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Old 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM   #21
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From the point of view of Islam we do not really want the Saudi family to be removed..because we would get something much worse if they were replaced. May Allah Guide them and protect them.
exactly
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM   #22
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They are uncivilised people personified and deserve to do job of cleaning toilets!!
you just slandered and insulted all Saudis becaue you don't like some of them.

beware of racism/jahiliyyah as Prophet (saws) said it is one of the coals of the hellfire

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All humankind is from Adam and Eve!

An Arab has NO SUPERIORITY over a non-Arab,

nor does a non Arab have superiority over an Arab.

A white person has no superiority over a black one,

nor does a black person have superiority over a white one;

except through the means of piety and good deeds.


(Holy Prophet Muhammad (saws) from the Farewell Sermon)


People should give up their

haughtiness in nations

because it is a coal

from the coals of Hell-fire.

If they do not give this (racism) up

God will consider them

lower than the lowly worm

which pushes itself through dung.


(Tirmidhi).

All human beings are the Children of Adam (as), they may belong to many different races, but all are equal before God. Racism and ideas of racial superiority are totally contrary to true Islamic teachings. No race is superior to any other and the only thing that makes one person superior to another is their piety.Islam teaches that all the races of man are equal and that only thing that can distinguish one person over another is their piety (relationship with God). http://abodeofmercy.wordpress.com/?s=racism
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM   #23
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you just slandered and insulted all Saudis becaue you don't like some of them.

beware of racism/jahiliyyah as Prophet (saws) said it is one of the coals of the hellfire

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]All humankind is from Adam and Eve!

An Arab has NO SUPERIORITY over a non-Arab,

nor does a non Arab have superiority over an Arab.

A white person has no superiority over a black one,

nor does a black person have superiority over a white one;

except through the means of piety and good deeds.
(Holy Prophet Muhammad (saws) from the Farewell Sermon)


People should give up their

haughtiness in nations

because it is a coal

from the coals of Hell-fire.

If they do not give this (racism) up

God will consider them

lower than the lowly worm

which pushes itself through dung.


(Tirmidhi).
But Islamic State of Saudi Arabia has a state imposed racism on non Saudis

How do you justify that?
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM   #24
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But Islamic State of Saudi Arabia has a state imposed racism on non Saudis

How do you justify that?
This policy was invented by the government not the people as a whole and they are not responsible for it.

Saudis consider it preserving their nation not racism. It is a very unfortunate side effect of the Ummah being split up into nation states. Sadly many rich Muslim countries have adopted similar policies.

Nothing like this however can justify racism against Saudis or any other people.

Racism is an evil jahiliyyah force.

It is even worse when it is from one part of the Ummah to another part.
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM   #25
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Your answer was good but did not address as to why Africans and Asians are warming up to Turkey's involvement in developing their countries in the same way they do with the Chinese.

The answer lies more in GEO-ECONOMICS which in turn has paved way for GEO-POLITICS . First of all unlike Riyadh, Ankara has undergone tremendous domestic change in the past decade, an arguably more significant shift is Turkey's emergence as an economic power. Since 1990, Turkey's gross domestic product has quadrupled, exports have grown by a factor of five, foreign direct investment by a factor of 45, and the value of traded stocks by a factor of 50. While economists have increasingly begun to issue warning flags regarding Turkey's current accounts deficit and risks of overheating, such concerns have yet to translate into the political field. It is only natural that Turkey's newly found economic clout would translate into more self-confidence on the international scene.

Turkey's "rediscovery" is part and parcel of this: Turkish exports are looking for new markets, and hordes of businessmen regularly accompany Turkish leaders on their numerous visits to Africa, Middle East, Asia and beyond. Given the close ties between politics and business in the region, closer political ties provide Turkish businessmen with preferential treatment.

Secondly, alleged Western mistakes are often viewed as an important factor in this transformation—including the view of former U.S. secretary of defense Robert Gates who blamed the EU's cold shouldering of Turkey for the country's "drift." While Ankara sided with Western states in major foreign policy issues in the past, this relationship was based on perceived reciprocity. However, since Turkey began negotiating for EU accession in 2005, opposition to Turkish membership not only grew in Europe but became ever more clearly articulated in terms of Ankara's cultural identity: Was Turkey in fact European at all? Overt calls by French and German politicians against Turkish accession had a profound impact in Ankara where politicians of all stripes denounced this stance. Most Turks now believe that Ankara will never join the EU, and internal support for membership has dwindled. Europe's alienation from Turkey has clearly had foreign policy implications.


While the Saudis were quick to defend Mubarak and the Tunisian dictator, Ankara was an early cheerleader for the Egyptian revolution: Erdoğan called on Egyptian leader Hosni Mubarak to resign, making him the first world leader to do so. And if Ankara was unequivocal on Egypt, Libya proved more complicated. When violence in Libya escalated, the Turkish leadership refrained from taking a clear stance. In fact, Erdoğan and Davutoğlu initially opposed U.N. sanctions on the Qaddafi regime and rejected calls for a NATO operation in the developing civil war. Erdoğan, Gül, and Davutoğlu cast doubt on Western motives, referring to "hidden agendas" and the West's thirst for oil resources (which almost every one agrees) Ankara eventually relented when some of its reservations were taken into account and later approved the NATO operation, calling for Qaddafi's resignation formally withdrawing its ambassador from Tripoli and recognizing the Transitional Council. We never saw Saudi influence in that sphere.

