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5.35 onwards in this video Hazrat Mufti Rafi usmani Sahab (DB) says the following words:

The question arise whether in our Pakistan whether we should have the freedom to act upon our teachings, our traditions, our religion and our faith. We want to practice that. And we also ask the government to do the same. If this is called extremism then we are extremists. It this is called fundamentalism then we are fundamentalists. And if it is terrorism then we are terrorists too. But it is rather obvious that this is not terrorism.
This might sound like a very conservative thing to say and mundane too. Conservative it is but not mundane.
We are passing through that moment in history in which the dominant ideas are the western ones and the west is loosing its grip on the world. So the whole world needs an reference point to locate its life. What can this reference point be? Well when Allah (SWT) has given us the law to live life according to then why should we be disoriented at all? Sooner or later we have to establish an interface with the west and that can be done only if we have a locus standi, a reference point to present to the world. Mufti Rafi Usmani Sahab (DB) has done that very succinctly. Though he is speaking in the context of Pakistan but this is indeed the paradigm fit for whole Ummah, an Ummah that has to have an interface with the west. Above paradigm is a brief exposition of our desirable position in both matters.

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It will not be out of place to point out that this is precisely the flame that west wants to extinguish. In Muslim society there can hardly be any doubt about this but to bring it to the fore and that too in a precise form requires a personality that has both insight as well as concern. The problem now is to adopt this point of view and attitude.

[rvadipoldkov]

And we also ask the government to do the same.

this is indeed where ideologies diverge. I have little doubt in mind to opine that Mufti Sahab, in his grand status as Mufti e Azam and head of dar ul uloom karachi, could not say any more than that on this particular line.

though I don't disagree with the notion that he genuinely believes 'asking' would work. yet there are few major flaws in this. may I show you a brief study on those who adopted this path before him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdbKq...feature=relmfu
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX6x5...feature=relmfu (imp)

the basic problem with this apporach, as highlighted in above videos, is adherence to the existing system and acceptance of prevalent worldview which in itself restricts full implementation of Islam - no matter how sincere and pious the implementers may be. we see it everywhere in the islamist democratic governments. what can they really do to dispense the duty they have towards Islam, Shariah and Ummah? that is all I ask. this is what I felt the message was that was given by Ml. Salman Nadwi as well. "cheechray" he called what they are striving for today.

the second problem is that Islamic history , fiqh and the times of khair ul quroon teach us otherwise. one example of Imam Abu Hanfiah (rh) and the revolt against Abbasid Khalifah is enough of a rejoinder.

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this is indeed where ideologies diverge. I have little doubt in mind to opine that Mufti Sahab, in his grand status as Mufti e Azam and head of dar ul uloom karachi, could not say any more than that on this particular line.

though I don't disagree with the notion that he genuinely believes 'asking' would work. yet there are few major flaws in this. may I show you a brief study on those who adopted this path before him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdbKq...feature=relmfu
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX6x5...feature=relmfu (imp)

the basic problem with this apporach, as highlighted in above videos, is adherence to the existing system and acceptance of prevalent worldview which in itself restricts full implementation of Islam - no matter how sincere and pious the implementers may be. we see it everywhere in the islamist democratic governments. what can they really do to dispense the duty they have towards Islam, Shariah and Ummah? that is all I ask. this is what I felt the message was that was given by Ml. Salman Nadwi as well. "cheechray" he called what they are striving for today.

the second problem is that Islamic history , fiqh and the times of khair ul quroon teach us otherwise. one example of Imam Abu Hanfiah (rh) and the revolt against Abbasid Khalifah is enough of a rejoinder.

I'll watch the videos tomorrow, IA.
Just finished the Maulana Salman Nadwi (DB) video transcript. There might be errors.