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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #1
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I want to know what islam says about music
because i love to listen music
just want to know that it is forbidden in islam and why?



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i just wanted to know about music in islam
is it forbidden bcoz i love to listen music
if it is forbidden then give reference plz



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I want to know what islam says about music
because i love to listen music
just want to know that it is forbidden in islam and why?



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Well basically no. Music is NOT forbidden in Islam. You like to listen to music ...go ahead listen to it..but just don't become addictive to it...Islam is a religion of moderation and encourages us to do things in a moderate way...

There are scholars who say Music is not allowed...Others say it is allowed with some restrictions etc etc...So the matter is not settled even within Islam...so there is nothing wrong is listening to Music ...as long as you don't make music your "life" .... Like there are some people who close themselves in their rooms and listens to music all day and do nothing else!...Your social life should not get effected by music...

And yeah , stay on deen..Pray namaz and be a nice person..its not like you are listening to music and your mom say "Hey Yusra do this" and you yell at her " MOM! KEEP QUIET..I'm listening to my fav. song" lols...There are people like that...

So yeah , since the matter is "disputed" among Islamic scholars , you can choose those scholars who say Music is allowed in Islam ...

Keep enjoying Music ...


Here is two scholars of Islam discussing the issue .. (The host of this show is Shabbir Ally...The BEST Islam defender/debator in the World...never seen a guy better than him..May Allah bless him...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFxu5zjwj0k
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Music and Singing

The case with music and unlawful singing is the same. It has been decisively prohibited in Shariah, as the evidences mentioned further along will illustrate. Yet there are individuals who are not ready to believe that it is unlawful (haram).

In the modern era, music has spread to such an extent that nobody is free from it. Individuals are confronted with situations where they are forced to listen to music. It is played nearly in all department stores and supermarkets. If you sit in a taxi, make a phone call or even walk down the street, you will not be saved from this evil. Young Muslims drive around in their cars with the music fully blasted. The increasing popularity of music, which is prevalent in our society, poses a great threat to the Muslims.

Music is a direct ploy of the non-Muslims. One of the main causes for the decline of the Muslims is their involvement in useless entertainment. Today we see that Muslims are involved, and at the forefront perhaps, of many immoralities and evils. The spiritual power which once was the trait of a Muslim is nowhere to be seen. One of the main reasons for this is music and useless entertainment.

Harms and effects of music

We should be aware that nothing has been prohibited by the Almighty Creator except that which is harmful to the Muslims and the society as a whole. There are great harms and ill-effects of music.

Islam totally forbids adultery and also those things that lead to it. Allah Most High says:

“And do not (even) come near to adultery, for it is a shameful deed and an evil, opening the road (to other evils).” (al-Isra, 32)

Islam does not only prohibit adultery and fornication, but also those things that may lead to it. This is the reason why the Qur’an orders Muslim men and women to lower their gazes. It prohibits one from being alone with someone of the opposite sex (khalwa). Informal interaction with the opposite sex has also been made unlawful.

This is also one of the main reasons for the prohibition of music, as it effects one’s emotions, creates arousal, passion and excitement, and also leads to various physiological changes in the person. It is a psychological proven fact that two things are instrumental in arousing the human sexual desire, one being the voice of a female (for males) and the other music.

This is the reason why Allah Most High says:

“O wives of the prophet! You are not like other women, if you are god-fearing. So do not be soft in speech. Lest in whose heart is disease should be moved with desire.” (Surah al-Ahzab, v. 32)

Thus, Islam forbids listening to the female voice with lust and desire. The great Hanafi Jurist, Imam Ibn Abidin (Allah have mercy on him) states:

“It is permissible for women to converse with non-Mahram men at the time of need (and vice versa). However, what is not permissible is that they stretch, soften and raise their voice in a melodious way.” (Radd al-Muhtar, V.1, P. 406)

Similarly, it is also unlawful for women to listen to the voice of non-Mahram men with lust and desire. One of the great western thinkers said: “The voice is one of the quickest ways that make a woman fall in love with a man. This is the reason why many women adore singers.”

The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) was also wary of this fact when he said to the Companion Bara ibn Malik: “O Bara! Let not the women here your voice.” (Kanz al-Ummal, 7/322) The same has also been reported from the Companion Anjasha (Allah be pleased with him).
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Question:
Music and Singing: A detailed fatwa


Answer:
In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,

The worst case scenario in the event of being inflicted with a disease is when the one involved refuses to believe that he has been inflicted with that disease. The way this phenomenon is accepted and recognised in diseases and illnesses that affect the physical body, it is also true with regards to spiritual diseases and ailments.

