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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #1
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The civil war in Syria has a number of possible outcomes:

- The present Baath Alawi/Sunni secular goverment survives. If that happens there will be widespread ethno-religious cleansing seeking to eliminate the chance of a renewal of a Saudi backed sectarian insurgency. IMO, no outside power would intervene to prevent this cleansing.

- The civil war persists indefinitely. Iran and Russia continue to support the Syrian gov. Syria is torn to pieces, possible irreperably. Western powers and Saudis continue to support rebels. Lebanon my or may not be drawn into this continuing situation. The Lebanese do not relish such a possibility.

- Syrian government falls. A Sunni salafi government is installed with Saudi support and initial American support which turns to eventual embarassed silence as installation of a sharia law state occurs. This new state becomes a haven for terrorists and some will kill in the name of Jihad. Massive repression of non-Sunnis occurs. The Syrian salafi government seeks to "absorb" Lebanon.

Israel is seriously threatened by either of the outcmes in which the present government does not survive.

Chemical weapons are not a serious factor in any of these scenarios.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #2
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The civil war in Syria has a number of possible outcomes:

- The present Baath Alawi/Sunni secular goverment survives. If that happens there will be widespread ethno-religious cleansing seeking to eliminate the chance of a renewal of a Saudi backed sectarian insurgency. IMO, no outside power would intervene to prevent this cleansing.

- The civil war persists indefinitely. Iran and Russia continue to support the Syrian gov. Syria is torn to pieces, possible irreperably. Western powers and Saudis continue to support rebels. Lebanon my or may not be drawn into this continuing situation. The Lebanese do not relish such a possibility.

- Syrian government falls. A Sunni salafi government is installed with Saudi support and initial American support which turns to eventual embarassed silence as installation of a sharia law state occurs. This new state becomes a haven for terrorists and some will kill in the name of Jihad. Massive repression of non-Sunnis occurs. The Syrian salafi government seeks to "absorb" Lebanon.

Israel is seriously threatened by either of the outcmes in which the present government does not survive.

Chemical weapons are not a serious factor in any of these scenarios.
Which power in Syria will be a threat to International banking cartels who want to implement one world dictatorship ?
If nobody, then you must know that this whole game in Syria is being played on purpose.

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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #3
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The civil war in Syria has a number of possible outcomes:

- The present Baath Alawi/Sunni secular goverment survives. If that happens there will be widespread ethno-religious cleansing seeking to eliminate the chance of a renewal of a Saudi backed sectarian insurgency. IMO, no outside power would intervene to prevent this cleansing.

- The civil war persists indefinitely. Iran and Russia continue to support the Syrian gov. Syria is torn to pieces, possible irreperably. Western powers and Saudis continue to support rebels. Lebanon my or may not be drawn into this continuing situation. The Lebanese do not relish such a possibility.

- Syrian government falls. A Sunni salafi government is installed with Saudi support and initial American support which turns to eventual embarassed silence as installation of a sharia law state occurs. This new state becomes a haven for terrorists and some will kill in the name of Jihad. Massive repression of non-Sunnis occurs. The Syrian salafi government seeks to "absorb" Lebanon.

Israel is seriously threatened by either of the outcmes in which the present government does not survive.

Chemical weapons are not a serious factor in any of these scenarios.
What is the purpose of such incriminating post?

Are you a fortune teller? How do you predict "Massive repression of non-Sunnis occurs" ?

Why do you ignore genocidal extermination of Syrian Muslims on industrial scale by Nusairi Kuffar with the help of rafidis and their Judo-Christian allies?

Do you have any idea of what is happening on the ground? Please tell us.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #4
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The civil war in Syria has a number of possible outcomes:

- The present Baath Alawi/Sunni secular goverment survives. If that happens there will be widespread ethno-religious cleansing seeking to eliminate the chance of a renewal of a Saudi backed sectarian insurgency. IMO, no outside power would intervene to prevent this cleansing.

- The civil war persists indefinitely. Iran and Russia continue to support the Syrian gov. Syria is torn to pieces, possible irreperably. Western powers and Saudis continue to support rebels. Lebanon my or may not be drawn into this continuing situation. The Lebanese do not relish such a possibility.

- Syrian government falls. A Sunni salafi government is installed with Saudi support and initial American support which turns to eventual embarassed silence as installation of a sharia law state occurs. This new state becomes a haven for terrorists and some will kill in the name of Jihad. Massive repression of non-Sunnis occurs. The Syrian salafi government seeks to "absorb" Lebanon.

Israel is seriously threatened by either of the outcmes in which the present government does not survive.

Chemical weapons are not a serious factor in any of these scenarios.
Too simplistic options. And AQ salafi power is being exaggerated. They are good for nothing except blowing up stuff.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #5
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The civil war in Syria has a number of possible outcomes:

- The present Baath Alawi/Sunni secular goverment survives. If that happens there will be widespread ethno-religious cleansing seeking to eliminate the chance of a renewal of a Saudi backed sectarian insurgency. IMO, no outside power would intervene to prevent this cleansing.

