[AbeldeldepBug]

Anyone know the social, economic and political situation of Islam and Muslims in both countries?

How influential are they compared to say Turkey in the global arena.

Anyone?

[wallyfindme]

both facing heavy secularizations, Christianization , and infected by blind nationalism
malaysia and indonesia, brothers with "Sibling rivalry" situation
and in global arena? not that influential

currently in global area, no muslims majority nations have so much power, most their government are nothing just pawns of Western and Allies or BRIC nations
including malaysia and indonesia

and IMO Turkey is slightly more influential

[vRmy0Fzg]

Socially, Indonesia has more than 1100 ethnics and tribes in Indonesia, with approx more than 750 different languages between the nation. Moslem population roughly cover up to 85% of total population with major tribes (like Java, Sunda, Padang, Banjar, Bugis, Lombok, Aceh) are mainly moslem. Differences with Malaysia, that Chinesse and Indiani are also present as their citizen of Malaysia, although Melayu (moslty moslem) is considered the main tribes there. Therefore,we can see several differences regarding social background of between countries. Economically, roughly, our Malaysian bothers are 'considered' have higher living standard than their fellow Indonesian. And in general, political situation between two countries is rather 'volatile' tough still in good shape, mainly caused by theme of workers from Indonesia, border between two countries issue.

Comparing to Turkey ? dunno... maybe others can add more info.

Salam

[Adwetyren]

Anyone know the social, economic and political situation of Islam and Muslims in both countries?

How influential are they compared to say Turkey in the global arena.

Anyone?

Turkey is more influential, in that the leader of Turkey is more straightforward in defending the interest of the ummah compared to the leaders of Malaysia or Indonesia. As per the structure of the delivery system (economy, justice system, social and so on), I guess it's a give and take, strong here, lacking there.

both facing heavy secularizations, Christianization , and infected by blind nationalism
malaysia and indonesia, brothers with "Sibling rivalry" situation
and in global arena? not that influential

currently in global area, no muslims majority nations have so much power, most their government are nothing just pawns of Western and Allies or BRIC nations
including malaysia and indonesia

and IMO Turkey is slightly more influential

100% agreed.

The Muslims I met (Indonesians, Pakistanis and so on) generally have no objections towards the Caliphate system (). My opinion is, the overall problem is actually education, and that's a big obstacle in nurturing Islamic environment, as the respective Muslims would foregone the Islamic behavior as the code of conduct in our communictions and akhlaq in our day to day lives. Muslims in Malaysia still struggle to achieve that, and I'd imagine the problem is amplified in Indonesia due to the vastness of the geography.

Allahu A'lam.

[pissmanvd]

The Muslims I met (Indonesians, Pakistanis and so on) generally have no objections towards the Caliphate system (). .

I can ensure you that the ratio would not be more than 1% of total moslem of Indonesia.

[shanice]

I can ensure you that the ratio would not be more than 1% of total moslem of Indonesia.

in 2007 US made survey about caliphate, and 49% of indonesian muslims support the idea

from PIPA Poll, April 24, 2007