When a person commits a sin (may Allah save us all) believing that a sin is being committed and feels regret and remorse in the heart, then this is far better then committing the sin and believing it to be lawful (halal). In the former situation, only one sin is being committed, and it is very likely that the individual may repent out of the remorse felt in the heart. In the latter case, however, in addition to the sin being committed, there is the greater sin of trying to justify it. Normally, such an individual does not receive the guidance to repent from his sin. (May Allah save us all, Ameen).

Music and Singing?

The case with music and unlawful singing is the same. It has been decisively prohibited in Shariah, as the evidences mentioned further along will show. Yet there are individuals that are not ready to believe that it is Haram.

In the modern era, music has spread to such an extent that nobody is free from it. Individuals are confronted with situations where they are forced to listen to music. It is played nearly in all department stores and supermarkets. If you sit in a taxi, make a phone call or even walk down the street, you will not be saved from this evil. Young Muslims drive around in their cars with the music fully blasted. The increasing popularity of music, which is prevalent in our society, poses a great threat to the Muslims.

Music is a direct ploy of the Non-Muslims. One of the main causes for the decline of the Muslims is their involvement in useless entertainment. Today we see that Muslims are involved, and at the forefront perhaps, of many immoralities and evils. The spiritual power which once was the trait of a Muslim is nowhere to be seen. One of the main reasons for this is music and useless entertainment.

Harms and effects of music

We should be aware that nothing has been prohibited by the Almighty Creator except that which is harmful to the Muslims and the society as a whole. There are great harms and ill-effects of music.

Islam totally forbids adultery and also those things that lead to it. Allah Most High says:

“And do not come near to adultery, for it is a shameful deed and an evil, opening the road (to other evils)” (al-Isra, 32).

Islam does not only prohibit adultery and fornication, but also those things that may lead to it. This is the reason why the Qur’an orders Muslim men and Women to lower their gazes. It prohibits one from being alone with someone from the opposite sex (khalwa). Informal interaction with the opposite sex has also been made unlawful.

This is also one of the main reasons for the prohibition of music, as it effects one’s emotions, creates arousal, passion and excitement, and also leads to various physiological changes in the person. It is a psychological proven fact that two things are instrumental in arousing the human sexual desire, one being the voice of a female (for males) and the other music.

This is the reason why Allah Most High says:

“O wives of the prophet! You are not like other women, if you are god-fearing. So do not be soft in speech. Lest in whose heart is disease should be moved with desire.” (Surah al-Ahzab, v. 32).

Thus, Islam forbids listening to the female voice with lust and desire. The great Hanafi Jurist, Ibn Abidin (Allah have mercy on him) states:

“It is permissible for women to converse with non-Mahram men at the time of need (and visa versa, m). However, what is not permissible is that they stretch, soften and raise their voice in a melodious way” (Radd al-Muhtar, V.1, P. 406).

Similarly, it is also unlawful for women to listen to the voice of non-Mahram men with lust and desire. One of the great western thinkers said: “the voice is one of the quickest ways that make a woman fall in love with a man. This is the reason why many women adore singers”.

The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) was also wary of this fact when he said to the Companion Bara ibn Malik: “O Bara! Let not the women here your voice” (Kanz al-Ummal, 7/322). The same has also been reported from the Companion Anjasha (Allah be pleased with him).

Physical Effect of Music

Experiments carried out by doctors and researchers confirm that music is such that it does not only affect the brain, but each and every organ of the body. There is a close relationship between music and bodily movements.

It is also proved that music affects one’s emotions, increases arousal in terms of alertness and excitement and also leads to various psychological changes in the person. In a psychological experiment, it was found that listening to moderate type of music increased one’s normal heart beat, whilst listening to rock music the heart beat increased even further, yet people claim that music has no effect.

In conclusion, music and the instruments used for singing are a cause for arousing the sexual desire of an individual. It could lead a person to adultery and fornication. Therefore, Islam takes the preventive measure rather than suffer the consequences. This is also one of the principles of Islamic Jurisprudence, namely ‘blocking the means’ (sadd al-dhara'i). This is based on the idea of preventing an evil before it actually materializes, and is taken from the heart of the guidance of the Qur’an and Sunnah that, “Preventing harm is given precedence even to achieving possible benefits.”

Becoming Heedless of Allah

One of the harms of music is that it distracts one from his Creator. It serves as a temporary means of pleasure and satisfaction, which makes one forget who he really is and why he was created. This is the reason why musical instruments are known in the Arabic language as ‘malaahi’ meaning instruments that prevent one from the remembrance of Allah Almighty.

Human has been created for a noble purpose. Allah Most High says:

“I have created jinn and humans only that they serve (worship) me” (Surah al-Dhariyat, 56).

Music and temporary entertainments sink the human in physical pleasures and prevent him/her from true spiritual gains. In conclusion, music has a great role to play in preventing a human from realising the purpose of creation.

