[espenijij]

This is a nation that is almost 100% Muslims but also like Bangladesh elected a woman more than once to be its leader.

Does anyone know how Pakistan can retain its sovereignty and possibly be a role model to other countries?

What is it that Indonesia or Malaysia has that Pakistan doesn't?

How influential is Pakistan around the world in terms of social political and economic matters? (outside the gulf and middle east)

Is it fair to say that Pakistan is just another failed state but this time a muslim majority failed state whose only gamble is nuclear bomb and that's it.

[Sandra_18X]

This is a nation that is almost 100% Muslims but also like Bangladesh elected a woman more than once to be its leader.

Does anyone know how Pakistan can retain its sovereignty and possibly be a role model to other countries?

What is it that Indonesia or Malaysia has that Pakistan doesn't?

How influential is Pakistan around the world in terms of social political and economic matters? (outside the gulf and middle east)

Is it fair to say that Pakistan is just another failed state but this time a muslim majority failed state whose only gamble is nuclear bomb and that's it.

As a Paksitani and having been lived there,

I felt our biggest problem is that we have started to worship money, sex,fraud,lies, laziness and have left the worship of Allah. This has brought tremendous failure.

The day we bring back the worship of Allah and kick out all those idols from our hearts, that day Pakistan can rise up again.

Then our education system, madaris, institutions, economy, government will inshAllah start to be of benefit to us.

Just my 2 cents

[dmitrynts]

This is a nation that is almost 100% Muslims but also like Bangladesh elected a woman more than once to be its leader.

The problem with Pakistan is not that it elected woman as its leader, the problem is that Pakistanis repeatedly elect Munafiqs.

[lagunaEl]

The problem with Pakistan is not that it elected woman as its leader, the problem is that Pakistanis Muslims repeatedly elect Munafiqs.

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[Zdmlscid]

May Allah swt unite Pakistan and allow the true message of Islam enter the people's hearts

[MP+4]

Pakistan is NOT a MUSLIM state

Pakistan is a FAILED state

Pakistani Muslims are just failures since they elected those in power.

[Sensbachtal]

As a Paksitani and having been lived there,

I felt our biggest problem is that we have started to worship money, sex,fraud,lies, laziness and have left the worship of Allah. This has brought tremendous failure.

The day we bring back the worship of Allah and kick out all those idols from our hearts, that day Pakistan can rise up again.

Then our education system, madaris, institutions, economy, government will inshAllah start to be of benefit to us.

Just my 2 cents

Corrupt people are easily exploited by the Jewish banking cartel. Check this thread.

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...or-the-Indians

[elossenen]

Pakistan is NOT a MUSLIM state

Pakistan is a FAILED state

Pakistani Muslims are just failures since they elected those in power.

Generalization is the greatest mistake done by many people like you regarding Pakistan. This country contains different types of people and they are more vigorous than many other nations. Many great Ulama, Mujahideen and pious people always remain in this country. On the other hand great hypocrite, evil and oppressors also belong to this state.

[Dweplyododo]

This is a nation that is almost 100% Muslims but also like Bangladesh elected a woman more than once to be its leader.

Does anyone know how Pakistan can retain its sovereignty and possibly be a role model to other countries?

What is it that Indonesia or Malaysia has that Pakistan doesn't?

How influential is Pakistan around the world in terms of social political and economic matters? (outside the gulf and middle east)

Is it fair to say that Pakistan is just another failed state but this time a muslim majority failed state whose only gamble is nuclear bomb and that's it.

The prime minister/president/government/leader doesn't represent the whole nation.

[Pharmadryg]

Generalization is the greatest mistake done by many people like you regarding Pakistan. This country contains different types of people and they are more vigorous than many other nations. Many great Ulama, Mujahideen and pious people always remain in this country. On the other hand great hypocrite, evil and oppressors also belong to this state.

Majority of Pakistanis are Muslims

The leadership in Pakistan was voted in after they won votes from the Muslim majority.

[rowneigerie]

The prime minister/president/government/leader doesn't represent the whole nation.

But they are selected by the people themselves for representation? aren't they?

[mp3 free]

Generalization is the greatest mistake done by many people like you regarding Pakistan. This country contains different types of people and they are more vigorous than many other nations. Many great Ulama, Mujahideen and pious people always remain in this country. On the other hand great hypocrite, evil and oppressors also belong to this state.

(not everyone voted. not everyone supports this govt and democracy in general)

[xIuvyAuT]

(not everyone voted. not everyone supports this govt and democracy in general)

true, not everyone voted but majority of Muslims did that's why you have these leaders in power doing what they told the electorate they will.

