd! Tell us what you heard from the Messenger of Allah .' He said, `O son of my brother, by Allah, I have grown old and it has been a long time, and I have forgotten some of the things that I used to know from the Messenger of Allah . Whatever I tell you, accept it, and whatever I do not tell you, do not worry about it.' Then he said, `One day, the Messenger of Allah stood up to address us by the well of Khumm, between Makkah and Al-Madinah, and he praised Allah and thanked Him, and he preached and reminded us. Then he said: «أَمَّا بَعْدُ، أَلَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ فَإِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ يُوشِكُ أَنْ يَأْتِيَنِي رَسُولُ رَبِّي فَأُجِيبَ، وَأَنَا تَارِكٌ فِيكُمْ ثَقَلَيْنِ: أَوَّلُهُمَا كِتَابُ اللهِ تَعَالَى، فِيهِ الْهُدَى وَالنُّورُ فَخُذُوا بِكِتَابِ اللهِ وَاسْتَمْسِكُوا بِه» (Thereafter! O people, I am merely a human being and soon the messenger of my Lord will come and I will answer him. I am leaving behind two things with you, the first of which is the Book of Allah in which is guidance and light, so seize the Book of Allah and hold fast to it.) He urged them to cling to the Book of Allah, then he said: «وَأَهْلُ بَيْتِي أُذَكِّرُكُمُ اللهَ فِي أَهْلِ بَيْتِي، أُذَكِّرُكُمُ اللهَ فِي أَهْلِ بَيْتِي» (And the members of my family (Ahl Al-Bayt): Remember Allah with regard to the members of my family, remember Allah with regard to the members of my family.) saying it three times.' Husayn said to him, `Who are the members of his family (Ahl Al-Bayt), O Zayd Are not his wives members of his family' He said, `His wives are members of his family, but the members of his family are those who are not permitted to receive charity after he died.' He said, `Who are they' He said, `They are the family of `Ali, the family of `Aqil, the family of Ja`far and the family of `Abbas, may Allah be pleased with them.' He said, `Were all of these forbidden to receive charity after his death' He said, `Yes.''' This Commentary is from Zayd bin Arqam and is not Marfu`. Tafsir ibn Kathir. |
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