[Tuqofiw]

I know this doesn't specifically have to do with Islam, but I guess we could say one guy that is an "option" for marriage is a Saudi. I can't find any information by the Saudi government on if we can marry or not. The US page says that we can, but need KSA government permission... but it contains absolutely no details on how to pursue this.

I'm not looking for marriage advice, just whether or not an American can marry a Saudi, and possibly the steps to do so.

[grofvuri]

Yes, I believe you can marry a Saudi man. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_931.html

It looks like he has to apply for permission to marry you. Here is an interesting blog that might help you sort out the process.

[soineeLom]

Arab countries do not allow people from there to marry outsiders. And being a Muslim is no exception. I think its even harder if you are a Muslim.

Thats just how they are wired. Nothing to do with deen its their own insecurities

Inshallah with your quest.

[Reocourgigiot]

its not like pakistanis or somalis or bangladeshis are exactly "cool" with their youth marrying "outsiders" either so dont pin this on arabs

[Darnisg]

its not like pakistanis or somalis or bangladeshis are exactly "cool" with their youth marrying "outsiders" either so dont pin this on arabs

Yeah but it's not illegal like it is with Saudi

[YpbWF5Yo]

its not like pakistanis or somalis or bangladeshis are exactly "cool" with their youth marrying "outsiders" either so dont pin this on arabs

Yip, same old cultural stuff, and I thought muslims would be different...Not.

[forotis]

Yip, same old cultural stuff, and I thought muslims would be different...Not.

Generally Muslims can marry any Muslim however I have heard old school scholars say it is better for the marriage if one marries a person from their own status group, ethnicity etc. as going out of these puts more of a strain on a marriage.

[creewespock]

Yeah but it's not illegal like it is with Saudi

again quick to look at saudi rather than your own community

Saudi is a "western backed stooge", whats your excuse?

[Illisezek]

Generally Muslims can marry any Muslim however I have heard old school scholars say it is better for the marriage if one marries a person from their own status group, ethnicity etc. as going out of these puts more of a starin on a marriage.

well these people are entitled to their opinions as long as they dont force it on the youth. would these be the same elders who choose their childrens souses before that child is even born?

[xT0U3UGh]

Yip, same old cultural stuff, and I thought muslims would be different...Not.

i knw, disappointing isnt it. i fear for converts.

my only consolation is that its musims and not islam thats at fault

[OlegSan]

again quick to look at saudi rather than your own community

Saudi is a "western backed stooge", whats your excuse?

People tend to admire people like themselves it is natural...someone from your own village is trustworthy and someone from a distant village is suspect, that is the way of the world not biggie. However after all the judgement and narrow mindedness is put aside people should be able to look past the differences. If Saudis make it illigal for their nationals to marry others they are making it impossible to do.

[Allorneadesee]

again quick to look at saudi rather than your own community

Saudi is a "western backed stooge", whats your excuse?

I was 'quick to look at Saudi' because this thread was about marrying a Saudi citizen and then you came along with your quip about asians being THE SAME and I merely explained that it is not the same since the difference is LEGAL.

Regarding 'my excuse', why should I have an excuse for something I have no part in? Why get all aggressive for no reason? Literally, you think everyone on here is gunning for Saudi and leaves the subcontinent alone whereas I have more posts on here aimed at subcontinent problems than at Saudi problems

[97dYA9L3]

Generally Muslims can marry any Muslim however I have heard old school scholars say it is better for the marriage if one marries a person from their own status group, ethnicity etc. as going out of these puts more of a strain on a marriage.

I've heard this also and sorry but I do not agree with this stance. I have seen ethnic asians marry western 'converts', no problem, alhamdulIllah.

[Prosocorneliay]

Abu Fatimah...again you are making an issue where an issue doesnt exist...nobody is agreeing with indians and pakistanis not allowing their kids to marry out of their race...they are discussing the law in Saudi and still you become defensive??

Again your turning the thread into a race/sectarian issue

there are people on here who go to extremes when criticizing saudis...but you have gone to another extreme where as a counter attack you feel it necessary to attack Asians...even though they openly admit that there are problems with their own government and culture :s

[Prosocorneliay]

I've heard this also and sorry but I do not agree with this stance. I have seen ethnic asians marry western 'converts', no problem, alhamdulIllah.

Alhamdulillah, you do not have to agree, the scholars were writing in the 1940s in India, so they might hold different views now if they were still alive...but some people may still agree with the scholar...the point is it is not necessarily a bad thing or racism if some Muslims choose to remain within their own ethnicity.

[lovespellszz]

I was told that it is very difficult to marry a Saudi woman.

If you are a white man with plenty of money then the government might grant permission.

Otherwise, forget it.

[eladiopsislab]

Abu Fatimah...again you are making an issue where an issue doesnt exist...nobody is agreeing with indians and pakistanis not allowing their kids to marry out of their race...they are discussing the law in Saudi and still you become defensive??

Again your turning the thread into a race/sectarian issue

there are people on here who go to extremes when criticizing saudis...but you have gone to another extreme where as a counter attack you feel it necessary to attack Asians...even though they openly admit that there are problems with their own government and culture :s

its hypoicritical for asians of deobandi manhaj to sit around criticising saudi all day without giving a mention to their own communities.

There is a reason people here wish to focus on the problems with saudi, arabs and salafis

[qQVXpYM6]

its hypoicritical for asians of deobandi manhaj to sit around criticising saudi all day without giving a mention to their own communities.

There is a reason people here wish to focus on the problems with saudi, arabs and salafis

the focus on Saudi is due to it being the hub for Muslims
nobody here denys the problems with indo/pak government or culture...we all know they have massive issues

if the people here were denying their own issues and just picking on Saudi i would understand your point...and then i would agree that is is a race issue and a sectarian issue

im not saying its correct for everyone to bash Saudi all the time...i think the government has done some good things too...my only issue is that your turning it into a race/sectarian issue and your defence is to turn around and bash Asians whereas we are not denying our issues

People are not just bashing saudi because they are salafi because a lot of what they do is also opposed by the salafi scholars...do you honestly think people like Shaykh Haytham would agree with much of the decisions of the government?

[Keeriewof]

There many threads where Asians have dissed even their own communities! So how does your point even stand to being with? I have spoken against my Bangladeshi community regarding many things, from the topic of government to culture!

It's really funny how you try to say this is a Deobandi thing, just look at the Salafis, they will criticise anything that is not even from their quarters, last time i had a "Salafi" saying what HMC are doing wrong. Tableeghi is a wrong blah blah, it's good to criticise, but what have YOU done for gaining ACCESS to REAL Halal meat in your Country and for your people? what have you done to call people at Grass Root level to Islam? everyone has pros and cons.

but sitting like some arm chair shaykh is not really going to help, this goes to Salafis and Non Salafis.

[WumibBesowe]

What does the term "Deobandi Manhaj" got to do with the thread? =S.

The thread was about Saudi, not about Salafi. So it could have simply been "Asian". Why bring up Deobandi in here?

It seems you are becoming the same whom you used to criticize. This is what frustration does to a person.

And Allah knows best.