[AdobeCreativeSuite]

Wont the dajjal be given this power by Allah ?

i read that hadith too, something abt how every city dajjal will visit there'll be a drought and Muslims will satisfy their hunger thru zikr? And the weak Muslims will fall for Dajjal's tricks like he'll seemingly cause skies to rain (by Allah's permission) and people will believe he's the messiah or god. I am not sure where I read them tho and could be wrong since my minds been polluted with Harun Yahya fabrications.

[vekiuytyh]

First of all noones talking about flooding entire countries, the ayah doesnt back up ur claim, weather forecasting is a science and not psychics playing prediction games. Its not 100% accurate which noone ever said anyway, and past records and data findings from years and patterns can be used to to form a reliable climate graph.

Yes, they ARE talking about flooding entire countries since many on this forum blatantly believe for example, that the floods in Pakistan a few years ago were caused by HAARP. So please don't make ignorant claims

Secondly, the ayah DOES back up my claim (or at least according to Ibn Kathir's interpretation it does). No one can predict the weather, and what you said about physics and the like doesn't contradict that basic fact. It's like saying a blackjack player can predict whether the next game will be won or lost- he CAN'T, he can just say whether the odds are favouring him or not. The same with the weather- the met office give odds and these are analysed by meteorologists who then tell people what they think is most likely to happen.

And bro Revert's post is just another example of why conspiracy theories are dangerous- bro, do you believe Bin Laden was a CIA asset or something? So they chose not to chase him down? Cause otherwise, your statement wouldn't make sense

[Agitoligflise]

Is this stuff even possible?

http://www.infowars.com/iran-accuses...ather-weapons/

On Monday Iran accused the United States and the West of using technology to wage a “soft war” against the Islamic country.
Iran is experiencing its worst drought in 40 years.
“I am suspicious about the drought in the southern part of the country,” said the head of Iran’s cultural heritage and tourism organization, Hassan Mousavi.

Normally I avoid these types of threads, but when I saw that America is being blamed for the drought in Iran, I needed to reply. The drought is not only affecting Iran, but the U.S. as well. Last year it was so bad in this area that many of the farmers did not even plant their crops. (I have not planted for two years now.) Last year we had drought, record high temps for extended periods of time, and record setting wildfires. They predicted this would last for several years (the number of years varied). This year is we are also seeing record highs, drought, and wildfires. An article in my local paper recently said that if we don't have rain soon, we may run out of water in a few months. (We collect rainwater at my house, and in this place you can not drink the water anyhow. Haha) Our lakes and water sources are all drying up.

Iran gets hit with drought and it is America's fault. America gets hit with drought, and Allah is judging us.

http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...87110A20120802

[fuslssdfaa]

And people need to stop giving America more power than they actually have. Apparently, they couldn't find Bin Laden for years

this is true.

[BGThomasis]

this is true.

They found him (if he was ever lost) at the exact time the current administration need him to be found for political reasons.

[Frodogzzz]

They found him (if he was ever lost) at the exact time the current administration need him to be found for political reasons.

by modifying the weather? : p

[wait for my article i promised you!]

[flowersnewaho]

really? i must have missed those posts! Did anyone just talk about pakistani floods having been caused by HAARP? Really silly. No the ayah does NOT back up your claoms because no one said forecasting is a 100% accurate science, in fact i even remarked forecasting isnt about psychics making predictions but based on past records and observations. Yes thats what we all believe but you are making a strawmam here, i said ABC, u reinterpret it as BBC and attack. You my friend, are just in for an argument it seems, if you dont think the stuff is possible, say it end of discussion. The last few posts indicate it is possible for US to cause destruction, (you dont have to control weather to do that) and that stuff is obvious, man messing with nature and ecosystems never did any good.

Yes, they ARE talking about flooding entire countries since many on this forum blatantly believe for example, that the floods in Pakistan a few years ago were caused by HAARP. So please don't make ignorant claims

Secondly, the ayah DOES back up my claim (or at least according to Ibn Kathir's interpretation it does). No one can predict the weather, and what you said about physics and the like doesn't contradict that basic fact. It's like saying a blackjack player can predict whether the next game will be won or lost- he CAN'T, he can just say whether the odds are favouring him or not. The same with the weather- the met office give odds and these are analysed by meteorologists who then tell people what they think is most likely to happen.

