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**Everwondopedo** · 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM

Salaam,

Does anyone remember the story of musa (as) when he met khidhir (a.s) ?

does anyone remember the story of dhul qurnayn when he went with khidir (as) to look for the fountain of 'the Eternal Youth ?

and the story of ouy prophet muhammad (saw) when he passed away and members of his family heard khidhir (as) comforting them ?

Is khidir (as) still alive ????

i have heard loads of stories, some people say he wonders the earth carrying out dutys for allah just like he was doing when musa (as) visited him....and thers say he wonders the earth visiting pios people and sharing his knowledge ....

what do you think ???

and if you heard similar stories please share

**UHlVExs7** · 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM

khidr is alive the interesting question is has anyone met him?

now that would be some nice bed time story to tell the kids

**oplapofffe** · 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM

Salaam,

Does anyone remember the story of musa (as) when he met khidhir (a.s) ?

does anyone remember the story of dhul qurnayn when he went with khidir (as) to look for the fountain of 'the Eternal Youth ?

and the story of ouy prophet muhammad (saw) when he passed away and members of his family heard khidhir (as) comforting them ?

Is khidir (as) still alive ????

i have heard loads of stories, some people say he wonders the earth carrying out dutys for allah just like he was doing when musa (as) visited him....and thers say he wonders the earth visiting pios people and sharing his knowledge ....

what do you think ???

and if you heard similar stories please share

http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/khidar.htm

W-Salam,

In the Maktoobat (letters) of Shaykh Ahmed Sirhindi aka Mujaddid Alf Thani (RA) his meeting with Khadir (RA) and Sayyidina Ilyaas (AS) [the prophet] is discussed.

This is his (RA)'s biography:

http://www.central-mosque.com/biogra...idalfthani.htm

**Tusanoc** · 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM

Assalamu Alaykum,

Yes Nabi al-Khidr (alayhi assalam) is very much alive and many Awliya through out the past have met with him.

I have a question about the article posted above. It says that Imam Nawawi (rahmat'Allahi alayh) denied him being alive. I have a quote saying that Imam Sakhawi said, “It is well-known that al-Nawawi used to meet with al-Khadr and converse with him among many other unveilings (mukashafat).”

The source given is Tarjima Shaykh al-Islam Qutb al-Awliya al-Kiram wa Faqih al-Anam Muhyi al-Sunnah wa Mumit al-Bidah Abi Zakariyah Muhyiuddin al-Nawawi.

Is this Hafeth al-Sakhawis (rahmat'Allahi alayh) book?

wassalam

**Cheeniandab** · 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM

so khidhir (a.s) and ilyas (a.s) are still alive ??

I have heard this before,

do you think the two have met ?

and are they going to play any major roles when imam mehdi and isa (a.s) appear ????

**rionetrozasa** · 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM

Assalaam Walaykum

I personally know 3 Talibs of my sheikh who met Sheikh Kidhr (AS), although they did not know who he was at the time.

They were in the mountains in Pakistan and stoped by a creek to make wudhu. as they kneeled down to the waters edge they saw an old man on the other side of the creek, they exchanged Salaams, and the man asked if they were Talibs of Sheikh Mubarek Ali Shah Jillani. They replied yes and he said "mashAllah".

They made salaat and asked the Sheikh about this man and if he knew him. Shah JI replied "Yes, this was Sheikh Kidhr(AS)"

**TimoDass** · 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM

Hope some one answers bro Rifai's question concerning shaykh Nawawi (

) and his opinion on khidr...

**Jellowstrom** · 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM

Alaykum salam

T h e A n s w e r : He is alive, but there are five degrees of life. He is at the second degree. It is because of this that some religious scholars have been doubtful
about it.

The First Level of Life is that of our life, which is very restricted.
The Second Level of Life is that of the lives of Khidr and Ilyas (May God grant them
peace), which is free to an extent. That is to say, they can be present in numerous places
at the same time. They are not permanently restricted by the requirements of humanity
like us. They can eat and drink like us when they want to, but are not compelled to like
we are. The saints are those who uncover and witness the realities of creation, and the
reports of their adventures with Khidr are unanimous and elucidate and prove this level of
life. There is even one degree of sainthood which is called ‘the degree of Khidr.’ A saint
who reaches this degree receives instruction from Khidr and meets with him. But
sometimes the one at that degree is mistakenly thought to be Khidr himself.

