[Kolokireo]

As Salamu 'Alaikum,

today unknowlingly I went to Barelvi masjid for Jumma , is my Salah valid?
Should I repeat?

Can I eat meat in Barelvi hotels? Again unknowlingly stepped into a hotel and found Haji Ali Dargah images inside.
They would have bought meat definetely from Muslim stall. dont know if its our brother's or barelvies

Since in mumbai, there are lots of Green belt Barelvis; whats the ruling on meat cut by them?

[shkarpet$]

As Salamu 'Alaikum,

today unknowlingly I went to Barelvi masjid for Jumma , is my Salah valid?
Should I repeat?

Can I eat meat in Barelvi hotels? Again unknowlingly stepped into a hotel and found Haji Ali Dargah images inside.
They would have bought meat definetely from Muslim stall. dont know if its our brother's or barelvies

Since in mumbai, there are lots of Green belt Barelvis; whats the ruling on meat cut by them?

Dear brother your salah is valid .
You should do tehikik about meat weather it is halal or not it is not related to barelvi

last point i din't understand

[Kolokireo]

thanks bro.

Barelvis have Meat stall,
1. so buying meat from them is valid?
2. if any hindu thinks of buying halal meat for his hotel and ended up buying from Barelvi mutton stall - Can we eat that meat?

[Garry Hovard]

erm barelwis are not kaafir

why would their meat not be halal?

[Kolokireo]

I thought we cant eat their meat as we are not supposed to pray behind them

[movlabc]

thanks bro.

Barelvis have Meat stall,
1. so buying meat from them is valid?
2. if any hindu thinks of buying halal meat for his hotel and ended up buying from Barelvi mutton stall - Can we eat that meat?

1. Meat slaughtered and sold by barailwis is not haram. If it is known that such and such meat was slaughtered in the name of certain peer sahab, instead of Allah (which is very unlikely), then that meat will not be halal. But in normal cases Barailwi slaughtering the sheep or cow do so following the same guidelines of zabiha. Their meat is permissible for consumption.

As the brother suggested, like any normal research into the matter, do a search if the slaughtering method is shar'i compliant instead of focusing whether the meat is slaughtered by barelwi or non barelwi.

2. It will not be advisable for you to eat at the hindu hotel even though the meat he is using is halal. Hindu's although have sense of vegitarianism to a minimal extent, but contamination can definitely occur. For a hindu who consumes chicken or mutton, there is no distinction of halal or haram. Hence his food may have other elements which may not be in line with halal guidelines. The other issue here is not about halal or haram of the meat rather of the facility of Muslim Halal Hotel being available. When you have a muslim outlets available, then it is better to go to them.

Hypothetically, If a hindu colleague buys a halal chicken for you and especially makes a dish only for you catering for your halal needs, then the food will be permissible. However caution is better.

Wallahu A'lam,

[Kolokireo]

thanks Mufti saab.

What about praying behind them?
Should I avoid those masjids?

[bumxumer]

thanks Mufti saab.

What about praying behind them?
Should I avoid those masjids?

when in grave every person will be asked maa deenuka
then will you answer deobandi or bralvi or islam?
be united my dear

[payowlirriply]

Dear brother your salah is valid .
You should do tehikik about meat weather it is halal or not it is not related to barelvi

last point i din't understand

Assalamu alaykum

Br. There are aalims and muftis who have the authority to reply those queries from OP.

Our elders advice us to limit ourselves to dawah and fatwah giving must be done only if you are a mufti.

Let me quote an incident.

Once I consulted an aalim (who is a great scholar, fantastic arabic language skills, great speaker). This great moulana directed me to a less known mufti of the same madrasah.

So there is a protocol. Our elders expect strict discipline in following this protocol.

[movlabc]

thanks Mufti saab.

What about praying behind them?
Should I avoid those masjids?

If there are other deobandi masajid in the area, then it is better for you to go to those masajid. However, as long as you know that the Imam of the certain barelwi masjid does not hold any incorrect shirki aqeedah, your salah in that masjid will be valid. This is not only limited to Barelwis rather Ahl Hadith, Wahabis too. As long as the Imam has no beliefs which are corrupt, salah behind him is valid.

Mufti Ebrahim Desai Saheb has mentioned it better:

1. It is not permissible to perform Salaat behind an Imaam who possess beliefs of Shirk (associating partners with Allah). However, if his beliefs do not tantamount to Shirk, then it is permissible to follow him in Salaat. (Fataawa Mahmoodiyah vol.2 pg.97)

2. It is permissible to perform Salaat behind those Ahl-e-Hadith who do not revere Imaam Abu Hanifa, etc. and consider other Madhabis when leading Salaat. (Fataawa Mahmoodiyah vol.1 pg.261) and

It is permissible to perform Salaat behind the Barelvis.

[OgrGlgHu]

If there are other deobandi masajid in the area, then it is better for you to go to those masajid. However, as long as you know that the Imam of the certain barelwi masjid does not hold any incorrect shirki aqeedah, your salah in that masjid will be valid. This is not only limited to Barelwis rather Ahl Hadith, Wahabis too. As long as the Imam has no beliefs which are corrupt, salah behind him is valid.

Mufti Ebrahim Desai Saheb has mentioned it better:



and

How will a person know what beliefs the Imam holds?
What is the ruling for the case when one doesn't know about the belief of the Imam?
What visible amals of the Imam/Muazzin should be sufficient for us to believe that Imam possess beliefs of shirk?