And bro Revert's post is just another example of why conspiracy theories are dangerous- bro, do you believe Bin Laden was a CIA asset or something? So they chose not to chase him down? Cause otherwise, your statement wouldn't make sense

[ViaxobbimeVar]

The OP was about if this stuff is scientifically possible and if US is CAPABLE. THIS DOESNT TRANSLATE TO IF AMERICA IS DOING IT. I dont talk Iran seriously, but whats science fiction today can be reality tomorrow. No harm in discussing such issues.

Normally I avoid these types of threads, but when I saw that America is being blamed for the drought in Iran, I needed to reply. The drought is not only affecting Iran, but the U.S. as well. Last year it was so bad in this area that many of the farmers did not even plant their crops. (I have not planted for two years now.) Last year we had drought, record high temps for extended periods of time, and record setting wildfires. They predicted this would last for several years (the number of years varied). This year is we are also seeing record highs, drought, and wildfires. An article in my local paper recently said that if we don't have rain soon, we may run out of water in a few months. (We collect rainwater at my house, and in this place you can not drink the water anyhow. Haha) Our lakes and water sources are all drying up.

Iran gets hit with drought and it is America's fault. America gets hit with drought, and Allah is judging us.

http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...87110A20120802

[SappyAppy]

It is a proven fact that seeding clouds can and will induce rain fall.

So it's entirely possible there is technology in place to prevent rain and cause drought.

[cut sifted ephedra sinica]

It is a proven fact that seeding clouds can and will induce rain fall.

So it's entirely possible there is technology in place to prevent rain and cause drought.

This technology does exist. It has even been practiced and perfected, subhanallah ....in Muslim lands paid for even by a Muslim ruler recently.

This was widely reported across UK media last year

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ainstorms.html

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/abu-d...ct-371038.html

Here is a visual display of exactly what they did in a region where it barely rains.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...rs-desert.html

This is the company behind this particular project;

Metro Systems International - Weathertec (Switzerland):

http://www.innovateus.net/content/me...-international

I doubt the Iranian story until further evidence prevails. But anyone suggesting that largescale manipulation of weather and eco-systems is not being practiced and developed needs to look deeply into the connection between it and BIG multinational businesses.

Why would someone even want to starve other parts of the world when not at war ???

It called GREED. In modern agri-business, companies are developing GM seeds that require minimul water/rain. The only way to make them a real saleable product is when severe dorughts present themselves - especially pro-longed ones. Money is the end to no amount of evil. This is war, just different means involved.

Allahu A'lam

[realnilkless]

The OP was about if this stuff is scientifically possible and if US is CAPABLE. THIS DOESNT TRANSLATE TO IF AMERICA IS DOING IT. I dont talk Iran seriously, but whats science fiction today can be reality tomorrow. No harm in discussing such issues.

Of course, it would be difficult to prove this on such a large scale. However, the basic technology does exist. Infact there are companies who run projects and provide these services on a commercial basis. Here is an American Weather modification company offering such services:

http://www.weathermodification.com/index.php

They have many international clients, including Muslim nations. They are currently running a project in Saudi Arabia to enhance rainfall:

http://www.weathermodification.com/projects.php?id=21

All of this seems rather benign, actually serving a great humanitarian purpose. However, it was the military that first developed this technology. They did it for military purposes. In conjuction with new atmospheric technology, like Atmospheric Ionisation, it can be used as a devastating weapon against an opposing region or nation.

This is where rules and regulations need to be brought in and each one of the sites that is involved in this industry, all over the world, needs to be registered and their activities monitered.

This could easily become the new platform for employing warfare if it is not kept under control.

Allahu A'lam

[markkisil]

They found him (if he was ever lost) at the exact time the current administration need him to be found for political reasons.

This is true. Did you know all the Navy Seals who found and shot him all died in a helicopter crash a week later? Very fishy. Were they silenced to keep a deep dark secret? Maybe they were just given new identities and their deaths were faked to prevent repercussions? We have no clue.