[pouslytut]

''Mufti'' Ali Gomaa claims Ahmad Shafiq (Mubarak era) is closer to Allah than Muhammad Morsi (Muslim Brotherhood) current president of Egypt

http://www.ibnpercy.com/mufti-ali-go...res-candidate/

http://en.aswatmasriya.com/news/view...0-b18711bf9a38

[Kdgjhytiy]

Salam Alaykum,

I am not sure whether such an issue would be as clear-cut as the original poster would want to make it seem. The reason is thatfor the opposite to be established, we would need a text from the Islamic sources telling us that Mursi is closer to Allah than Shafiq, and such a text is obviously not forthcoming, so any opinions given by Mufti Gomaa or any other 'Aalim are just that - his opinions.

[Bromikka]

''Mufti'' Ali Gomaa claims Ahmad Shafiq (Mubarak era) is closer to Allah than Muhammad Morsi (Muslim Brotherhood) current president of Egypt

http://www.ibnpercy.com/mufti-ali-go...res-candidate/

http://en.aswatmasriya.com/news/view...0-b18711bf9a38

Salam Alaykum,

I am not sure whether such an issue would be as clear-cut as the original poster would want to make it seem. The reason is thatfor the opposite to be established, we would need a text from the Islamic sources telling us that Mursi is closer to Allah than Shafiq, and such a text is obviously not forthcoming, so any opinions given by Mufti Gomaa or any other 'Aalim are just that - his opinions.

Does Mufti Ali Gomaa teach at Bury Darululoom

[pissmanvd]

There has been a Medieval understanding of the role of State in a Muslim polity; upholding of Islamic Law.

Once that duty was discharged, any form of Tyranny was acceptable to the Doctors of Religious Science of Islam.

Ayatollah Khomeini broke with that understanding and condemned Tyranny as anti-Islamic.

I do not know the position of Doctors of Al Azhar on this subject.

[plaiskegizils]

Salam Alaykum,

I am not sure whether such an issue would be as clear-cut as the original poster would want to make it seem. The reason is thatfor the opposite to be established, we would need a text from the Islamic sources telling us that Mursi is closer to Allah than Shafiq, and such a text is obviously not forthcoming, so any opinions given by Mufti Gomaa or any other 'Aalim are just that - his opinions.

It's a shame how a ''grand mufti'' of an islamic country Egypt first condemns the revolution in Egypt and supports Mubarak then afterwards Mubarak is gone but his old comrade Shafiq runs for president and instead of supporting and praising a more islamic candidate Morsi he praises Shafiq and claims according to the original poster that he Shafiq a secularist is closer to Allah.

[Patabeamn]

Ayatollah Khomeini broke with that understanding and condemned Tyranny as anti-Islamic.

'Ayatollah' (or 'the miracle of Allah') Khomeini himself was a tyrant and murderer. He execute thousands of political prisoners and opponents. The regime he founded defends and supports tyranny (i.e. Bashar al-Assad).

[MpbY5dkR]

Mods, we are in desperate need of a gossip section nowadays it seems.
The amount of junk threads created in general Islam is mind blowing.

[fluistulkn]

Mods, we are in desperate need of a gossip section nowadays it seems.
The amount of junk threads created in general Islam is mind blowing.

Junk foods and fizzy drinks taking their toll. gossip thread should be junked

[timgillmoreeztf]

The real question Mufti Ali Goma should be considering is who is closer to Allah out of

Mufti Ali Goma and Dr. Muhammad Morsi?


In Syria the once highly respected Mufti Ramadan Bouti has lost the respect of the Syrian people by clinging to the old anti-Islam regime for whatever reason. Mufti Ali Goma should perhaps bear his own position in mind in this light too, but more importantly maybe he should consider whether it is possible to sustain his own freindship with the old power structure at the same time as maintaining his relationship with Allah.

[jamemeveRhype]

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Salam Alaykum,

I know that what Shaykh Buti and Mufti Gomaa said seem to be quite strange, but it is not up to us to anathematize them. I am sure if someone were to tread through the sayings of any given ordinary Muslim, they would find enough 'dirt' to perhaps have him Islamically executed. This is why the 'Ulama in most cases will say that 'such and such belief is disbelief' rather than specifying on 'such and such person is a disbeliever'.

Specifically about this thread it is best if the Muftis and Shaykhs on board if this discussion serves any purpose.

[Escamsrasiush]

The problem is can we still rely on such Mufti's and so called Shaykh if they side with the enemies of Islam and even facilitate their governance?

[ElectraDupu]

Can someone first provide the context of his statement? Translate the speech in full?

Does Mr.European thinker know arabic ?

[BqTyG9eS]

Can someone first provide the context of his statement? Translate the speech in full?

Does Mr.European thinker know arabic ?

My arabic is not sufficient i relied on the lecture posted by the original poster.

http://www.ibnpercy.com/mufti-ali-go...res-candidate/

[JosephNF]

The problem is can we still rely on such Mufti's and so called Shaykh if they side with the enemies of Islam and even facilitate their governance?

This is a Muslim wide problem

we have so many out of touch imams.

[Pateeffelty]

My arabic is not sufficient i relied on the lecture posted by the original poster.

http://www.ibnpercy.com/mufti-ali-go...res-candidate/

In short you have no clue and you did taqlid of some random blogger. Your a credible europeanthinker. Welldone.

[lXvtm0ox]

In short you have no clue and you did taqlid of some random blogger. Your a credible europeanthinker. Welldone.

Check the video you'll find out.

[Mappaindy]

Check the video you'll find out.

Have you checked the video ? Did you understand it? Then do translate in your words the speech and its full context here. If not your better off zipping your mouth. Agree ?

[NikkitaZ]

^

Salam Alaykum,

I know that what Shaykh Buti and Mufti Gomaa said seem to be quite strange, but it is not up to us to anathematize them. I am sure if someone were to tread through the sayings of any given ordinary Muslim, they would find enough 'dirt' to perhaps have him Islamically executed. This is why the 'Ulama in most cases will say that 'such and such belief is disbelief' rather than specifying on 'such and such person is a disbeliever'.

Specifically about this thread it is best if the Muftis and Shaykhs on board if this discussion serves any purpose.

As salaam alaikum wa rahmatullah,

The reason why such a stance or statement is seen to be of great significance or great consequence is due to the individuals status or standing. In Surah az-Zumar, Allah ('azaa wa jal) says, ' Say, "Are those who know equal to those who do not know?" Only they will remember [who are] people of understanding.'

[catermos]

Have you checked the video ? Did you understand it? Then do translate in your words the speech and its full context here. If not your better off zipping your mouth. Agree ?

I find the original poster trustworthy.

[Tic Tac Took]

I find the original poster trustworthy.

Some random bloggers two liner comment is enough to accuse a scholar (portrayed as stupidly as "supporting the enemies of Islam"), who's knowledge and service for Islam is million times greater than your own ? Do you recognise that your like a hair ball infront of the mufti ?