[blankostaroe]

If there are other deobandi masajid in the area, then it is better for you to go to those masajid. However, as long as you know that the Imam of the certain barelwi masjid does not hold any incorrect shirki aqeedah, your salah in that masjid will be valid. This is not only limited to Barelwis rather Ahl Hadith, Wahabis too. As long as the Imam has no beliefs which are corrupt, salah behind him is valid.

Mufti Ebrahim Desai Saheb has mentioned it better:



and

what if a person prays behind a barelvi/salafi/ahle hadith etc but later finds out that they hold shirki beliefs? will all the salaat have to be repeated?

[shkarpet$]

Assalamu alaykum

Br. There are aalims and muftis who have the authority to reply those queries from OP.

Our elders advice us to limit ourselves to dawah and fatwah giving must be done only if you are a mufti.

Let me quote an incident.

Once I consulted an aalim (who is a great scholar, fantastic arabic language skills, great speaker). This great moulana directed me to a less known mufti of the same madrasah.

So there is a protocol. Our elders expect strict discipline in following this protocol.

Dear
I have not given fatwah ok
and what i heard from Mufti that only i told him

think bro
we need unity

[payowlirriply]

Dear
I have not given fatwah ok
and what i heard from Mufti that only i told him

think bro
we need unity

Assalamu alaykum

Masalah is from asalu (question) and the reply is based on the circumstances and the questioner. Whatever we hear need not be spread. That advice is from elders.

I recall one incident. May be Moulana Thanvi RA was against tableeg. A jamaath of common people was sent to meet Moulana. Moulana tested them by asking about few masalahs.

The saathhee replied " we shall ask an aalim".

Then Molana was convinced and said this work is in safe hands and blessed the jamaath.

May be you have missed my reply about the Molana guiding me to a mufti, read that again. Was molana not aware of the masalah, then why did he guide me to less known mufti. Protocol !!!!

[ConoMadura]

Assalaamu `Alaykum wa Rahmatullaah.

I inquired about this Masalah from Bare Hadhrat Maulana Saadiq, and his reply to me was that the Barelvis and Ahbaash are not Kuffaar. They are deviated Bid`atis, but they have not fallen out of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa`ah.

However, one should still abstain from eating meat slaughtered by them, and should one have performed Salaah behind them, he should repeat his Salaah.

[Kolokireo]

while travelling in Mumbai, sometimes I land in Barelvi's masjid for Salah. During Iqamah, they are not allowing us to stand up & they are forcing you to sit when you stand up.
They are giving a dangerous look when you stand up. I get so angry against these bidaathis,

is is the Sunnah of not standing during Iqamah? pls answer

I try not to fight with them, but stay quiet.

But for reasons If I am caught during Iqamah and they try to beat me up, in that case Shall I break their faces to protect me.

In Barelvi Masjids, during Iqamah I come to know that they are bidaathis. Then I try not to follow Imam, hence I keep intention as I pray alone but stand in the Saff not causing fitna by running away. I try to match my ruku and sujood with the people praying in the masjid. Is it valid?

please scholars help me.

[MortgFinsJohnQ]

while travelling in Mumbai, sometimes I land in Barelvi's masjid for Salah. During Iqamah, they are not allowing us to stand up & they are forcing you to sit when you stand up.
They are giving a dangerous look when you stand up. I get so angry against these bidaathis,

is is the Sunnah of not standing during Iqamah? pls answer

I try not to fight with them, but stay quiet.

But for reasons If I am caught during Iqamah and they try to beat me up, in that case Shall I break their faces to protect me.

In Barelvi Masjids, during Iqamah I come to know that they are bidaathis. Then I try not to follow Imam, hence I keep intention as I pray alone but stand in the Saff not causing fitna by running away. I try to match my ruku and sujood with the people praying in the masjid. Is it valid?

please scholars help me.

there is a difference between a bidati in fiqh and a bidati in aqeedah. sure they do celebrate eid milad un nabi however unless you know for certain that they hold that Rasulullah (saws) is omnipotent, omnipresent, or made of nur and not human (or some belief along those lines) you can pray behind them.

if they get angry when you stand during iqamah, then refrain from it and stand when they all do.

[SHaEFU0i]

while travelling in Mumbai, sometimes I land in Barelvi's masjid for Salah. During Iqamah, they are not allowing us to stand up & they are forcing you to sit when you stand up.
They are giving a dangerous look when you stand up. I get so angry against these bidaathis,

is is the Sunnah of not standing during Iqamah? pls answer

I try not to fight with them, but stay quiet.

But for reasons If I am caught during Iqamah and they try to beat me up, in that case Shall I break their faces to protect me.

In Barelvi Masjids, during Iqamah I come to know that they are bidaathis. Then I try not to follow Imam, hence I keep intention as I pray alone but stand in the Saff not causing fitna by running away. I try to match my ruku and sujood with the people praying in the masjid. Is it valid?

please scholars help me.

That happened to me as well when I was in Mumbai a few months back.

One masjid I went to pray Jum'uah in Wadala area was a barelwi one and nobody objected to my standing during iqamah, but all the eyes in the gathering were stuck on me. Whereas, for maghrib Salah in a masjid in Dadar the next day, I was forcibly made to sit. It turned out to be a frown-able moment.