Now coming to Africa, which is of great interest to superpowers around the world (except Saudi's of course).

So far Turkey has built hospitals and Schools and upgraded existing ones, improved access to safe drinking water, repaired damaged roads and started work on the construction of an international airport. In March, Turkish Airlines began regular flights to Mogadishu, the first direct connection to Europe since 1991;. Turkish aid to Somalis since early 2011, both in cash and in-kind, is now estimated to be well in excess of $350 million.

here what i found on the google when i searched "Turkish investnment in Somalia":

Turkey and the Horn of Africa: Emerging Interests and Relations

http://www.internationalpolicydigest...and-relations/



Turkey set to heavily invest in Somalia
http://somalilandpress.com/worldnews...est-in-somalia


Turkey begins training 120 Somalis in Technical and Trades Innovation
http://somalilandpress.com/africa/31...des-innovation


IN PICTURES: Turkey begins training Somali forces
http://somalilandpress.com/africa/31...-somali-forces


IN PICTURES: Turkey makes progress in Somalia

http://somalilandpress.com/africa/32...ogress-somalia

Turkey takes lead in rebuilding Somalia
http://www.ganjab.com/bus/?p=497

http://www.ganjab.com/bus/?p=502

Somalia – Ready to do Business
http://www.ganjab.com/bus/?p=512


http://somalilandpress.com/index.php?s=turkish

MEB3 and Turkish Airlines grow in Africa at Europe’s big airlines’ expense

The Gulf carriers (the ‘MEB3’) and Turkish Airlines are on a clear expansion course in Sub-Saharan Africa, while Europe’s big airlines seem to rearrange their networks to the African continent


The biggest growth in absolute terms comes from Turkish Airlines, which has launched new non-stop flights to Accra, Dar Es Salaam, Kinshasa and Kigali.
Turkish Airlines has also boosted its operations to Khartoum, Lagos and Johannesburg by 30-40%.

Where are the Saudis? well no where...
GDP (nominal) 2010 IMF

Turkey is the 17th biggest economy of the world.Saudi Arabia is on place 23.And only with natural ressources like oil.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_GDP_(nominal)
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM   #26
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In most cases the GCC arabs can't safeguard their women let alone their culture!! I remember two years ago there was a disscussion about arabic dieing off as a result of the their education.
I am not racist but will not hide behind political correctness. Hence my views about general mirpuris and sylhetis are known to many here.
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM   #27
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This policy was invented by the government not the people as a whole and they are not responsible for it.

Saudis consider it preserving their nation not racism. It is a very unfortunate side effect of the Ummah being split up into nation states. Sadly many rich Muslim countries have adopted similar policies.

Nothing like this however can justify racism against Saudis or any other people.

Racism is an evil jahiliyyah force.

It is even worse when it is from one part of the Ummah to another part.
Salaam bro

People elect ulemaa and politicians to represent them. Considering this is the birthplace of Islam one wonder when did Saudi Muslims endorse this RACIST and bigoted policy?

The answer lies with the population who never question their leaders and Ulemaa who are more than happy to adopt RACISM as part of Government policy

Those people (not all) are pretty much stuck in the age of Jahiliya and they still have jahiliya mentality thats why they dont have a problem adopting policies that were promoted by Hitler or apartheid south Africa.
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM   #28
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Salaam bro

People elect ulemaa and politicians to represent them....


wa alaikum Assalam

???

Saudi Arabia is a monarchy, no one elected the government

and the Ulema are not elected either

what you are saying shows you have some very, very wrong ideas about KSA


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Old 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM   #29
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is this another Press TV inspired pro-Iran anti-Saudi (and by extension Free Syrian Army) thread I wonder?
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM   #30
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Humanitarian donation by country as a percentage of GNI in 2008 (report July 2010)

The GHA July 2010 report lists an illustrative selection of countries ... by the amount of money they give in year 2008 as a percentage of their gross national income....

Saudi Arabia – 0.15%
Luxembourg – 0.13%
Sweden – 0.12%
Denmark – 0.09%
Kuwait – 0.06%
United Arab Emirates – 0.04%
United States – 0.03%
Germany – 0.02%
Japan – 0.01%
Portugal – 0.01%
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM   #31
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Humanitarian donation by country as a percentage of GNI in 2008 (report July 2010)

The GHA July 2010 report lists an illustrative selection of countries ... by the amount of money they give in year 2008 as a percentage of their gross national income....

Saudi Arabia – 0.15%

Luxembourg – 0.13%
Sweden – 0.12%
Denmark – 0.09%
Kuwait – 0.06%
United Arab Emirates – 0.04%
United States – 0.03%
Germany – 0.02%
Japan – 0.01%
Portugal – 0.01%
Bit eye opening data.
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM   #32
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