Un-Islamic Values

Another harm of music is that it instills the ideologies of the Non-Muslims in the heart and mind. The messages of today’s music follow a general theme of love, fornication, drugs and freedom.

We find that the whole world is obsessed with the Kufr idea of unrestrained freedom, i.e. freedom of speech and movement, etc… This idea of freedom, “it’s my life, I’ll do what I want” is a predominant theme of music today. It is used as a means of drilling western ideologies into the hearts and minds, which are totally contrary to Islamic values and teachings.

The Difference Between Legal Wisdom and Legal Reasons

The above are just some of the harms and evil effects of music. One must remember here that these are the wisdoms for the prohibition of music and not the reason (illah). The Shariah ruling is based upon the reason, and not the wisdom. In other words if the harms for the prohibition of music is taken care of, it does not make music permissible.

An example for this is that the wisdom behind the prohibition of wine and alcohol is that it creates enmity and hatred between people and it hinders one from the remembrance of Allah. The reason, however, is that it is an intoxicating substance. Now, if one was to say that wine will be Halal for me, as I will lock myself up after drinking wine, thus no destruction will be caused. Any sane person will conclude that he is wrong, as wine is Haram whether you cause any destruction and damage to others or not. The reason being, that the cause for the prohibition of wine is that it intoxicates you, regardless of whether the wisdom is present or not.

The same is with music. If one is saved from the abovementioned harms, even then music will still remain Haram. It can not be held lawful even if one is saved from its harms. This is a well established principle in the science of Usul al-Fiqh.

Ruling on musical instruments and unlawful singing

In the light of the evidences that will be mentioned later, the following are unlawful in Shariah:

a) Musical instruments that are exclusively designed for entertainment and dancing, and create charm, pleasure and bliss on their own (even without the singing), such as the drum, violin, guitar, fiddle, flute, lute, mandolin, harmonium, piano, string, etc… are impermissible to use under any circumstance.

There is a consensus of the whole Ummah on this. Since the first century, the Companions (sahaba), their followers (tabi’een), jurists (fuqaha) and the scholars have been generally unanimous on this ruling.

b) Singing that is a cause for a sin is also unlawful with the consensus of all the scholars, such as songs that prevent one from the obligatory (fard & wajib).

c) Any singing that is accompanied by other sins, such as songs that consist of unlawful, immoral, and sexual themes, or it is sang by non-Mahram women, etc will also be unlawful. This ruling is also with the consensus of all the scholars.

Evidences

There are numerous evidences in the Qur’an and Sunnah which support this view. We will attempt to look at a few:

1) Allah Most High says:

“And there are among men, those that purchase idle tales, to mislead (men) from the path of Allah and throw ridicule. For such there will be a humiliating punishment” (Surah Luqman, V. 6).

The great Companion Abd Allah ibn Mas’ud (Allah be pleased with him) states in the explanation of the word “idle tales”:

“By Allah its meaning is music” (Sunan al-Bayhaqi, 1/223 & authenticated by al-Hakim in his Mustadrak, 2/411).

Imam Ibn Abi Shayba related with his own transmission that He (Ibn Mas’ud) said:

“I swear By Him besides whom there is no God that it refers to singing” (132/5).

The great Companion and exegete of the Qur’an, Abd Allah ibn Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) states:

“The meaning of the word is music, singing and the like” (Sunan al-Bayhaqi, 1/221& Musannaf Ibn abi Shayba, 132/5).

He also stated:

“Music and the purchase of female singers” (Musannaf Ibn Abi Shayba, 132/5).

Hasan al-Basri (Allah be pleased with him) said:

“This verse was revealed in relation to singing and musical instruments” (Tafsir ibn Kathir, 3/442)

The same explanation has also been narrated from Mujahid, Ikrima, Ibrahim Nakha’i, Mak’hul and others (Allah be pleased with them all).

The above verse of the Qur’an, along with the statements regarding its meaning is clear in the prohibition of music. It also serves as a severe warning for those who are involved in the trade of music in any way, shape or form, as Allah warned them of “Humiliating punishment”.

As for those that say, the verse refers to things that prevent one from the remembrance of Allah and not music, do not contradict the aforementioned explanation. The interpretation of the verse with “things that prevent one from the remembrance of Allah” is a more general interpretation which includes music and song, as one of the foremost things that stop you from the remembrance of Allah is music. This is the reason why the majority of the exegetes of the Qur’an have interpreted the verse with music only, or with all those acts that prevent one from the truth with music being at the forefront.

2) Allah Most High says whilst describing the attributes of the servants of the Most Compassionate (ibad al-Rahman):

“Those who witness no falsehood, and if they pass by futility, they pass by it with honourable avoidance” (Surah al-Furqan, V. 72).

