[WaydayFep]

If anyone wants to see hypocrisy being peddled openly then one only has to visit India and see it for themselves.

Our own ------------- [graduate from Darul Uloom Google] who hasn't the faintest idea about the conditions of Muslims in India or of the challenges facing them thought it fit to pass a snide remark by asking - What was Darul Uloom Deoband doing to help Muslims in Syria

Anyways,

a) 2 Muslims died last week, Sat the 11th, Aug 2012 in Mumbai as more than 5000 Muslims protested against the atrocities committed against the alleged Bangladeshi Muslims in Assam - those atrocities were committed in the early part of Ramadhan 1433/2012.

b) Officially, they say 70 Muslims were killed and 4,00,000 who were displaced in Assam - you can only imagine what the actual figures are. [Our reports say the situation is worst than Gujarat '02]

c) The kuffar media in India collectively and grossly under-reported the atrocities - very surprising considering they did the opposite with regards to the Gujarat riots in 2002. Can anyone who closely follows Indian politics guess the reason?

Well, my fellow people, don't for a moment think the India media was a sympathizer in circa 2002, just that the 'secular' yet very powerful Indian National Congress party was out of power from '99 till mid '04 while the BJP - a outspoken Hindu sympathizer backed by a Hindu Terrorist organization, the RSS, were in power. So, the out of power, Congress used every trick [its minions in the media] in the book to defame the BJP in the national and international media while when the same things [or even more as other reports tell us] are being done in the open 10 years later, it has more or less asked the Indian media to shut shop regarding Assam.

d) Yet, the thread isn't about that, its about the mass exodus of Assamese from many parts of the country, Bombay, Hyderabad and Bangalore among others. They are leaving in the thousands in every city and the reason - sms's that they say are from Muslims threatening to kill them after Ramadhan.

See this here

Believe it or not, right from the Prime Minister to any regional media, these exodus of people is being so widely covered and the leaders of these Assamese people are openly calling us terrorists, they are being so hugely sympathized with its amazing where were all these people when the poor Muslims were being killed by Bodo militants [they aren't terrorists, just militants], their houses burnt to ground, their women raped right in Ramadhan.

The hypocrite Sonia Gandhi, de facto PM of the country pays a visit to them just about 2-3 days back even then there are still reports of bodies of Muslims being found here and there.

None of them and esp. the media reported the atrocities - the bombay protest were primarily for that as to why the plight of the Muslims is going unreported.

So, ------------...Jamiat Ulamah e Hind are working round the clock and much of the zakat, sadaqah, fitrah this year is going to Assam.
Darul Uloom Google will tell you and others more about this.

[strongjannabiz]

Not sure what your point is. I asked wht the deobandi mosques in europe arent raising money in their network of mosques for the syrian mujahideen for weapons as you get half teh reward of jihad for buying weapons to arm teh mhujahideen and america has actually passed a law allowing arms to be sent by charities so we cant be stopped legally. I was only making the point because of how many of you sit around cussing and accusing salafis and saudis al the damn time when you havent sorted your own damn house out first. The rulers represent teh people so if your in a bad way then the rulers will be also, so if you dont help your muslim bretheren then dont expect teh rulers to and dont hold doubel standards by just banging on about saudi. That was my point.

I never said deobandis didn't do anything to help their subcontinent brothers in india

[PolPitasc]

Relax brothers - perhaps there was a miscommunication.
Incidentally the first help collection by Jamiat-e-Ulema-e-Hind from our town was of about four million rupees.

[spravka.ua]

Not sure what your point is. I asked wht the deobandi mosques in europe arent raising money in their network of mosques for the syrian mujahideen for weapons as you get half teh reward of jihad for buying weapons to arm teh mhujahideen and america has actually passed a law allowing arms to be sent by charities so we cant be stopped legally. I was only making the point because of how many of you sit around cussing and accusing salafis and saudis al the damn time when you havent sorted your own damn house out first. The rulers represent teh people so if your in a bad way then the rulers will be also, so if you dont help your muslim bretheren then dont expect teh rulers to and dont hold doubel standards by just banging on about saudi. That was my point.

I never said deobandis didn't do anything to help their subcontinent brothers in india

If we sit around all the damn time accusing the Salafis, at-least when I do, I have a pretty good reason for that, and you'll only know that when you leave home and see the fitnah they are committing beyond the academic differences. Don't believe me at all.

Regarding your last point, its duly acknowledged.

Yet the thread is addressed to every single Muslim.

[c-cialis]

Relax brothers - perhaps there was a miscommunication.
Incidentally the first help collection by Jamiat-e-Ulema-e-Hind from our town was of about four million rupees.