- The civil war persists indefinitely. Iran and Russia continue to support the Syrian gov. Syria is torn to pieces, possible irreperably. Western powers and Saudis continue to support rebels. Lebanon my or may not be drawn into this continuing situation. The Lebanese do not relish such a possibility.

- Syrian government falls. A Sunni salafi government is installed with Saudi support and initial American support which turns to eventual embarassed silence as installation of a sharia law state occurs. This new state becomes a haven for terrorists and some will kill in the name of Jihad. Massive repression of non-Sunnis occurs. The Syrian salafi government seeks to "absorb" Lebanon.

Israel is seriously threatened by either of the outcmes in which the present government does not survive.

Chemical weapons are not a serious factor in any of these scenarios.
Are you a Uni student?

I don't understand how "chemical weapons are not a serious factor"? I've read over the years that the Syrian regime has large stockpile of chemical weapons. Do you foresee a scenario where jihadi/salafist groups could get a hold of these stockpiles after a gov't collapse? Could Hezbollah ship these chemical weapons out of Syria?
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #6
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Bashar al Assad's chemical weapons are his breath, his socks and his personality.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #7
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The civil war in Syria has a number of possible outcomes:

- The present Baath Alawi/Sunni secular goverment survives. If that happens there will be widespread ethno-religious cleansing seeking to eliminate the chance of a renewal of a Saudi backed sectarian insurgency. IMO, no outside power would intervene to prevent this cleansing.

- The civil war persists indefinitely. Iran and Russia continue to support the Syrian gov. Syria is torn to pieces, possible irreperably. Western powers and Saudis continue to support rebels. Lebanon my or may not be drawn into this continuing situation. The Lebanese do not relish such a possibility.

- Syrian government falls. A Sunni salafi government is installed with Saudi support and initial American support which turns to eventual embarassed silence as installation of a sharia law state occurs. This new state becomes a haven for terrorists and some will kill in the name of Jihad. Massive repression of non-Sunnis occurs. The Syrian salafi government seeks to "absorb" Lebanon.

Israel is seriously threatened by either of the outcmes in which the present government does not survive.

Chemical weapons are not a serious factor in any of these scenarios.
the first two are just the dream of the Bashar al-Assad worshipers.

the third is an insult on the Sunny revolutionaries

the only like outcome Inshaallah is .....

- Syrian government falls.

- A Sunni government of Free Syria is born.

- Syrians rejoice

- Hateful Rafidites cry
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #8
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the first two are just the dream of the Bashar al-Assad worshipers.

the third is an insult on the Sunny revolutionaries

the only like outcome Inshaallah is .....

- Syrian government falls.

- A Sunni government of Free Syria is born.

- Syrians rejoice

- Hateful Rafidites cry
Well said.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #9
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Obama said something about Chemical weapons today

well...I wonder where they will go after Syria...
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #10
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they are closer to intervening now than they have been so far but Russia has been a big obstacle against this and still is.

if the Syrian people can win the revolution on their own with only Muslim support it will be best for them, but western assistance may help speed things up, but as we all know it will only come with many strings attached
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #11
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Are you a Uni student?

I don't understand how "chemical weapons are not a serious factor"? I've read over the years that the Syrian regime has large stockpile of chemical weapons. Do you foresee a scenario where jihadi/salafist groups could get a hold of these stockpiles after a gov't collapse? Could Hezbollah ship these chemical weapons out of Syria?
why would you think i'm a university student?

my point was , the effects of chemical weapons are vastly over stated in the media and in the minds of the public as a result. The outcome in Syria will not be determied by such weapons. people can be killed by chemical weapons. Wars cannot be won by them. The effects are too local for that. Don't confuse a few casualties with masscasualties. Iraq used chemical fires in the war with Iran. the result was not decisive at all.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #12
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the first two are just the dream of the Bashar al-Assad worshipers.

the third is an insult on the Sunny revolutionaries

the only like outcome Inshaallah is .....

- Syrian government falls.

- A Sunni government of Free Syria is born.

- Syrians rejoice

- Hateful Rafidites cry
Youve forgotten how HAMAS will be neutralised and then move its headquarters to Tel Aviv with the help of Israelis, Saudis and Qataris.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #13
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the first two are just the dream of the Bashar al-Assad worshipers.

the third is an insult on the Sunny revolutionaries

the only like outcome Inshaallah is .....

- Syrian government falls.

- A Sunni government of Free Syria is born.

- Syrians rejoice

- Hateful Rafidites cry
Then , the sunni Syrians will start burning the banks .

Do you live in utopia ?
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #14
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Then , the sunni Syrians will start burning the banks .