Imam Abu Bakr al-Jassas relates from Sayyiduna Imam Abu Hanifah (Allah be pleased with him) that the meaning of “falsehood (zur)” is music & song, (Ahkam al-Qur’an, 3/428).

3) Allah Most High said to Shaytan:

“Lead to destruction those whom you can among them with your (seductive) voice” (Surah al-Isra, V.64).

One of the great exegete, Mujahid (Allah have mercy on him) interpreted the word “voice (sawt)” by music, singing, dancing and idle things. (Ruh al-Ma’ani, 15/111).

Imam Suyuti (Allah have mercy on him) quoted Mujahid as saying: “Voice (in this verse) is singing and flute” (al-Iklil fi istinbat al-tanzil, 1444).

Another exegete, Dahhak (Allah have mercy on him) also interpreted the word “Sawt” with flutes. (Qurtubi, al-Jami` li Ahkam al-Qur’an, 10/288).

Here also, a general interpretation can be given, as indeed some commentators of the Qur ' an have done, but this, as mentioned earlier, does not contradict the meaning given by Mujahid and Dahhak, as it is included in the more broad and general meaning.

Guidance of the Messenger of Allah
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The are many Ahadith of the blessed Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) which prohibit music and the usage of musical instruments to the extent that some scholars have gathered approximately forty Ahadith, of which the chain of transmission of some is sound (sahih), some good (hasan) and some weak (da’if). We will only mention a few here:

1) Sayyiduna Abu Malik al-Ash’ari (Allah be pleased with him) reports that he heard the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) say: “There will appear people in my Ummah, who will hold adultery, silk, alcohol and musical instruments to be lawful” (Sahih al-Bukhari)

2) Abu Malik al-Ash’ari (Allah be pleased with him) narrates a similar type of Hadith, but a different wording. He reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Soon there will be people from my Ummah who will consume alcohol, they will change its name (by regarding it permissible. m), on there heads will be instruments of music and singing. Allah will make the ground swallow them up, and turn them into monkeys and swine” (Sahih Ibn Hibban & Sunan Ibn Majah, with a sound chain of narration).

In the above two narrations, the word ma`azif is used. The scholars of the Arabic language are unanimous on the fact that it refers to musical instruments (Ibn Manzur, Lisan al-Arab, V.9, P.189).

The prohibition of musical instruments is clear in the two narrations. The first Hadith (recorded in Sahih al-Bukhari) mentions that certain people from the Ummah of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace) will try to justify the permissibility of using musical instruments, along with adultery, silk and alcohol, despite these things being unlawful (haram) in Shariah.

Moreover, by mentioning music with the likes of adultery and alcohol just shows how severe the sin is. The one who attempts to permit music is similar to the one who permits alcohol or adultery.

The second Hadith describes the fate of such people in that the ground will be ordered to swallow them and they will be turned into monkeys and swine (may Allah save us all). The warning is specific to those that will hold music, alcohol, silk and adultery to be permissible. It is something that should be of concern for those who try and justify any of these things.

Also, to say that music will only be unlawful if it is in combination with alcohol, adultery and silk is incorrect. If this was the case, then why is it that the exception is only for music from the four things? The same could also be said for adultery, alcohol and silk. One may then even justify that alcohol and adultery is also permissible unless if they are consumed in combination with the other things!

Thus the above two narrations of the beloved of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) are clear proof on the impermissibility of music and songs.

3) Imran ibn Husain (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “This Ummah will experience the swallowing up of some people by the earth, metamorphosis of some into animals, and being rained upon with stones”. A man from amongst the Muslims asked: “O Messenger of Allah! When will this be?” He said: “When female singers and musical instruments appear and alcohol will (commonly) be consumed” (Recorded by Imam Tirmizi, Imam Ibn Majah in their respective Sunan collections, and the wording here is of Sunan Tirmizi).

4) Sayyiduna Ali ibn Talib (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the blessed Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “When my Ummah begin doing fifteen things, they will be inflicted with tribulations, and (from those 15 things He said): “When female singers and musical instruments become common” (Sunan Tirmizi).

5) Na’fi reports that once Abd Allah ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with them both) heard the sound of a Sheppard’s flute. He put his fingers in his ears, turned his mule away from the road and said: “O Nafi’! Can you hear? I (Nafi’) replied with the affirmative. He carried on walking (with his fingers in his ears) until I said: “the sound has ceased” He removed his fingers from his ears, came back on to the road and said: “I saw the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) doing the same when he heard the flute of the Sheppard” (Recorded by Imam Ahmad in his Musnad and Abu Dawud & Ibn Majah in their Sunans).

6) Abd Allah Ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Verily Allah has forbidden alcohol, gambling, drum and guitar, and every intoxicant is haram” (Musnad Ahmad & Sunan Abu Dawud).

