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Old 09-02-2012, 07:58 PM   #1
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Khidr a.s is literally called the green one because of some tradition associating him with the colour Green.

Our teacher Adnan oktar talks about khidr a.s. being the green silhouette seen in eygpt revolutions. He was riding a horse. To see Hazrat Khidr a.s. in silhouette form watch from 0.30 seconds onwards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bszl...feature=relmfu


Japan Earthquake horse man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-R9mQXYq0g
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Old 09-02-2012, 08:15 PM   #2
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Some Sufis have met Khidar (AS).
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:32 PM   #3
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i have always wondered why khidr (as) or jinns who claim to be sahabi/tabieen, do not clarify the aqeedah of the muslims so that we can have a little more unity between us.
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:55 PM   #4
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i have always wondered why khidr (as) or jinns who claim to be sahabi/tabieen, do not clarify the aqeedah of the muslims so that we can have a little more unity between us.
Clarity on which aspects of aqeedah?
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Old 09-02-2012, 09:59 PM   #5
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Clarity on which aspects of aqeedah?
different variations of aqeedah between the differing groups who are constantly at conflict with each other due to these differences.

example... deobandi/salafi/barelwi
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:08 PM   #6
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different variations of aqeedah between the differing groups who are constantly at conflict with each other due to these differences.

example... deobandi/salafi/barelwi
Tough luck! Even if Khidr or any Jinn Sahabi/Tabi'i show up, people are not going to pay heed.

When they not even willing to accept established proofs from Qur'an and Sunnah.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:26 PM   #7
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Tough luck! Even if Khidr or any Jinn Sahabi/Tabi'i show up, people are not going to pay heed.
how do you know?

maybe some people will not listen. but then maybe some people WILL listen.

When they not even willing to accept established proofs from Qur'an and Sunnah.
everyone claims their aqeedah is based on quran and sunnah. the problem is the way different groups interpret the quran and sunnah. if jinns from the salaf or hazrat khidr (as) were to clarify some matters then it would make a big difference.
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Old 09-02-2012, 10:34 PM   #8
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how do you know?

maybe some people will not listen. but then maybe some people WILL listen.

everyone claims their aqeedah is based on quran and sunnah. the problem is the way different groups interpret the quran and sunnah. if jinns from the salaf or hazrat khidr (as) were to clarify some matters then it would make a big difference.
Bringing in Khidr would not be the right choice. His clarifications are not so easy to understand. Look at how difficult it was for Musa (A great Messenger of Allah) to stay in his company. The Ummah is already divided on the status of Khidr ie whether he is a Prophet or not, is he still alive or not, etc.

Secondly, how would one establish a Jinn to be from the Salaf, let alone as a Sahabi or a Tabi'i. Is a testimony of a Jinn valid for us Humans?

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Old 09-02-2012, 10:41 PM   #9
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Bringing in Khidr would not be the right choice. His clarifications are not so easy to understand. Look at how difficult it was for Musa (A great Messenger of Allah) to stay in his company. The Ummah is already divided on the status of Khidr ie whether he is a Prophet or not, is he still alive or not, etc.
why would it be difficult to understand? i have heard from ulama that khidr (as) sometimes appears to people who are lost and guides them the way. his directions are not difficult to understand. so why would anything else be? just because we have a story about khidr (as) teaching a lesson to musa (as) does not mean that his established behaviour is that of riddles and parables.



Secondly, how would one establish a Jinn to be from the Salaf, let alone as a Sahabi or a Tabi'i. Is a testimony of a Jinn valid for us Humans?

i dont know. i am only going by claims made by other people such as alims and scholars and hazrats, who claim that they are in contact with muslim jinns.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:29 PM   #10
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i have always wondered why khidr (as) or jinns who claim to be sahabi/tabieen, do not clarify the aqeedah of the muslims so that we can have a little more unity between us.
Assalamualaikum,

I second this,

There are still sahabhi jinn alive. Recently I came accross a jinn from the time of Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilanee (ra), and actually that jinn lived with Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilanee (ra) till now he is alive.

And another even happened, is that one of the tablighi buzurg came in contact with a muslim jinn from the time of sahaba (ra). And the buzurg asked about the difference between the tablighi work being done now and the tablighi work in the time of sahabah (ra). And the jinn replied that the simple difference was that the effort sahabah (ra) made in the night was more then you are doing now [which means they worshipped more at night].

But in the end of the day, I am myself convinced that deoband are on the right track. If you study the biography of Moulana Rashid Ahmed Gangohi (ra), find the part where he (ra) saw prophet (saw) in dream, and the prophet (saw) questioned him.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:33 PM   #11
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Assalamualaikum,

There are still sahabhi jinn alive. Recently I came accross a jinn from the time of Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilanee (ra), and actually that jinn lived with Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilanee (ra) till now he is alive.
Walaykum salam,

You personally came across a Jinn living from the times of Shaykh Gilani (r.a)?
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:03 AM   #12
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Walaykum salam,

You personally came across a Jinn living from the times of Shaykh Gilani (r.a)?
Assalamualaikum,

not personally, it was that there are some 'amil who are in contact with jinns from their silisila of tassawuf. Its long, but in the end it was that I was a witness, people asked questions, one asked "Paksitan kay halaat kub theek hon gay" [english : I can not translate this in english, if someone can that would be great]

The jinn replied that "jub hum theek hon gay, ajj bahion ka apas main dushmani hay" [english : "when we will correct ourselves, today brothers have hatred for each other]
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:07 AM   #13
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Assalamualaikum,

not personally, it was that there are some 'amil who are in contact with jinns from their silisila of tassawuf. Its long, but in the end it was that I witness, people asked questions, one asked "Paksitan kay halaat kub theek hon gay" [english : I can not translate this in english, if someone can that would be great]