[CialisBestPrice]

true, not everyone voted but majority of Muslims did that's why you have these leaders in power doing what they told the electorate they will.

The question that revolves around my mind in such discussions is:

Is voting Islamically permissible knowing that people like Zardari, Nawaz Sharif, PML-Q, ANP and others will come into power who will always implement democracy rather than Shariah?

[tilmprarnerit]

This is a nation that is almost 100% Muslims but also like Bangladesh elected a woman more than once to be its leader.

Does anyone know how Pakistan can retain its sovereignty and possibly be a role model to other countries?

What is it that Indonesia or Malaysia has that Pakistan doesn't?

How influential is Pakistan around the world in terms of social political and economic matters? (outside the gulf and middle east)

Is it fair to say that Pakistan is just another failed state but this time a muslim majority failed state whose only gamble is nuclear bomb and that's it.

Dear Brother

The following are my views

1. The map which you have shown just now is incorrect. Jammu and Kashmir is the integral part of India and will be always the Integral part of India.
2. Muslims of India are far more religious and closer to deen than muslims of Pakistan. So instead of looking at Indonesia and Malaysia which is part away from them, they should look at Indian Muslims and try to learn from them.
3. Electing a Shias to helm of Power (Butto, Zardari, etc etc) will worsen the problem and not solve the problem.
4. Pakistan can never will be role model to any other country as probably one of the few islamic country where bombs are blasted in mosques
5. Pakistan is only a puppet of United States of America and the day will come very soon when USA will also desert Pakistan.
6. Nuclear Bomb will always lead to failure and really Pakistan is a failed state. The Best Nuclear Bomb in the World is "THE HOLY QURAN" and if you leave that then nobody can stop you from failures.....

The above posts are just my true views and not in any way to hurt the sentiments of my fellow brothers.

[teewHettive]

Dear Brother

The following are my views

1. The map which you have shown just now is incorrect. Jammu and Kashmir is the integral part of India and will be always the Integral part of India.
2. Muslims of India are far more religious and closer to deen than muslims of Pakistan. So instead of looking at Indonesia and Malaysia which is part away from them, they should look at Indian Muslims and try to learn from them.
3. Electing a Shias to helm of Power (Butto, Zardari, etc etc) will worsen the problem and not solve the problem.
4. Pakistan can never will be role model to any other country as probably one of the few islamic country where bombs are blasted in mosques
5. Pakistan is only a puppet of United States of America and the day will come very soon when USA will also desert Pakistan.
6. Nuclear Bomb will always lead to failure and really Pakistan is a failed state. The Best Nuclear Bomb in the World is "THE HOLY QURAN" and if you leave that then nobody can stop you from failures.....

The above posts are just my true views and not in any way to hurt the sentiments of my fellow brothers.

Pakistan is the bait used by the London based Jewish central bankers to trap the emotional and ignorant Muslims into an Utiopia and thereby permanently weaken India so that it can never rise up as great nation or become a threat to the one world government .

If India was left as a single country, within a decade after 1947 , the pious Muslims in India could have taken a strong position in the political power of the country.
But the central bankers's was to cut the Indian pie into several pieces each of which will be managed or eaten by the children of Lord Macaulay. They all love usury and banking !!
Check this.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_...Baron_Macaulay


It is impossible for us, with our limited means, to attempt to educate the body of the people. We must at present do our best to form a class who may be interpreters between us and the millions whom we govern; a class of persons, Indian in blood and colour, but English in taste, in opinions, in morals, and in intellect. To that class we may leave it to refine the vernacular dialects of the country, to enrich those dialects with terms of science borrowed from the Western nomenclature, and to render them by degrees fit vehicles for conveying knowledge to the great mass of the population

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[ptmQqoxw]

1. The map which you have shown just now is incorrect. Jammu and Kashmir is the integral part of India and will be always the Integral part of India.

this is nationalism.

rest of your points are pretty much accurate.

[thakitt]

Butto and Zardari were/are shia? I did not know that.

[LindaSmithIV]

Butto and Zardari were/are shia? I did not know that.

Shias who were voted in by majority Sunnis

aint that something?

[BoarmomorurrY]

IMHO, the problem is that people still think as separate tribes. Balochis, Sindhis, Punjabis etc.

I've heard almost 60 years after independence, there is still division between Muhajirs (people immigrated from India in 1947) and locals? The division still exists after this long?

This kind of division is easy for corrupt politicians to exploit. "If you don't follow me the Balochis will eat you." "Why are these newcomers from India taking our jobs? Vote for me."