7) Abu Umama (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace) said: “Allah Mighty and Majestic sent me as a guidance and mercy to believers and commanded me to do away with musical instruments, flutes, strings, crucifixes, and the affairs of the pre-Islamic period of ignorance” (Musnad Ahmad & Abu Dawud Tayalisi).

8) Abd Allah ibn Mas’ud (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Song makes hypocrisy grow in the heart as water does herbage” (Sunan al-Bayhaqi).

9) Anas (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace) said: “On the day of Resurrection, Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of whoever sits listening to a songstress” (Recorded by Ibn Asakir & Ibn al-Misri).

10)Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) reports that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Bell is the flute of Shaytan” (Sahih Muslim & Sunan Abu Dawud).

There are many more narrations of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace) in prohibition of musical instruments and unlawful singing. I have merely mentioned a few as an example.

The imam of the Shafi`i school, Imam Ibn Hajr al-Haytami gathered all these Ahadith which approximately total to forty in his excellent work ‘ Kaff al-Ra’a an Muharramat al-Lahw wa al-Sama’ , and then said: “All of this is explicit and compelling textual evidence that musical instruments of all types are unlawful” (2/270).

Statements of the Fuqaha

The great Hanafi jurist al-Kasani states:

“If a singer gathers people around him only to entertain them with his voice, then he will not be considered a upright person (a’dil), even though if he does not consume alcohol, as he will be considered the leader of sinners. If however, he only sings to himself in order to eradicate loneliness, then there is nothing wrong in doing so.

As far as the one who uses musical instruments is concerned, if the instruments themselves are not unlawful, such as the bamboo and tambourine, then there is nothing wrong with that and he will still be considered upright. However, if the instrument is unlawful, such as the lute and the like, then he will not be considered a upright person (to be a witness in the court. m), as these instruments can never be considered lawful” (Bada’i al-Sana’i, 6/269).

It is stated in Khulasat al-Fatawa:

“Listening to the sound of musical instruments is unlawful (haram), as the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Listening to songs is a sin” (4/345).

Ibn Humam, the great Hanafi Mujtahid makes a decisive statement in his famous Fath al-Qadir:

“Unlawful (haram) singing is when the theme of the song consists of unlawful things, such as the description of a particular living person’s beauty and features, the virtues of wine that provoke wine-drinking, the details and particulars of family affairs or those songs that mock and ridicule others.

However, songs that are free from such unlawful things and they consist of descriptions of the natural things, such as flowers and streams, etc… will be permissible. Yes, if they are accompanied by musical instruments, then it will be unlawful even if the song is full of advice and wisdom, not because of what the songs consist of, rather due to the musical instruments that are played with it.

And it is stated in the al-Mugni of Ibn Qudamah (Hanbali Madhhab) that musical instruments are of two types:

1) Unlawful, Such as those that are specially designed for entertainment and singing, like the flute and mandolin, etc…

2) Lawful, like the playing of the tambourine (daff) at weddings and other happy occasions” (Ibn Humam, Fath al-Qadir, 6/36).

The same has more or less been mentioned in the other Hanafi works also, such as al-Ikhtiyar, al-Bahr al-Ra’iq, al-Fatawa al-Hindiyya and others.

Imam an-Nawawi, the great Hadith and Shafi’i scholar states:

“It is unlawful to use or listen to musical instruments, such as, those which the drinkers are known for, like the mandolin, lute, cymbals, and flute. It is permissible to play the tambourine (daf) at weddings, circumcisions and other times, even if it has bells on its sides. Beating the Kuba, a long drum with a narrow middle, is also unlawful” (Mugni al-muhtaj, 4/429, & Reliance of the traveller, 775).

There are many other statements of the Fuqaha and scholars such al-Qurtubi, and each of the four Madhhabs, but due to the length of the article, I will suffice with the above.

As for those who hold music to be lawful usually present the Hadith of Sahih al-Bukhari in which two girls were singing in the presence of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and Sayyida A’isha (Allah be pleased with her).

However, the permissibility of music can not be justified with this Hadith. The Hadith expert, Ibn Hajr al-Asqalani has refuted this claim in length in his Fath al-Bari, 2/345).

Firstly, theses young girls were singing without any unlawful musical instruments and secondly, the content of the song was regarding war, thus perfectly lawful. Also, they were not professional singers as the words of the Hadith clearly indicate.

Some try to justify music with the Hadith in which the permissibility of playing the tambourine (daf) is mentioned.

However, as stated in the works of the Fuqaha, to play the tambourine is permissible at weddings, as it is not designed for sole entertainment and pleasure, rather for announcement, etc…

Conclusion

In the light of the above evidences from the Qur’an, sayings of our beloved Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace) and texts of the various Fuqaha, the following is the decisive ruling with regards to music:

Musical instruments that are solely designed for entertainment are unlawful, with or without singing. However, to play the tambourine (daf) at weddings (and other occasions according to some fuqaha) will be permissible.