The jinn replied that "jub hum theek hon gay, ajj bahion ka apas main dushmani hay" [english : "when we will correct ourselves, today brothers have hatred for each other]
so basically the jinn was saying we need to be united.

this disunity that we have is because of our different understanding of the deen.

has any amil ever asked a jinn from the salaf as to which is the correct aqeedah and which path should we follow....madhabs or salafism?
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:11 AM   #14
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so basically the jinn was saying we need to be united.

this disunity that we have is because of our different understanding of the deen.

has any amil ever asked a jinn from the salaf as to which is the correct aqeedah and which path should we follow....madhabs or salafism?
Well the jinn was brief and did not talk much. As you may know that there are different jinns, some are muftis, some are normal e.t.c but this was a wali who was with shaykh abdul qadir jilanee (ra), so he was brief. Awliya Allah are thought from their murshid is that when you speak, then speak to the point and not too much.

So in the end in my opnion of what the jinn said, it was not only deeni but normal aswell. Just visit the houses in pakistan and see how much hatred blood brothers, sisters, mother with children, father with children e.t.c have for each other. I have seen alot of this.

And I want to also point out a fact, jelousy is at the peak in pakistan. And thats why there are many many cases of black magic done on people. Even it is on me aswell and my family.

About any 'amil who has asked this, I am not sure. This is what I also want to happen, someone ask a old jinn. Lets make dua that this happens lol.
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:14 AM   #15
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About any 'amil who has asked this, I am not sure. This is what I also want to happen, someone ask a old jinn. Lets make dua that this happens lol.
there are many people who claim they have open access to jinns. cant they just ask them?
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:17 AM   #16
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there are many people who claim they have open access to jinns. cant they just ask them?
Assalamualaikum,

Yes they can ask them. But the problem is that few have came upon this idea, even I did not had this in my mind.
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:43 AM   #17
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the topic changed from al khidr to jin...!

SF is SF

abdals meet al khidr, there are incidents written in fadhail aamal too, in fadhail aamal there is written an incident of al khidr, someone asks him that has he seen any great wali than him, he replies yes and then al khidr says that once he entered some masjid (dont remember probably masjid nabvi ) and there was dars goin on there, there was a man sitting away from the dars and his head was within his knees, al khidr asked him why he was not in the dars, he replied that the people in the dars were listening from an abd (slave) and he (that wali) was listening from Allah...Then al khidr asked him if he was right in his claim than tell him (al khidr) who was he ?...the person (wali) replied that if his farasat (insight) was not wrong than that person was al khidr


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Old 09-03-2012, 01:24 AM   #18
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when i was a kid i started a new job in a different city.

as i was driving there for the first time i got hopelessly lost and didnt now where to go. i was a bit stressed as i was going to be late for work.

i was going round a big round-a-bout and then i saw an elderly man run to the edge of the round-a-bout.

he had a smile on his face and had a bright face.

he started pointing to one of the turn offs on the round-a-about and was indicating that i drive up that road.

i did so and the road lead to my workplace.
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:49 AM   #19
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Assalamualaikum,

Many weird incidents have happened. Even with me.

When I was arriving from saudia back to my country where I live by car, there was no light, no sign, nothing. It was very late at night, and hardly anyone could think anyone would be driving at this time. Just there was totally no sign of anyone.

Al hamdullillah when you make dua of safr, and make dua that Allah (swt) help us reach back to our country, then the nusrat does comes. And out of nowhere I saw a landcruiser coming, arab guy got out of the car wearing pure white thobe. He said "are you lost and are you going to this country?" "we said yes" so he just signaled to follow him. And we followed, we lost him again. But as we progressed further on the road, the man was outside the car pointing towards the small junction, in the middle of the desert. Al hamdullillah through that road, he reached to the place we wanted. And that man left with nothing to say, and to the opposite direction.

What was interesting is that the number plate of that man's car was from the same country where I live. And that man went opposite direction to where to turned. Subhanallah.

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But that was not the purpose of writing my post.

What I want to advice people here just don't get involve in this problem of who's aqeeadah is correct, wether deobandi/brelvi/salafi e.t.c I was a victim of this myself, I sometimes ended up listening qawali thinking this was correct, and other was wrong. And sometimes doing something else. I was totally distressed. Until I met the shaykh who is al hamdullillah guiding me towards the path of ihsan, he simply told me "just dont get in this problem, stay with yourself and do zikr" [or I think it was someone else, other buzurg maybe. I can't remember who he was but this is what he said]

A person gets really distresed which path is correct, and in the end loses hope in islam. And its a common thing I have seen. What we need to do is that avoid this, go and find a mashaykh and do "Allah ..Allah " zikr. Become a wali of Allah (swt). Just look at yourself, try and work hard to make your way to jannah and save yourself from the azaab of qabr.

Inshallah you will then find peace in your life, because this is all duniya, and everything will end one day. Just like Mufti Muhammad Hassan (db) of Jamia Madania said, the only nisbat (connection) that will be left is the connection with Allah (swt). Everything will be fana.

Follow the way of akabir of deoband have set [way of Ahlus sunnah wal jama'a], do tabligh , do tazkiya and finally become a jannati.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:09 AM   #20
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Follow the way of akabir of deoband have set [way of Ahlus sunnah wal jama'a], do tabligh , do tazkiya and finally become a jannati.
what about barelwis? should they carry on following raza khan?
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