Bhai, they say the situation is worse than Gujarat 2002, how? Its all happening in Assam where the Bodo terrorists have been armed to the teeth since long, their list of atrocities / oppression is not new too.

[herawaq]

Bhai, they say the situation is worse than Gujarat 2002, how? Its all happening in Assam where the Bodo terrorists have been armed to the teeth since long, their list of atrocities / oppression is not new too.

There are other factors also.
History of communal riots in India is rather lengthy but some patterns have been recognized. These are not rights but pogroms in which Muslims are butchered repeatedly.
Another pattern was that these incidents took place in those cities where Muslims had business - to ruin Muslim business and economy.

In Assam we recently saw the success of Maulana Badruddin Ajmal recently - he did what has not happened till now in India - consolidation of Muslim votes and sending of MLAs to the Assam Assembly. This has been an eye sore to the detractors of Islam and Muslims.

Abu Fatima is concerned Muslim and he does react visibly to any situation - I do not find that questionable in any way. When he does not have info it is our duty to furnish that politely. You shall agree that we ourselves do not have much info about our brothers in that area. So there. Similarly about the Burma case. I know a Maulana from North-East who some times tells me about some of the happenings in Burma otherwise before that we knew nothing about the situation there. The whole focus was on Aung San Su Kyi.

[lodsemelf]

There are other factors also.
History of communal riots in India is rather lengthy but some patterns have been recognized. These are not rights but pogroms in which Muslims are butchered repeatedly.
Another pattern was that these incidents took place in those cities where Muslims had business - to ruin Muslim business and economy.

In Assam we recently saw the success of Maulana Badruddin Ajmal recently - he did what has not happened till now in India - consolidation of Muslim votes and sending of MLAs to the Assam Assembly. This has been an eye sore to the detractors of Islam and Muslims.

Abu Fatima is concerned Muslim and he does react visibly to any situation - I do not find that questionable in any way. When he does not have info it is our duty to furnish that politely. You shall agree that we ourselves do not have much info about our brothers in that area. So there. Similarly about the Burma case. I know a Maulana from North-East who some times tells me about some of the happenings in Burma otherwise before that we knew nothing about the situation there. The whole focus was on Aung San Su Kyi.

You are right about the first part.
Regarding AF, I mostly answer to his cumulative posts. Yeah, he is concerned in an altogether different way. When he does not have info, its his duty to ask politely. But I didn't talk about him at all in my previous post

[replicajoy]

Although I'm still waiting for more accurate detailed information to portray the strife in Assam in religious colors, since tribal and ethnic color is a real possibility, yet i agree with the main point of the thread. That was exactly my feelings too. The whole media and politcians were in full show of force to explain, protect and console Assamese migrants. Yet nothing whatsoever even came close to such show of support on muslims when they were being driven out by real physical violence. I have no grudge against Assamese or think they somehow should not be protected but only say that such support should have been given to Muslims too.

[Seiblybiozy]

Although I'm still waiting for more accurate detailed information to portray the strife in Assam in religious colors, since tribal and ethnic color is a real possibility, yet i agree with the main point of the thread. That was exactly my feelings too. The whole media and politcians were in full show of force to explain, protect and console Assamese migrants. Yet nothing whatsoever even came close to such show of support on muslims when they were being driven out by real physical violence. I have no grudge against Assamese or think they somehow should not be protected but only say that such support should have been given to Muslims too.

Definitely no violence need be shown against the assamese, I feel it should even be condemned by our own leaders, yet this mollycoddling of the assamese people when there are still attacks by the bodos on Muslims [9 were injured yesterday in acid attacks in assam] is hard to digest.

Also, there should not have been even that protest in Mumbai by our people, why? Simply because the Hindu terrorists can take advantage of the situation. Muslims in India, I believe, are between the devil and the deep sea. May Allah SWT protect us. Ameen.

We'll carry forward the discussion post Eid

[Ygxejxox]

whats happening to north eastern people in Bangalore, Hyderabad and Pune, was it only rumors were they attacked aswell? Its disgusting the way BJP and whole of NDA are blaming only Bangladeshis (codeword for all the muslims in Assam) for the violence in Assam. I hope congress kicks their butt again in 2014

[Thomaswhitee]

Hindu fanatics are coward people.

On the day of Judgement, they ll see

[CymnMaync]

RE: syria

madina masjid in batley, uk (smallish deobandi mosque serving a smallish community) raised over £76,000 in one night for syria. this figure will now be more as money keeps coming in.