As far as the songs are concerned, if they consist of anything that is unlawful or they prevent one from the obligatory duties, then they will be unlawful. However, if they are free from the abovementioned things (and they are not accompanied by instruments), then it will be permissible to sing them.

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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #6
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Well basically no. Music is NOT forbidden in Islam. You like to listen to music ...go ahead listen to it..but just don't become addictive to it...Islam is a religion of moderation and encourages us to do things in a moderate way...

There are scholars who say Music is not allowed...Others say it is allowed with some restrictions etc etc...So the matter is not settled even within Islam...so there is nothing wrong is listening to Music ...as long as you don't make music your "life" .... Like there are some people who close themselves in their rooms and listens to music all day and do nothing else!...Your social life should not get effected by music...

And yeah , stay on deen..Pray namaz and be a nice person..its not like you are listening to music and your mom say "Hey Yusra do this" and you yell at her " MOM! KEEP QUIET..I'm listening to my fav. song" lols...There are people like that...

So yeah , since the matter is "disputed" among Islamic scholars , you can choose those scholars who say Music is allowed in Islam ...

Keep enjoying Music ...


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Thread is posted in wrong section I think.
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Well basically no. Music is NOT forbidden in Islam. You like to listen to music ...go ahead listen to it..but just don't become addictive to it...Islam is a religion of moderation and encourages us to do things in a moderate way...

There are scholars who say Music is not allowed...Others say it is allowed with some restrictions etc etc...So the matter is not settled even within Islam...so there is nothing wrong is listening to Music ...as long as you don't make music your "life" .... Like there are some people who close themselves in their rooms and listens to music all day and do nothing else!...Your social life should not get effected by music...

And yeah , stay on deen..Pray namaz and be a nice person..its not like you are listening to music and your mom say "Hey Yusra do this" and you yell at her " MOM! KEEP QUIET..I'm listening to my fav. song" lols...There are people like that...

So yeah , since the matter is "disputed" among Islamic scholars , you can choose those scholars who say Music is allowed in Islam ...

Keep enjoying Music ...


Here is two scholars of Islam discussing the issue .. (The host of this show is Shabbir Ally...The BEST Islam defender/debator in the World...never seen a guy better than him..May Allah bless him...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFxu5zjwj0k
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #9
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here translated as Laanat on this halaling of music.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #10
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There should have been a rating system of posts' and also member's of SF, where if the rating's go in minus figures, members would be blacklisted or even banned from posting, or at the least their posts would need to be approved before publishing, Auzer would have been banned by now.

@Auzer, no offense, its just your posts, not you its sort of 'hate the sins, not the sinner'

@Salman_Hanafi, that signature you have was also previously said by Ml Yusufji rh or Ml Ilyasji rh, we have that in the 2nd part of the first point of the six points.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #11
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@pluto, I heard it from Sheikh Imtiaz, but always though someone else would have also said it, anyways
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #12
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #13
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There should have been a rating system of posts' and also member's of SF, where if the rating's go in minus figures, members would be blacklisted or even banned from posting, or at the least their posts would need to be approved before publishing, Auzer would have been banned by now.

@Auzer, no offense, its just your posts, not you its sort of 'hate the sins, not the sinner'
Well obviously! I don't expect "Lakeer k faqeers" to like my comments ...

People here on this forum are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo narrow-minded that it is not even funny anymore ...

So basically , even listening to Music is haram , watching T.V is haram , playing Video Games is haram , dancing is haram , etc ..everything is haram haram haram haram haram....Is there ANYTHING your pathetic interpretation of Islam allows? What should people do to enjoy their lives? Oh no , enjoying life is also haram ....
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #14
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Well obviously! I don't expect "Lakeer k faqeers" to like my comments ...

People here on this forum are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo narrow-minded that it is not even funny anymore ...

So basically , even listening to Music is haram , watching T.V is haram , playing Video Games is haram , dancing is haram , etc ..everything is haram haram haram haram haram....Is there ANYTHING your pathetic interpretation of Islam allows? What should people do to enjoy their lives? Oh no , enjoying life is also haram ....
What an ignorant post.

A lot of people don't pray 5 times a day. Is what they're doing not haraam? A lot of people drink alcohol and that is enjoyment for them. Is what they're doing not haraam? A lot of people hang out with girls and have relations with different girls every night. Is what they're doing not haraam?

People like you are the reason why we have problems in the ummah. You like to choose what you want to follow rather than what is the truth. It is called giving into one's desires and that itself is clearly haraam, as mentioned in the Qur'an. If there were more people like you, it would be impossible to distinguish a Muslim from a kaafir. You place more importance on the world rather than the hereafter.

