[vforvandetta]

Another high profile case of a elderly Pakistani immigrant couple (in their 50s) in the UK allegedly murdering their teenage daughter because she would not marry a cousin in Pakistan and she had male friends in school.

Is this Islamic? What is the Islamic response in these type of situations if the child will not listen, should the parents just dis-own them? Or is it better to continue to have a close friendship with the child hoping that one day no matter what they may get through to the child? Should the parents change their attitude and become more accepting?

[Htb48JBf]

My question is slightly off-topic but I've been curious for quite a while,

Are there any Muslim countries in which such killing are called "honor killings"? I have never heard the term used by Muslims (at least outside of the english speaking world) and so I wonder about its origins. If anyone knows, please share your knowledge.

[orison]

yes these killings are called honor killings by the media in our country, the person who kills a female relative says that he did so to save his honour, If someone does not kill his daughter/sister if she is seeing a man or marrying in court or disowns her at least then he is considered a beighairat in a large section of our society..although the case mentioned in the on this thread feels too extreme...

[ayWCZ7VT]

They are called honour killings in Turkey as well, in Turkish: namus cinayeti

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In honor killings its not just the women, even the men are killed, very prevalent among the Hindus in India, they have as many castes within them as they have their deities, something in the range of 300 million, so if a person worships monkey diety, he can't marry a person who worhips motorcycle deity.....

[gMUVgw71]

In honor killings its not just the women, even the men are killed, very prevalent among the Hindus in India, they have as many castes within them as they have their deities, something in the range of 300 million, so if a person worships monkey diety, he can't marry a person who worhips motorcycle deity.....

...can someone who worships yamaha marry a honda-worshipper? or even that is not allowed...

[sam]

...can someone who worships yamaha marry a honda-worshipper? or even that is not allowed...

again not sure, they are 'sub-caste' caste within motorcycles caste, both have million worshipping them, so shouldn't feel the need for intercaste marriage and be up for a honor killing. what say?

[tweriaroats]

again not sure, they are 'sub-caste' caste within motorcycles caste, both have million worshipping them, so shouldn't feel the need for intercaste marriage and be up for a honor killing. what say?

I say they are quite liberal then, what about honour killings in the muslim community in India, do they occur often?

[Flerdourdyged]

yes these killings are called honor killings by the media in our country, the person who kills a female relative says that he did so to save his honour, If someone does not kill his daughter/sister if she is seeing a man or marrying in court or disowns her at least then he is considered a beighairat in a large section of our society..although the case mentioned in the on this thread feels too extreme...

So what is the urdu term that is used to refer to the actually "honor killing"?

[lrUyiva1]

So what is the urdu term that is used to refer to the actually "honor killing"?

its a phrase " Ghairat ke naam par qatal karna"...

[karaburatoreror]

I say they are quite liberal then, what about honour killings in the muslim community in India, do they occur often?

not very often, there's no comparison at all, 73 & 300 million, we aren't honored yet...

[tousuarshatly]

not very often, there's no comparison at all, 73 & 300 million, we aren't honored yet...

what does a traditional muslim do when he finds out that his daughter has a boyfriend or she runs away with a man??, May Allah protect...

[Gypejeva]

what does a traditional muslim do when he finds out that his daughter has a boyfriend or she runs away with a man??, May Allah protect...

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[w4WBthjv]

the story is a bit suspicious....the second daughter who apparently witnessed this attack told the police after she had been arrested for stealing from her parents home :s

How does she have the courage to steal from her parents when she saw what they are capable of with her sister
and why would the family call the police on her if they knew that she knows they murdered the other sister

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[DoniandaCoado]

the story is a bit suspicious....the second daughter who apparently witnessed this attack told the police after she had been arrested for stealing from her parents home :s

How does she have the courage to steal from her parents when she saw what they are capable of with her sister
and why would the family call the police on her if they knew that she knows they murdered the other sister

to expand on this a bit further, she supposedly witnessed this honour killing in 2003. In 2010 she got 3 men to do an armed robbery on her own parents house, her mum and siblings were tied up in the house. She got caught and suddenly her memory was jogged and she decided to tell the police her parents had done this so called honour killing 7 years ago. Id imagine the police were more than happy to give her a light sentence if she took this case up. The only evidence they have is a statement, they cant possible collect any forensic evidence now after 7 years. So the only evidence is a witness, and that witness had just been caught robbing from the so called murder suspects. If thats not an unreliable witness I dont know what is. Furthermore, the press have buried these facts under a massive load of headlines such as strict muslim parents kill daughter due to western lifestyle*

































*allegedly

[fotochicaes]

this is a wake up call for the muslims as usual and we still wont wake up to 1 eradicated barbaric unislamic practices and 2 raising the youth properly

[Adamdjeffe]

Another high profile case of a elderly Pakistani immigrant couple (in their 50s) in the UK allegedly murdering their teenage daughter because she would not marry a cousin in Pakistan and she had male friends in school.

Is this Islamic? What is the Islamic response in these type of situations if the child will not listen, should the parents just dis-own them? Or is it better to continue to have a close friendship with the child hoping that one day no matter what they may get through to the child? Should the parents change their attitude and become more accepting?

Of course it's not Islamic. Anyone can't act as a vigilante enforcing sharia by own hands without the mandate by the government. It's tribal in nature rather than Islamic.

Allah Knows Best.

[MaickiP]

this is a wake up call for the muslims as usual and we still wont wake up to 1 eradicated barbaric unislamic practices and 2 raising the youth properly

what should a father do when he finds out his daughter has a boyfriend?

[WertyNtont]

Certainly not kill her. Even in an Islamic khilafat if he wished for hadd, he would need witnesses, would he not?