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Old 09-04-2012, 03:56 AM   #1
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Default How will these actions affect my identity as a Muslim girl?
This is quite a complicated issue so I'll be brief. I am attending university and studying medicine. I also am a Muslim girl who recently wore the hijab. Modesty of dress as well as action/behavior are really important concepts in Islam and I respect my religion enough to adhere to them as best as I can. However, I have a really vibrant personality and it definitely shows in my actions. Meaning, I am an amateur speechwriter for small political groups and will soon be joining Toastmasters International.

Also, I not only study medicine but I feel obligated to extend my education to research so I can have a place and say in society. Muslims need to make a proper impression on the world so that they can better understood and to show others how they value education. Back to the point, a lot of people have been critiquing my decision to speechwriter for small organizations, giving speeches to large crowds, and my hopes to do future research.

The main reason they do so is because they feel that this is a job better pursued by a man because it will be too masculine for a woman to do so. And because these ideas are so relatively new, the efforts will be lost and that it will be unsuccessful. I understand to some extent what they mean, but I fail to understand how it means I will lose my femininity or become somehow immodest by having a voice and preaching to others. How will these actions/ideas affect my identity as a Muslim girl?
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:56 AM   #2
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So you will both write the speech and also give it?

You will probably get 2 opinions from people. One approving of it the other not depending on the persons own view about women and their role. Some might approve if you only give speeches to women only groups. I think there are instances of Muslim female scholars giving lectures to men and women in the past....not sure if they were from behind a veil or screen or not. Some people say the voice of a woman is also part of her aura and strange men must not get to hear your voice.
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:56 AM   #3
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This is quite a complicated issue so I'll be brief. I am attending university and studying medicine. I also am a Muslim girl who recently wore the hijab. Modesty of dress as well as action/behavior are really important concepts in Islam and I respect my religion enough to adhere to them as best as I can. However, I have a really vibrant personality and it definitely shows in my actions. Meaning, I am an amateur speechwriter for small political groups and will soon be joining Toastmasters International.

Also, I not only study medicine but I feel obligated to extend my education to research so I can have a place and say in society. Muslims need to make a proper impression on the world so that they can better understood and to show others how they value education. Back to the point, a lot of people have been critiquing my decision to speechwriter for small organizations, giving speeches to large crowds, and my hopes to do future research.

The main reason they do so is because they feel that this is a job better pursued by a man because it will be too masculine for a woman to do so. And because these ideas are so relatively new, the efforts will be lost and that it will be unsuccessful. I understand to some extent what they mean, but I fail to understand how it means I will lose my femininity or become somehow immodest by having a voice and preaching to others. How will these actions/ideas affect my identity as a Muslim girl?
sister...!

Use you pen for speeches not you voice...for females you can use your voice also but it is better for you to abstain from talking in front of males...shaitan, and nafs are always there to deviate us, shaitan is an experienced devil, he has been deviating us from centuries , he has seen the times of old prophets :as: , and nafs is our biggest enemy, so to save yourself from sharr (ill effects) of shaitan and nafs and use your speech in a proper islamic way, it is recommended to attach yourself to scholars and take their opinions into consideration,...stay on sunniforum for few weeks and read the current and old threads , also when your posts exceed 75, join sisters only group and talk to other sisters there, they will help you in a better way...!

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Old 09-04-2012, 03:56 AM   #4
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This is quite a complicated issue so I'll be brief. I am attending university and studying medicine. I also am a Muslim girl who recently wore the hijab. Modesty of dress as well as action/behavior are really important concepts in Islam and I respect my religion enough to adhere to them as best as I can. However, I have a really vibrant personality and it definitely shows in my actions. Meaning, I am an amateur speechwriter for small political groups and will soon be joining Toastmasters International.

Also, I not only study medicine but I feel obligated to extend my education to research so I can have a place and say in society. Muslims need to make a proper impression on the world so that they can better understood and to show others how they value education. Back to the point, a lot of people have been critiquing my decision to speechwriter for small organizations, giving speeches to large crowds, and my hopes to do future research.

The main reason they do so is because they feel that this is a job better pursued by a man because it will be too masculine for a woman to do so. And because these ideas are so relatively new, the efforts will be lost and that it will be unsuccessful. I understand to some extent what they mean, but I fail to understand how it means I will lose my femininity or become somehow immodest by having a voice and preaching to others. How will these actions/ideas affect my identity as a Muslim girl?
Dear Sister

I believe it depends on the society you find yourself in. I live in a Muslim minority society where western norms are prevalent. We have many Muslim female doctors who practise medicine on both sexes and are active in society. Muslim females participate in radio/tv talk shows and are also presenters and anchors. Most professional Muslim females are recognisable by their modest dress. Their Islamic identity is preserved in appearance and practice. I believe ultimately it is a matter of personal choice dependendant on your environment. Many would disagree citing all kinds of schorlarly works, but we need to temper our conservatism with sense of realism
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:56 AM   #5
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This is quite a complicated issue so I'll be brief. I am attending university and studying medicine. I also am a Muslim girl who recently wore the hijab. Modesty of dress as well as action/behavior are really important concepts in Islam and I respect my religion enough to adhere to them as best as I can. However, I have a really vibrant personality and it definitely shows in my actions. Meaning, I am an amateur speechwriter for small political groups and will soon be joining Toastmasters International.