And of course, you haven't read any of the fatawa posted earlier in this thread because you don't care what the Qur'an or the ahadeeth say. You're content that you've found some guy with a dissenting opinion to make your case, just how people are able to find others who can make halaal other things that are haraam, such as riba, zina, alcohol, haraam meat, etc.

To you and your kind, even if there was an ayah in the Qur'an that forbade music (and there is), you would say that it was for that time (just how you reject the ayah of the Qur'an about hijab). In that case, someone can say the entire Qur'an was "for that time" and you won't be able to argue with that person since that is your entire premise.

Seems like the modernist train of thought works this way:
"Hmm... let's copy the non-Muslims completely... oh, this is not compatible with Islam so let's just say that Islam only made it prohibited for a certain time period..."

Guess what happens when you go far enough with this train of thought? It is only the society and culture you grow up in that ends up restricting you. There's a reason why alcohol is so commonplace in a so-called Muslim country like Turkey: 99% of the population claims to be Muslim but a lot of them don't see drinking alcohol as sinful, despite being clearly forbidden in the Qur'an. Why? Because that is the cultural norm in Turkey nowadays. You're of a Pakistani background and I can guarantee you that if drinking alcohol was a norm in Pakistan, you'd be saying it is perfectly acceptable and not haraam. You say music is halaal because it is part of Pakistani culture. You say women who don't wear hijab are not sinning because not wearing hijab is also seen in Pakistani culture. If zina and gambling was part of Pakistani culture, you'd say that was halaal, too!
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #15
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[COLOR="#000000"]There should have been a rating system of posts' and also member's of SF, where if the rating's go in minus figures, members would be blacklisted or even banned from posting, or at the least their posts would need to be approved before publishing, Auzer would have been banned by now.

@Auzer, no offense, its just your posts, not you its sort of 'hate the sins, not the sinner'
are you suggesting that brother Auzer is on the wrong forum Allah bless him, maybe Allah encourages him to come here to learn some things from you brothers and he could be gradually developing from one thing to another InshaAllah.

Personally I don't deliberately listen to music apart from nasheeds, as as well as having religious discouragement, secular music tends to make me queezy nowadays and brings out my bad points, (I also suspect that it tends to get stored in part of the mind that is better filled up with the auditory memory of the verses of the Holy Qur'an).

However I am glad there are some scholars out there past and present who permit music within limits, because as someone who tries to encourage people to become Muslims I know that the prohibition against music is one big stumbling block for some potential Muslims. Especially for those whom music has been a big part of their lives.

(just in case there is anyone reading this who is in this category these links are for you http://www.therevival.co.uk/yusuf-al-qaradawi-on-music http://wayofmadinah.wordpress.com/20...view-of-music/ http://unity1.wordpress.com/2010/02/...llah-al-judai/)
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #16
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Grow up - are you seriously saying that listening to music is the same as zina? What's wrong with you brother? Which major scholar in our time from the reformist or liberal trends has deemed zina or gambling halal? What corrupt governments choose to do or military autocrats acting in the name of ''secularism'' do has no bearing or reflection on this discussion.

Why are you creating straw men? Listening to music is not a definitive issue - it is one where there is ample evidence of scholarly disagreement and controversy. It is best to leave it at that instead of acting like a playground bully. Your post is full of presenting false choices (its either my way or the highway sort of mentality - very ugly), self-righteousness and a horrible lack of knowledge about the scholarly discussion about music.

This sort of religious blackmail will not portray Islam has having a deep and meaningful alternative on how to live the good life. What type of religious discourse does not even tolerate a difference of opinion?

Shaykh Qaradawi is not ''some guy'' - he has been cited by the great scholar of our time Shaykh Abdullah Bin Bayyah as one of the ''Imams of the Muslims'' of this time.

The answer brother Auzeer gave is actually close to the fatwa that Shaykh Qaradawi issued (music is permissible but you must be a responsible and conscientious consumer of music) - so don't vent your frustrations on him - if you have an issue with this opinion take it up with Shaykh Qaradawi who in our age is the most influential scholar and jurist to hold such an opinion. If not I suggest you shut your mouth and adopt that most wonderful of injunctions - live and let live within the wonderfully expansive boundaries of f scholarly difference in opinion.

So often people don't have a clue about ijma - ijma isn't the idea that what the opinion of the majority of jurists or schools of law becomes religiously binding - it is the idea that the UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT of all scholars and schools of law and jurists becomes religiously binding. Very simple example is the following - murder is forbidden - there can be no disagreement about this matter. Another simple matter is respecting one's parents - there can be no disagreement about this matter. Furthermore, praying 5 times a day is certainly a matter where there can be no disagreement. Which jurist has ever disagreed on these matters? And the brother Auzeer was not even talking about these matters! But you roped in these ridiculous examples to make his position look untenable.....

