[wmirkru]

Shaykh Ahmed al masaraawi and shaykh Ayman al suwayydh discuss the issue of maqaamat in Quran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htm04...eature=related


The Above halaqa caused a lot of fitnah amongst the Quraa and many Qurra have started to make counter arguments and programs after this tv show was aired. after which shaykh ayaman and shaykh masaraawi went and repeated this at several other islamic tv channels.


The shuyuukh in this tv show expressed their opinion that the maqamaat are to be avoided and that they are not from the sciences of Quran or islam.

shaykh masaraawi testified that shaykh hosary and shaykh abdel basit may allah make them of the people who enter the highest jannah etc did not study the the maqamaat but that allah blessed with such voices.and as a student of shaykh abdelbasit and shaykh husari he made that very clear.


I am posting this because i had a bit of debate with someone on this issue on sunniforum and i preferred it for him if he watched this program and at least saw the view of the two most knowledgeable Quran and Qiraat

and i hope that this lecture clears up why so many now stand against this issue of the study of maqamaat.

[wmirkru]

hope people can benefit from this inshalah

[unlomarma]

Asalamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullah,

As I cannot understand all of this, could you please just summarise what was discussed?

JazakumAllahu khair.

[Intory]

As-Salamu `alaykum

and i hope that this lecture clears up why so many now stand against this issue of the study of maqamaat.

Why are they against the study of maqamat? What is wrong with studying maqamat?

[wmirkru]

As-Salamu `alaykum



Why are they against the study of maqamat? What is wrong with studying maqamat?

watch the program

[Xcqjwarl]

sorry, but for the layman what is maqaamat?

[LxtdK9i4]

, I was looking for something of this sort.

But the problem is, it's really long... I listened through the first part before realizing it was a 13-part video.. Interesting stuff .. but do you know in which specific one of these 13 they discuss maqamaat?

[wmirkru]

, I was looking for something of this sort.

But the problem is, it's really long... I listened through the first part before realizing it was a 13-part video.. Interesting stuff .. but do you know in which specific one of these 13 they discuss maqamaat?

Part two they start explaining , i enjoyed it especially shaykh masaraawi refutation of the statement by many the scholars such as minshawi hosary and abdel basit who the shaykh studied under recited in maqaamat did so out of fitrah not because they studied .

[wmirkru]

sorry, but for the layman what is maqaamat?

Arab musical notes

such as:
sega
bayaat
hijazi
ajam
nahawand
rast
Saba

the scholars explain that these are not quranic or islamic sciences but rather musical notes meant for music not quran

[wmirkru]

Asalamu 'alaikum wa rahmatullah,

As I cannot understand all of this, could you please just summarise what was discussed?

JazakumAllahu khair.

The origin of these maqamaat or musical notes
the ruling on them
why some recitors recite in them is fitrah or did they study them
how should someone recite
how do these maqaam effect tajweed
how do these maqaam effect makhaarij huroof

many world famous recitors (Muqris)expressed their view amongst shaykh saad al ghamaadi and shaykh abdirashid shaykh ali sufi

[Xcqjwarl]

Inttresting. are there any examples of recitations n which these are used? to get an idea of what it sounds like or difference it makes in recitation.

[Intory]

the scholars explain that these are not quranic or islamic sciences but rather musical notes meant for music not quran

Even if they are not Qur'anic sciences, why would that make studying them impermissible? Theories and sciences develop from human thought and practice. If someone reads in a particular style that is not defined in the science of maqamat, and tomorrow someone develops a theory of that style and defines and studies it, would that then make it impermissible?

The origin of these maqamaat or musical notes
the ruling on them
why some recitors recite in them is fitrah or did they study them
how should someone recite
how do these maqaam effect tajweed
how do these maqaam effect makhaarij huroof

If qaris such as Shaykh `Abd al-Basit (rahimahullah) recited according to the rules of maqamat (even if out of fitra and no study), how can the maqamat affect tajwid negatively?

[wmirkru]

Even if they are not Qur'anic sciences, why would that make studying them impermissible? Theories and sciences develop from human thought and practice. If someone reads in a particular style that is not defined in the science of maqamat, and tomorrow someone develops a theory of that style and defines and studies it, would that then make it impermissible?



If qaris such as Shaykh `Abd al-Basit (rahimahullah) recited according to the rules of maqamat (even if out of fitra and no study), how can the maqamat affect tajwid negatively?

Shaykh hudaifi recites in a certain style , he lenghtens the mudood to the maximum allowance its his style its not out of the bounds of tajweed.

shaykh abdel basit recited in a manner that resembled a certain maqaam specifaclly however he did not study but allah gave him this voice.

However the issue is that musical notes cannot be applied to Quran as the Quran is the word of allah and that musical notes are haraam.

now to apply musical notes to quran amongst some Qurra is considered a bid'ah/haraaam amongst others makruh and amongst others jaaiz.

now the issue is one of contention i consider it haraam on the basis that the quran cannot be sung and that by applying musical notes characterized by a specific set of notes you are singing.


The point is that allah gave shaykh abdel basit a beatiful voice but he did not study musical notes and this is core of the issue as these scholars scholars these music to be haraam and thereofre the study of musical notes to be haraam

[Rithlilky]

Are there any articles/interviews on the arguments in defense of learning Maqamat? I would like to know what they other side has to say, too...