The various levels of life are further explained here inshaallah. http://www.wordvision.org.au/Risale/...7;20Letter.pdf

**zdlupikkkdi** · 09-02-2012, 06:58 PM

Khidr a.s is literally called the green one because of some tradition associating him with the colour Green.

Our teacher Adnan oktar talks about khidr a.s. being the green silhouette seen in eygpt revolutions. He was riding a horse. To see Hazrat Khidr a.s. in silhouette form watch from 0.30 seconds onwards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bszl...feature=relmfu

Japan Earthquake horse man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-R9mQXYq0g

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**zzyytt** · 10-08-2018, 05:38 AM

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**FourEsters** · 09-02-2012, 07:15 PM

Some Sufis have met Khidar (AS).

**fotodemujerahldesnugdo** · 09-02-2012, 08:32 PM

i have always wondered why khidr (as) or jinns who claim to be sahabi/tabieen, do not clarify the aqeedah of the muslims so that we can have a little more unity between us.

**OmqMZtkv** · 09-02-2012, 08:55 PM

i have always wondered why khidr (as) or jinns who claim to be sahabi/tabieen, do not clarify the aqeedah of the muslims so that we can have a little more unity between us.

Clarity on which aspects of aqeedah?

**KellyMP** · 09-02-2012, 08:59 PM

Clarity on which aspects of aqeedah?

different variations of aqeedah between the differing groups who are constantly at conflict with each other due to these differences.

example... deobandi/salafi/barelwi

**Ambassador** · 09-02-2012, 09:08 PM

different variations of aqeedah between the differing groups who are constantly at conflict with each other due to these differences.

example... deobandi/salafi/barelwi

Tough luck! Even if Khidr or any Jinn Sahabi/Tabi'i show up, people are not going to pay heed.

When they not even willing to accept established proofs from Qur'an and Sunnah.

**ttiokjbnhjjillp** · 09-02-2012, 09:26 PM

Tough luck! Even if Khidr or any Jinn Sahabi/Tabi'i show up, people are not going to pay heed.

how do you know?

maybe some people will not listen. but then maybe some people WILL listen.

When they not even willing to accept established proofs from Qur'an and Sunnah.

everyone claims their aqeedah is based on quran and sunnah. the problem is the way different groups interpret the quran and sunnah. if jinns from the salaf or hazrat khidr (as) were to clarify some matters then it would make a big difference.

**zoolissentesy** · 09-02-2012, 09:34 PM

how do you know?

maybe some people will not listen. but then maybe some people WILL listen.

everyone claims their aqeedah is based on quran and sunnah. the problem is the way different groups interpret the quran and sunnah. if jinns from the salaf or hazrat khidr (as) were to clarify some matters then it would make a big difference.

Bringing in Khidr

would not be the right choice. His

clarifications are not so easy to understand. Look at how difficult it was for Musa

(A great Messenger of Allah) to stay in his company. The Ummah is already divided on the status of Khidr

ie whether he is a Prophet or not, is he still alive or not, etc.

Secondly, how would one establish a Jinn to be from the Salaf, let alone as a Sahabi or a Tabi'i. Is a testimony of a Jinn valid for us Humans?

**Knongargoapex** · 09-02-2012, 09:41 PM

Bringing in Khidr would not be the right choice. His clarifications are not so easy to understand. Look at how difficult it was for Musa (A great Messenger of Allah) to stay in his company. The Ummah is already divided on the status of Khidr ie whether he is a Prophet or not, is he still alive or not, etc.

why would it be difficult to understand? i have heard from ulama that khidr (as) sometimes appears to people who are lost and guides them the way. his directions are not difficult to understand. so why would anything else be? just because we have a story about khidr (as) teaching a lesson to musa (as) does not mean that his established behaviour is that of riddles and parables.

Secondly, how would one establish a Jinn to be from the Salaf, let alone as a Sahabi or a Tabi'i. Is a testimony of a Jinn valid for us Humans?

i dont know. i am only going by claims made by other people such as alims and scholars and hazrats, who claim that they are in contact with muslim jinns.

