[StivRichardOff]

Would it be permissible to sterilise people in islam?

[Wr8dIAUk]

[Trebbinsa]

Would it be permissible to sterilise people in islam? The aborigines for examlple?

No, of course not. It would involve needlessly changing what is natural. It is also racist against the aborigines (and this racist tactic has been used time and time again in different areas of the world). It is also inhumane to force innocent people to do something against their will - regardless of whether they are Muslim or non-Muslim. It also needlessly introduces harm to the person's health.

[avaiguite]

No, of course not. It would involve needlessly changing what is natural. It is also racist against the aborigines (and this racist tactic has been used time and time again in different areas of the world). It is also inhumane to force innocent people to do something against their will - regardless of whether they are Muslim or non-Muslim. It also needlessly introduces harm to the person's health.

'Racism' was a term invented by Leon Trotsky, the marxist jew. So whether an act falls into his category of 'racist', has no bearing on right or wrong, even though everyone today considers racism to be the most evil thing ever.

As to your second thing, the whole point is to sterilise them so they don't have kids.

[replicamuse]

'Racism' was a term invented by Leon Trotsky, the marxist jew. So whether an act falls into his category of 'racist', has no bearing on right or wrong, even though everyone today considers racism to be the most evil thing ever.

As to your second thing, the whole point is to sterilise them so they don't have kids.

Are you out of your mind? What possible Islamic allowance could there be for forcibly sterilizing a particular minority group?

[Leaters]

Are you out of your mind? What possible Islamic allowance could there be for forcibly sterilizing a particular minority group?

Well, they seem like they can't be fixed.

[AsmViktor]

'Racism' was a term invented by Leon Trotsky, the marxist jew. So whether an act falls into his category of 'racist', has no bearing on right or wrong, even though everyone today considers racism to be the most evil thing ever.

As to your second thing, the whole point is to sterilise them so they don't have kids.

Are you a Muslim or a racial supremacist?

Islam does not allow for discrimination based upon race.

Racism is something that has existed before any "marxist jew" invented the term and it has been identified before. If his definition of racism is to give privilege or to oppress a person or a people based on their physical appearance, then that definition has already existed in Islam when Rasoolullah told us that the only real distinguishing quality between people is taqwa, not the colour of their skin or their facial features.

We can even step back from the issue of racism and we'll realize that dhulm is not allowed in Islam - and racism is a form of dhulm, regardless of who defined it.

[phinno13]

Are you a Muslim or a racial supremacist?

You can't infer that I think one race is superior to others based on this thread.

[Dvjkefdw]

You can't infer that I think one race is superior to others based on this thread.

Yes, I can because you just said that the aborigines "can't be fixed" - as if an entire race needs fixing.

[benderkoz]

Well, they seem like they can't be fixed.

Why is your username 'uber_mensch' and why are you essentially speaking in Hitlerese except with aborigines as the target?

[forotis]

Yes, I can because you just said that the aborigines "can't be fixed" - as if an entire race needs fixing.

If they spend all day being drunk, sniffing petrol harassing people on public transport and living on the dole, then yes, they need fixing.

[qp0yfHOf]

If they spend all day being drunk, sniffing petrol harassing people on public transport and living on the dole, then yes, they need fixing.

Then you are a racist and hold beliefs that contradict Islamic teachings. Many people hold similar beliefs, but against brown people, Asians, Arabs, and most of all, blacks.

[induffike]

If they spend all day being drunk, sniffing petrol harassing people on public transport and living on the dole, then yes, they need fixing.

So this is what all aborigines do all day?

Man, how do you guys live in Australia at all, what with all these 517,000 people on the dole and sniffing petrol and harassing people?

Oh wait, some are probably kids. Okay, so all 250,000 of these people on the dole, et cetera...

[U5pz6B71]

Would it be permissible to sterilise people in islam? The aborigines for examlple?

brother the Aborigines are a beautiful people from the children of Adam (as), having different races makes the world much more interesting.

their current social problems and alcoholism are a product of western colonialism not of their dna,

they were fine before they had their land and freedom stolen and their way of life destroyed.

all they need is Islam and freedom.


and they are both coming InshaAllah

http://muslimvillage.com/2011/03/28/...im-aborigines/

[bingookenoo]

The vices mentioned are not only limited to the aborigines. The same thing happened with the Native Americans. The same vices are with most races in the world. Why not sterilize the Irish as well? They are well known for their drinking.

Such thinking is wrong.

[Misiotoagodia]

If they spend all day being drunk, sniffing petrol harassing people on public transport and living on the dole, then yes, they need fixing.

Lol. "A Menace to Society".

But the sad truth is, everyone needs fixing in some form or another, and us included.

The companions, during their jahiliya times, even the two great super powers at the time, the Romans and the Persians, who were busy fighting with each other and expanding their teritorries, would not want to bother with the Arab tribes. Their land didn't have any resources. There was no comparison to how low their jahiliya akhlaq was. And our Beloved Prophet used to seclude himself away from the cities, away from all the jahiliya parties and all that.

But once they accept Islam, Allah made them the best people of all people that nobody from future generations could bypass them in terms of their akhlaq, sacrifices they made, their taqwa and so forth.

Perhaps brother this is a good chance for you to organize a jemaah and to introduce Islam to them?

Allah Knows Best.

[wrenjmerg]

Mercy and patience come to mind here.

In contrast, eugenics comes to mind. There is no end to such arrogant notions. May Allah (SWT) protect us from such evils. Ameen.

[comprar-espana]

Then you are a racist and hold beliefs that contradict Islamic teachings. Many people hold similar beliefs, but against brown people, Asians, Arabs, and most of all, blacks.

So, reality is racist?

their current social problems and alcoholism are a product of western colonialism not of their dna,

A common argument, which I don't accept. Human beings have free will, simply blaming it on 'evil white people' is merely refusing to accept responsibility for one's actions.

So if you're saying aboriginals don't have free will to choose not to behave as they do, then that seems to lead us to the conclusion that they are less than humans who do have free will.

[maniaringsq]

So, reality is racist?



A common argument, which I don't accept. Human beings have free will, simply blaming it on 'evil white people' is merely refusing to accept responsibility for one's actions.

So if you're saying aboriginals don't have free will to choose not to behave as they do, then that seems to lead us to the conclusion that they are less than humans who do have free will.

I don't understand. Either you believe these people are genetically predisposed to all the vices you mentioned, or you believe that they choose to indulge in them of their own free will. If it's the former, you need to bring scientific evidence. If it's the latter, sterilizing people is pointless.

[malishka1025]

So, reality is racist?



A common argument, which I don't accept. Human beings have free will, simply blaming it on 'evil white people' is merely refusing to accept responsibility for one's actions.

So if you're saying aboriginals don't have free will to choose not to behave as they do, then that seems to lead us to the conclusion that they are less than humans who do have free will.

it is you who is implying racial determination of behaviour and implying that Aborigines don't have free will

- implying that the drunks and glue sniffers amongst them are so because of their race - this is clear.

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There are many many historical and social factors that have lead to the low current state of some Aborigines, leave them alone.

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Allah made the Aborigines are you accusing him of making mistakes and making peoples who need exterminating?