You just used extreme examples that quite frankly have never been entertained in the juristic tradition of classical Islam to make the brother look ridiculous when in actual fact you exposed your own ignorance.

For shame - what a pathetic response to what was a very genuine inquiry. The answer to the opening post is very simple - there are different opinions on this issue - please read up on all the different opinions and then recognize that all of them are LEGITIMATE (they are all recognized opinions held by jurists of high standing - far higher standing than any of us). Then choose your own path and accept to live and let live and not be self-righteous in your decision.

This goes for people who do listen to music and then frown on those who do not listen to it for religious reasons aswell - everyone should learn to accept and respect the decision their brother/sister makes - after all these are all opinion that have a basis in our jurisprudence.
My response to Auzer is not to do with the fact that there is a minority opinion that permits listening to music. It is due to the fact that this guy has said things before that are in clear contradiction with established laws. He has said that there is no need for hijab, for example. If you don't know the context, it is better to not jump the gun and make an accusatory post like the one you've made. After he posted his opinion, he made snide remarks instead of responding properly. He did not even appreciate the responses given by other brothers, instead calling them "lakeer k faqeers" and "narrow-minded".

Furthermore, who are you to say that the punishment for listening to music is not the same as zina? The fact is, we do not know the severity of punishments and we cannot simply say that this or that act is worse than the other. This is because there are many things that have been shown to be worse than zina which we would not believe if someone told us but we know they are worse since there are ahadeeth to prove their severity. For example, the lowest form of riba is worse than the worst form of zina. Backbiting is also worse than zina. So who are you to say what is or what isn't worse than listening to music? There are many people who have legitimized riba in today's time, despite knowing that it is worse than zina. Why is riba worse than zina? Many ulama have said that it may be because riba destroys societies and is seen as harmless at first glance. We can even see this with music, where people who listen to it see it as a norm and there being nothing wrong with it.

Also, I was not referring to Sh Qaradawi (Auzer did not once mention Sh Qaradawi so why on earth are you even bringing him up?) but the fact that people like Auzer like to pick and choose what they want to follow. Sh Qaradawi also says that hijab is mandatory but does Auzer believe that? Of course not (he's made this abundantly clear before). Sh Qaradawi also says that suicide bombing/martyrdom operations are permissible methods of jihaad. What would Auzer have to say to that?

Picking and choosing religious opinions to suit one's personal belief/needs/wishes is something even those who don't have a madhhab (e.g. Salafis) say is tantamount to following one's desires and following shaytaan.

As for your claim that all religious opinions are legitimate: that is extremely laughable. Majority of ulama concede differences of opinion being valid on things that are not completely set in stone, such as where to place hands in prayer, how many takbeerat there are in the Eid salahs, when to pray 'Asr, etc. but they do not concede minority opinions to be valid opinions automatically - minority opinions are judged on the legitimacy of their claim. For example, there is a minority opinion that claims that eating any food served by Christians and Jews, even if it contains pork, is permissible but of course this is rejected outright by our ulama.

A person can legitimize every single evil deed in his life by shopping around for minority opinions.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #17
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I want to know what islam says about music
because i love to listen music
just want to know that it is forbidden in islam and why?

please help

Walaikum Assalam sister!

Almost every Hadith which talks against music also speaks against drinking (alcohol), doing zina with girls etc. So these Ahadith criticize that kind of music which can arouse sexual desires and can lead a person to drinking and zina etc. According to those scholars, the music used in Qawali etc doesnt arouse sexual desires, but incites the love of Allah and His Prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم), so it does not come under the prohibited category.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rCHy5XXz6k
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #18
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I heard in a bayan our beloved Prophet SAW quickly moved very very far away blocking his ears with his blessed fingers on hearing someone playing flute. And he SAW told that he was sent to eradicate the musical intruments and here are muslims who are trying to promote it standing against the Prophet SAW. What a sad state!

It is not just about arousing sexual desire thing but Prophet SAW told that music grows nifaaq in the hearts as the water grows the plants. This itself is enough to keep us away from these instruments of shayateen. The consequence of this nifaaq is seen widely today for the person is entirely different than he is posing to be.

May be read this.
Best thing is to listen to bayans related to Music like the one here. This is a urdu bayan though.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #19
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btw, if you look closely, the OP has greater problems than music!!
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM   #20
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Leaving aside OP, I feel sad that some Muslims are trying to justify hearing Music. Ya Allah! where we are heading!
We have become so senseless when it comes to sins and I see even muslims write that hearing music as their hobbies. We as muslims are not guilty of hearing music and we don't stop saying it outside. Music coming out from muslims houses have become so very common. Naudhubillah! Let Allah SWT protect us all and grant us all the life of piety. Ameen
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