Also, I not only study medicine but I feel obligated to extend my education to research so I can have a place and say in society. Muslims need to make a proper impression on the world so that they can better understood and to show others how they value education. Back to the point, a lot of people have been critiquing my decision to speechwriter for small organizations, giving speeches to large crowds, and my hopes to do future research.

The main reason they do so is because they feel that this is a job better pursued by a man because it will be too masculine for a woman to do so. And because these ideas are so relatively new, the efforts will be lost and that it will be unsuccessful. I understand to some extent what they mean, but I fail to understand how it means I will lose my femininity or become somehow immodest by having a voice and preaching to others. How will these actions/ideas affect my identity as a Muslim girl?
ASWW
Its all about aura. Womens aura needs to be protected and preserved at all times. If you are going to be screaming and shouting this is going to be difficult for your future husband.(assuming you are not yet married) This practice of protesting will also make you more aggressive and its makes things even worse I suppose.
But hey if you can maintain your femininity and still be aggressive - because thats what motivating large crowds is all about-
FORGIVE ME IF I HAVE TAKEN YOU ON A TOTALLY DIFFERENT TANGENT!
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:56 AM   #6
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Bismillah
Do salatul istekhara
Be modest in your appearance and not be dolled up when giving speeches both in action and religious attaire
Limit unnecessary contacts
Be upfront and straight forward speaking when dealing with male and adopt a stern demeanor. This way the ghair mehram wont get the idea of asking you out. Sadly many fall foul of this including niqabis.
Be under the guidance of spiritual shaikh (Shaikh of tassawuf).

As for those who feel one losses ones femininity is based on experience. I have seen women acting like gessa bird by adopting a demeanor of a male.

Allahualam
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:56 AM   #7
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Well there are three prominent British Muslim women I can think off immediately who are involved in politics - no one doubts their level of imaan.
Yvonne Ridley - speaker
Salma Yaqoub - Leader of Respect party
Myriam Francois-Cerrah - PhD candidate, very erudite.
you will find all of them active on twitter - you can tweet them for advice.
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:56 AM   #8
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This is quite a complicated issue so I'll be brief. I am attending university and studying medicine. I also am a Muslim girl who recently wore the hijab. Modesty of dress as well as action/behavior are really important concepts in Islam and I respect my religion enough to adhere to them as best as I can. However, I have a really vibrant personality and it definitely shows in my actions. Meaning, I am an amateur speechwriter for small political groups and will soon be joining Toastmasters International.

Also, I not only study medicine but I feel obligated to extend my education to research so I can have a place and say in society. Muslims need to make a proper impression on the world so that they can better understood and to show others how they value education. Back to the point, a lot of people have been critiquing my decision to speechwriter for small organizations, giving speeches to large crowds, and my hopes to do future research.

The main reason they do so is because they feel that this is a job better pursued by a man because it will be too masculine for a woman to do so. And because these ideas are so relatively new, the efforts will be lost and that it will be unsuccessful. I understand to some extent what they mean, but I fail to understand how it means I will lose my femininity or become somehow immodest by having a voice and preaching to others. How will these actions/ideas affect my identity as a Muslim girl?
Please listen to post 7 advise.

The longer version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyZk4twGQos

Short extract
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKSBlsuCutA

This woman is public speaking. I dont see anything wrong in her speaking to public.
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:56 AM   #9
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Dear Sister

I believe it depends on the society you find yourself in. I live in a Muslim minority society where western norms are prevalent. We have many Muslim female doctors who practise medicine on both sexes and are active in society. Muslim females participate in radio/tv talk shows and are also presenters and anchors. Most professional Muslim females are recognisable by their modest dress. Their Islamic identity is preserved in appearance and practice. I believe ultimately it is a matter of personal choice dependendant on your environment. Many would disagree citing all kinds of schorlarly works, but we need to temper our conservatism with sense of realism


we cannot in any case go against teachings of Allah and his rasool

the efforts which were done at past, the same efforts will spread islam today also, we dont need to use our mind for spreading deen , just do what suhabah did and Allah's help will come which will ultimately lead to victory


Please listen to post 7 advise.

The longer version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyZk4twGQos

Short extract
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKSBlsuCutA

This woman is public speaking. I dont see anything wrong in her speaking to public.


our thinking doesnt matter, what matters is whether Allah and his rasool likes our actions and opinions or not, did any women of salaf showed her face to men to give speech..........the answer is a big NO, women will teach women about islam and men will teach men and men can teach women but with complete purdah, when a women talks in front of men and that too with face uncovered, the whole modesty is lost as it is not allowed for men to look at women nor it is allowed for women to show off her face to men...when i clicked the link i saw a women face uncovered i just closed that window...delete that link brother, it is a sin to look at women , a big sin indeed...!

It just destroys ones imaan, just one intentional glance and imaan just becomes weak much weaker indeed...!
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