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Old 01-09-2012, 09:05 AM   #1
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So Bro; are you claiming to have a hidden book that has been revealed to you?
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:12 AM   #2
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I am still waiting for your answer. You have tried to stop a man from following the prophet's commands. So you have put doubts into some peoples hearts. If I was an honorable person I would ask forgiveness and repent. If that hadiyth is correct as I have presented it then you are in serious trouble. I don't know what you and your kind are doing here 'spreading' the religion of Islaam. Why don't you at least go an learn one book of hadiyth. You seem to know 'Absolutely Nothing.' I am definitely going to put this story in my books and websites. "Pick up a stone to stone a truthful man who speaks the words of the prophet (S+)."
Your points have been noted. These will be given due consideration.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #3
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Default Destruction of The Arabs !!! About to happen or not? Prophecies of the Prophet (S+).
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This is not an anti-Arab thread or a pro-anybody thread. It's purpose is to analyze data foretold by the Prophet(S+) 1400 years ago as recorded in the authoritative 'ahaadiyth books. Here we shall discuss the prophecies relating to the destruction of the Arabs at the end of our era called the Hour or as_saa"ah as it is said in the Arabic of the Qur'aan and the 'ahaadiyth (hadiyths). Whatever thoughts these prophecies might bring into our minds or whatever we might think we might have gathered from it we say "It may be that what is transpiring might be a trial from ALLAAH(A*) and He is the One who knows and we do not know. And praise be to ALLAAH (A*) and blessings and peace be upon the one he sent with the religion of truth to proclaim it and make it become victorious over all powers of allegiance and influence... aamiyn.
In the next post I shall present the first prophecy inshaa allaah.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #4
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Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 5991 Narrated by Talhah ibn Malik
Allah's Messenger (saws) said, "One of the signs of the approach of the Last Hour will be the destruction of the Arabs."
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #5
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Sunan Abu-Dawud. 4269 Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas'ud:

The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If only one day of this world remained. Allah would lengthen that day (according to the version of Za'idah), till He raised up in it a man who belongs to me or to my family whose father's name is the same as my father's, who will fill the earth with equity and justice as it has been filled with oppression and tyranny (according to the version of Fitr). Sufyan's version says: The world will not pass away before the Arabs are ruled by a man of my family whose name will be the same as mine.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #6
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Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 5364 Narrated byHudhayfah

The Prophet (P+) said, "The last hour will not come till you kill your leader, fight together with your swords, and your worst ones inherit your worldly goods."


to be continued inshaa allaah
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #7
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are you the hidden book guy from this site? http://www.thehiddenbook.net/kitaabH...20-%20Copy.swf
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #8
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The sources you are referencing are incorrect, they are:
Sunan At Tirmidhi, Book 52, Chapter 143, Hadith #3956.
Sunan At Tirmidhi, Book 36 (Kitab Al Fitan), Chapter 9, Hadith #2177.

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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #9
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(1) And those who made excuses from the bedouins came (to you, O Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم) asking your permission to exempt them (from the battle), and those who had lied to Allah and His Messenger sat at home (without asking the permission for it); a painful torment will seize those of them who disbelieve.
( سورة التوبة , At-Taubah, Chapter #9, Verse #90)
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #10
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Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 5991 Narrated by Talhah ibn Malik
Allah's Messenger (saws) said, "One of the signs of the approach of the Last Hour will be the destruction of the Arabs."


So Amiyr, how does this 'sign' fall into the timeline between now and the Last Hour, according to scholarly opinion?
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #11
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fight together with your swords -------
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #12
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The sources you are referencing are incorrect, they are:
Sunan At Tirmidhi, Book 52, Chapter 143, Hadith #3956.
Sunan At Tirmidhi, Book 36 (Kitab Al Fitan), Chapter 9, Hadith #2177.

Online Source: http://www.weebly.com/uploads/1/0/4/...-english_1.pdf
as_salaamu "alaykum

The source you have used is correct. The source I have chosen to use here is also correct. I will also give you another source direct from an Arabic website different to how we have located the hadiyth. But everyone has exactly quoted the right thing. If you punch into Google Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 5364 you will see a number of websites use as I have chosen to use here.

Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 5364 Narrated byHudhayfah

The Prophet (P+) said, "The last hour will not come till you kill your leader, fight together with your swords, and your worst ones inherit your worldly goods."
If you punch into Google the following Arabic سنن الترمذي you will come to the Arabic website www.al-eman.com then you will find the following contents
كتاب الطهارة عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الصلاة
كتاب الزكاة عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الصيام عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الحج عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الجنائز عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب النكاح عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الرضاع
كتاب الطلاق واللعان عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب البيوع عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الأحكام عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الديات عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الحدود عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الصيد والذبائح عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الأضاحى عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب النذور والأيمان عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب السير عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب فضائل الجهاد عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الجهاد عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب اللباس
كتاب الأطعمة عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الأشربة عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب البر والصلة عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الطب عن رسول اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الفرائض عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الوصايا عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الولاء والهبة عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب القدر عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الفتن عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الرؤيا عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الشهادات عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الزهد عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب صفة القيامة والرقائق والورع عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب صفة الجنة عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب صفة جهنم عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الإيمان عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب العلم عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
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كتاب الأدب عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الأمثال عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب فضائل القرآن عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب القراءات عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب تفسير القرآن عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب الدعوات عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب المناقب عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم
كتاب العلل

If you click the highlighted كتاب الفتن عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم you will find the following

9 - باب مَا جَاءَ فِي الأَمْرِ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَالنَّهْىِ عَنِ الْمُنْكَرِ ‏‏
2323 - حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ أَبِي عَمْرٍو، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ الأَنْصَارِيِّ، عَنْ حُذَيْفَةَ بْنِ الْيَمَانِ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏"‏ وَالَّذِي نَفْسِي بِيَدِهِ لَتَأْمُرُنَّ بِالْمَعْرُوفِ وَلَتَنْهَوُنَّ عَنِ الْمُنْكَرِ أَوْ لَيُوشِكَنَّ اللَّهُ أَنْ يَبْعَثَ عَلَيْكُمْ عِقَابًا مِنْهُ ثُمَّ تَدْعُونَهُ فَلاَ يُسْتَجَابُ لَكُمْ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ ‏.‏
2324 - حَدَّثَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ حُجْرٍ، أَخْبَرَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ أَبِي عَمْرٍو، بِهَذَا الإِسْنَادِ نَحْوَهُ ‏.‏
2325 - حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْعَزِيزِ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ، عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ أَبِي عَمْرٍو، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، وَهُوَ ابْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ الأَنْصَارِيُّ الأَشْهَلِيُّ عَنْ حُذَيْفَةَ بْنِ الْيَمَانِ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏"‏ وَالَّذِي نَفْسِي بِيَدِهِ لاَ تَقُومُ السَّاعَةُ حَتَّى تَقْتُلُوا إِمَامَكُمْ وَتَجْتَلِدُوا بِأَسْيَافِكُمْ وَيَرِثَ دُنْيَاكُمْ شِرَارُكُمْ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ إِنَّمَا نَعْرِفُهُ مِنْ حَدِيثِ عَمْرِو بْنِ أَبِي عَمْرٍو

There it is recorded as AT-Tirmidhi 29 9 2325 different from how we have quoted. This is the problem. We need to standardize or otherwise have to quote all references or it will conflict with others. I would like to quote this hadiyth to indicate that it might be that none are on the wrong track where this matter is concerned. May ALLAAH(A*) guide us all aright inshaa allaah.

4706. It is related that 'Umar ibn al-Khattab was heard to say, "I heard Hisham ibn Hakim reciting Surat al-Furqan while the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, was alive. I listened to his recitation and he was reciting it in various modes which the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, had not recited. I almost grabbed him in the prayer, but I waited until he said the salam [to end the prayer]. Then I grabbed by his cloak and demanded, 'Who recited to you this sura which I heard you reciting?' He answered, 'The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, recited it to me.' I said, 'You lied! The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, recited it to me differently to how you recited!' So I led him off to the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, and said, 'I heard this one reciting Surat al-Furqan in a different way to how you recited it to me!' The Messenger of Allah , may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, 'Release him. Recite, Hisham.' So he recited it to him in the way which I had heard him reciting.' The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, 'That is how it was revealed.' Then he said, 'Recite, 'Umar,' and I recited it in the recitation he had taught me. The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, *'That is how it was revealed. This Qur'an was revealed in seven modes, so recite whatever you find easy of it.'"