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Everwondopedo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	Al khidir aka the green man Salaam, Does anyone remember the story of musa (as) when he met khidhir (a.s) ? does anyone remember the story of dhul qurnayn when he went with khidir (as) to look for the fountain of 'the Eternal Youth ? and the story of ouy prophet muhammad (saw) when he passed away and members of his family heard khidhir (as) comforting them ? Is khidir (as) still alive ???? i have heard loads of stories, some people say he wonders the earth carrying out dutys for allah just like he was doing when musa (as) visited him....and thers say he wonders the earth visiting pios people and sharing his knowledge .... what do you think ??? and if you heard similar stories please share Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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UHlVExs7 Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 454 Senior Member	khidr is alive the interesting question is has anyone met him? now that would be some nice bed time story to tell the kids Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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oplapofffe Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 530 Senior Member	Salaam, Does anyone remember the story of musa (as) when he met khidhir (a.s) ? does anyone remember the story of dhul qurnayn when he went with khidir (as) to look for the fountain of 'the Eternal Youth ? and the story of ouy prophet muhammad (saw) when he passed away and members of his family heard khidhir (as) comforting them ? Is khidir (as) still alive ???? i have heard loads of stories, some people say he wonders the earth carrying out dutys for allah just like he was doing when musa (as) visited him....and thers say he wonders the earth visiting pios people and sharing his knowledge .... what do you think ??? and if you heard similar stories please share http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/khidar.htm W-Salam, In the Maktoobat (letters) of Shaykh Ahmed Sirhindi aka Mujaddid Alf Thani (RA) his meeting with Khadir (RA) and Sayyidina Ilyaas (AS) [the prophet] is discussed. This is his (RA)'s biography: http://www.central-mosque.com/biogra...idalfthani.htm Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Tusanoc Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 483 Senior Member	Assalamu Alaykum, Yes Nabi al-Khidr (alayhi assalam) is very much alive and many Awliya through out the past have met with him. I have a question about the article posted above. It says that Imam Nawawi (rahmat'Allahi alayh) denied him being alive. I have a quote saying that Imam Sakhawi said, “It is well-known that al-Nawawi used to meet with al-Khadr and converse with him among many other unveilings (mukashafat).” The source given is Tarjima Shaykh al-Islam Qutb al-Awliya al-Kiram wa Faqih al-Anam Muhyi al-Sunnah wa Mumit al-Bidah Abi Zakariyah Muhyiuddin al-Nawawi. Is this Hafeth al-Sakhawis (rahmat'Allahi alayh) book? wassalam Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Cheeniandab Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 416 Senior Member	so khidhir (a.s) and ilyas (a.s) are still alive ?? I have heard this before, do you think the two have met ? and are they going to play any major roles when imam mehdi and isa (a.s) appear ???? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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rionetrozasa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 385 Senior Member	Assalaam Walaykum I personally know 3 Talibs of my sheikh who met Sheikh Kidhr (AS), although they did not know who he was at the time. They were in the mountains in Pakistan and stoped by a creek to make wudhu. as they kneeled down to the waters edge they saw an old man on the other side of the creek, they exchanged Salaams, and the man asked if they were Talibs of Sheikh Mubarek Ali Shah Jillani. They replied yes and he said "mashAllah". They made salaat and asked the Sheikh about this man and if he knew him. Shah JI replied "Yes, this was Sheikh Kidhr(AS)" Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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TimoDass Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 641 Senior Member	Hope some one answers bro Rifai's question concerning shaykh Nawawi () and his opinion on khidr... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Jellowstrom Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 564 Senior Member	Alaykum salam T h e A n s w e r : He is alive, but there are five degrees of life. He is at the second degree. It is because of this that some religious scholars have been doubtful about it. The First Level of Life is that of our life, which is very restricted. The Second Level of Life is that of the lives of Khidr and Ilyas (May God grant them peace), which is free to an extent. That is to say, they can be present in numerous places at the same time. They are not permanently restricted by the requirements of humanity like us. They can eat and drink like us when they want to, but are not compelled to like we are. The saints are those who uncover and witness the realities of creation, and the reports of their adventures with Khidr are unanimous and elucidate and prove this level of life. There is even one degree of sainthood which is called ‘the degree of Khidr.’ A saint who reaches this degree receives instruction from Khidr and meets with him. But sometimes the one at that degree is mistakenly thought to be Khidr himself. The various levels of life are further explained here inshaallah. http://www.wordvision.org.au/Risale/...7;20Letter.pdf Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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zdlupikkkdi Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 426 Senior Member	Khidr a.s is literally called the green one because of some tradition associating him with the colour Green. Our teacher Adnan oktar talks about khidr a.s. being the green silhouette seen in eygpt revolutions. He was riding a horse. To see Hazrat Khidr a.s. in silhouette form watch from 0.30 seconds onwards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bszl...feature=relmfu Japan Earthquake horse man http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-R9mQXYq0g Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-02-2012, 07:15 PM	#13
FourEsters Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 447 Senior Member	Some Sufis have met Khidar (AS). Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-02-2012, 08:32 PM	#14
fotodemujerahldesnugdo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 462 Senior Member	i have always wondered why khidr (as) or jinns who claim to be sahabi/tabieen, do not clarify the aqeedah of the muslims so that we can have a little more unity between us. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-02-2012, 08:55 PM	#15
OmqMZtkv Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	i have always wondered why khidr (as) or jinns who claim to be sahabi/tabieen, do not clarify the aqeedah of the muslims so that we can have a little more unity between us. Clarity on which aspects of aqeedah? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-02-2012, 08:59 PM	#16
KellyMP Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	Clarity on which aspects of aqeedah? different variations of aqeedah between the differing groups who are constantly at conflict with each other due to these differences. example... deobandi/salafi/barelwi Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-02-2012, 09:08 PM	#17
Ambassador Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 394 Senior Member	different variations of aqeedah between the differing groups who are constantly at conflict with each other due to these differences. example... deobandi/salafi/barelwi Tough luck! Even if Khidr or any Jinn Sahabi/Tabi'i show up, people are not going to pay heed. When they not even willing to accept established proofs from Qur'an and Sunnah. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-02-2012, 09:26 PM	#18
ttiokjbnhjjillp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 436 Senior Member	Tough luck! Even if Khidr or any Jinn Sahabi/Tabi'i show up, people are not going to pay heed. how do you know? maybe some people will not listen. but then maybe some people WILL listen. When they not even willing to accept established proofs from Qur'an and Sunnah. everyone claims their aqeedah is based on quran and sunnah. the problem is the way different groups interpret the quran and sunnah. if jinns from the salaf or hazrat khidr (as) were to clarify some matters then it would make a big difference. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-02-2012, 09:34 PM	#19
zoolissentesy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 484 Senior Member	how do you know? maybe some people will not listen. but then maybe some people WILL listen. everyone claims their aqeedah is based on quran and sunnah. the problem is the way different groups interpret the quran and sunnah. if jinns from the salaf or hazrat khidr (as) were to clarify some matters then it would make a big difference. Bringing in Khidr would not be the right choice. His clarifications are not so easy to understand. Look at how difficult it was for Musa (A great Messenger of Allah) to stay in his company. The Ummah is already divided on the status of Khidr ie whether he is a Prophet or not, is he still alive or not, etc. Secondly, how would one establish a Jinn to be from the Salaf, let alone as a Sahabi or a Tabi'i. Is a testimony of a Jinn valid for us Humans? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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09-02-2012, 09:41 PM	#20
Knongargoapex Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 444 Senior Member	Bringing in Khidr would not be the right choice. His clarifications are not so easy to understand. Look at how difficult it was for Musa (A great Messenger of Allah) to stay in his company. The Ummah is already divided on the status of Khidr ie whether he is a Prophet or not, is he still alive or not, etc. why would it be difficult to understand? i have heard from ulama that khidr (as) sometimes appears to people who are lost and guides them the way. his directions are not difficult to understand. so why would anything else be? just because we have a story about khidr (as) teaching a lesson to musa (as) does not mean that his established behaviour is that of riddles and parables. Secondly, how would one establish a Jinn to be from the Salaf, let alone as a Sahabi or a Tabi'i. Is a testimony of a Jinn valid for us Humans? i dont know. i am only going by claims made by other people such as alims and scholars and hazrats, who claim that they are in contact with muslim jinns. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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