Do you live in utopia ?
this has nothing to do with banks
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #15
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Youve forgotten how HAMAS will be neutralised and then move its headquarters to Tel Aviv with the help of Israelis, Saudis and Qataris.
any evidence to support that claim?
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #16
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this has nothing to do with banks
Do you mean that the sunni govt of free Syria will love usury-based banks ?
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #17
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do you mean that the sunni govt of free syria will love usury-based banks ?
INNOCENT people are dying in great numbers and all you care about are banks

the only thing I have to say to you is OLYMPICS
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #18
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any evidence to support that claim?
Its in Israels interest to do that to Hamas so it can have no resistance from the Palestinians. Friends of Israel in the Arab world are helping it do that
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #19
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/25/wo...pposition.html


Hamas’s prime minister in Gaza, Ismail Haniya, greeted supporters after Friday Prayer, where he had spoken out against President Bashar al-Assad.

By FARES AKRAM


GAZA —A leader of Hamas spoke out against President Bashar al-Assad of Syria on Friday, throwing its support behind the opposition and stripping Damascus of what little credibility it may have retained with the Arab street. It was Hamas’s first public break with its longtime patron.

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Hamas’s prime minister in Gaza, Ismail Haniya, said during Friday Prayer, “I salute all people of the Arab Spring, or Islamic winter, and I salute the Syrian people who seek freedom, democracy and reform.”

The worshipers shouted back, “God is great” and “Syria! Syria!”

Mr. Haniya made his remarks in support of the uprising that is seeking to oust Mr. Assad, a reversal after years in which Mr. Assad has given safe haven to leaders of Hamas while helping supply it with weapons and cash in its battle against Israel.

But the remarks were almost as significant for where they were made: in Cairo, at Al Azhar Mosque.

During the years in which Syria supported Hamas, Egypt’s leaders were hostile to the group, treating it as a despised relative of the Muslim Brotherhood, which was also tagged an outlaw and banned. So Mr. Haniya’s remarks in Egypt served as another measure of how much has changed since popular uprisings began to sweep the region, removing President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt and now trying to topple Mr. Assad.

Mr. Haniya’s comments confirmed a distance between Hamas and Damascus that emerged several weeks ago when the group’s leadership abandoned its longtime base in Syria as the environment there became more violent. The remarks, which were seen as the group’s official position because of Mr. Haniya’s role, reflected a progressively deeper split with Mr. Assad. Hamas also recently allowed residents of Gaza to stage protests against Mr. Assad and in support of the uprising.

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In Cairo, as Mr. Haniya spoke, the crowds also shouted against Iran and the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, both of which continue to support Mr. Assad and have long been hailed on the Arab street for remaining defiant toward Israel. That was yet another significant shift caused by the Arab uprisings.

“No Iran, no Hezbollah. Syria is Islamic,” protesters chanted,...
why is it that Hamas has declared war on Syria if what you say is true mrs Lioness?
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #20
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Its in Israels interest to do that to Hamas so it can have no resistance from the Palestinians. Friends of Israel in the Arab world are helping it do that
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...y-aid-for-iran

Hamas rules out military support for Iran in any war with Israel

Senior figures say Gaza-based Islamic militants would not launch rockets into Israel at request of Tehran, a key sponsor

Hamas will not do Iran's bidding in any war with Israel, according to senior figures within the militant Islamic group.

"If there is a war between two powers, Hamas will not be part of such a war," Salah Bardawil, a member of the organisation's political bureau in Gaza City, told the Guardian.

He denied the group would launch rockets into Israel at Tehran's request in response to a strike on its nuclear sites. "Hamas is not part of military alliances in the region," said Bardawil. "Our strategy is to defend our rights"

The stance underscores Hamas's rift with its key financial sponsor and its realignment with the Muslim Brotherhood and popular protest movements in the Arab world.

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Tehran has withdrawn its patronage of Hamas over the Palestinian group's refusal to support the Syrian regime against a year-long uprising. According to a Gazan academic who specialises in Islamic movements, this has included the termination of financial support worth $23m (£14.5m) a month.

"Iran is very unhappy about Hamas and Syria, so it is punishing Hamas," said Adnan Abu Amer of Ummah university. "They have stopped funding. Hamas has other sources – the Gulf states, Islamic movements, charities –

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Abu Amer, who had links to both Hamas and the Syrian government during three years in Damascus studying for a PhD, likens the rupture between the two sides to a divorce. "Syria has become the past for Hamas....

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the Muslim Brotherhood in the region was openly critical of the Syrian regime and urged Hamas to break with Assad. In particular, the influential Islamic cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi put personal pressure on Meshaal, said Abu Amer.

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The Muslim Brotherhood exerted an influence, he said. "Hamas has been part of the Muslim Brotherhood from the beginning. The leadership has a very tight relationship with the Brotherhood leadership." The connection between the two organisations was based on ideology, he said, whereas the relationship between Hamas and Syria was strategic.

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In an unexpected and forceful show of solidarity in a speech in Cairo last month, Haniyeh saluted "the heroic people of Syria who are striving for freedom, democracy and reform". The move explicitly underlined Hamas's rift with the regime.
The strategic relationship between Syria and Hamas and Iran and Hamas are long over. Stop spreading Press TV propaganda.
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