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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #13
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are you the hidden book guy from this site? http://www.thehiddenbook.net/kitaabH...20-%20Copy.swf
as_salaamu "alaykum

Yes. It is a little video I have made to show especially Christians and Jews how to rise to the script of ALLAAH (A*). That is only a pixel of the big picture.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #14
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So Amiyr, how does this 'sign' fall into the timeline between now and the Last Hour, according to scholarly opinion?
salaam+

After having quoted all the relevant 'ahaadiyth here, we will be able to discuss further inshaa allaah. In the meantime do you have knowledge which you would like to add for our benefit.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #15
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(1) And those who made excuses from the bedouins came (to you, O Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم) asking your permission to exempt them (from the battle), and those who had lied to Allah and His Messenger sat at home (without asking the permission for it); a painful torment will seize those of them who disbelieve.
( سورة التوبة , At-Taubah, Chapter #9, Verse #90)
This is a bit strong. I will go through it again.

Do you think this is a reflection of Arabs today?
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #16
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continued from post #4

Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 5401 Narrated by Abdullah ibn Amr

Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said,

"There will be civil strife which will wipe out the Arabs, and their slain will go to Hell. During it the tongue will be more severe than blows of the sword."

Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah transmitted it.

to be continued inshaa allaah
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #17
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continued from post #4

Sahih Muslim 7035 Umm Sharik reported
that the messenger of Allah said:
"The people will flee from Dajjal till they will take shelter in the mountains." Umm Sharik said that she asked: "Where will be the Arabs at this time?" He answered: "They will be few."

to be continued inshaa allaah
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #18
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Sahih Muslim 6853
'Iyad b. Himar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), while delivering a sermon one day, said:
Behold, my Lord commanded me that I should teach you which you do not know and which He has taught me today. (He has instructed thus): The property which I have conferred upon them is lawful for them. I have created My servants as one having a natural inclination to the worship of Allah but it is Satan who turns them away from the right religion and he makes unlawful what has been declared lawful for them and he commands them to ascribe partnership with Re, although he has no justification for that. And verily, Allah looked towards the people of the world and He showed hatred for the Arabs and the non-Arabs, but with the exception of some remnants from the People of the Book. And He (further) said: I have sent thee (the Holy Prophet) in order to put you to test and put (those to test) through you. And I sent the Book (al_kitaab) to you which cannot be washed away by water, so that you may recite it while in the state of wakefulness or sleep. Verily, Allah commanded me to burn (kill) the Quraish. I said: My Lord, they would break my head (like the tearing) of bread, and Allah said: You turn them out as they turned you out, you fight against them and We shall help you in this, you should spend and you would be conferred upon. You send an army and I would send an army five times greater than that. Fight against those who disobey you along with those who obey you. The inmates of Paradise are three: One who wields authority and is just and fair, one who Is truthful and has been endowed with power to do good deeds. And the person who is merciful and kind hearted towards his relatives and to every pious Muslim, and one who does not stretch his hand in spite of having a large family to support. And He said: The inmates of Hell are five: the weak who lack power to (avoid evil), the (carefree) who pursue (everything irrespective of the fact that it is good or evil) and who do not have any care for their family or for their wealth. And those dishonest whose greed cannot be concealed even in the case of minor things. And the third who betray you, morning and evening, in regard to your family and your property. He also made a mention of the miser and the liar and those who are in the habit of abusing people and using obscene and foul language. Abu Ghassan in his narration did not make mention of "Spend and there would be spent for you."

to be continued inshaa allaah
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continued from post #4

Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 5401 Narrated by Abdullah ibn Amr

Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said,

"There will be civil strife which will wipe out the Arabs, and their slain will go to Hell. During it the tongue will be more severe than blows of the sword."

Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah transmitted it.

to be continued inshaa allaah
and now look at the Arab world

they are totally messed up with their obsession with all things American and western
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 PM   #20
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as_salaamu "alaykum

Yes. It is a little video I have made to show especially Christians and Jews how to rise to the script of ALLAAH (A*). That is only a pixel of the big picture.
can you explain a little what this hidden book is. a short introduction if you will.
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