[Effopsytupt]

Is this stuff even possible?

http://www.infowars.com/iran-accuses...ather-weapons/

On Monday Iran accused the United States and the West of using technology to wage a “soft war” against the Islamic country.
Iran is experiencing its worst drought in 40 years.
“I am suspicious about the drought in the southern part of the country,” said the head of Iran’s cultural heritage and tourism organization, Hassan Mousavi.
In 2011, Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said the West is “using special equipment” to “prevent rain clouds from reaching regional countries, including Iran.”
Iran is experiencing its worst drought since 1964. It has affected more than 37 million people, over half the population, and reduced wheat production and other agricultural output. Intense sandstorms have also plagued the country and increased desertification.
The Pentagon has admitted utilizing weather warfare against adversaries. In 2005, the Air Force said it has the ability to “generate precipitation, fog, and storms on earth or to modify space weather” and that “the production of artificial weather all are a part of an integrated set of technologies.”
In addition, the U.S. military has "induced ionospheric modifications" using its High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, or HAARP. “The HAARP system is fully operational and in many regards dwarfs existing conventional and strategic weapons systems. While there is no firm evidence of its use for military purposes, Air Force documents suggest HAARP is an integral part of the militarization of space,” The Ecologist reported in December, 2007.
According to a former Naval physicist, Ben Livingston, the Pentagon has used weather warfare techniques since at the least the Vietnam War. “Livingston asserts that hurricane control was a national priority of the government in the 60s and they had the ability to do it at that time. That was 40 years ago,” Paul Joseph Watson wrote in 2005 after Livingston appeared on the Alex Jones Show.
In April of 1997 United States Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen said governments “are engaging… in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves." Cohen made the comment in 1997 at a conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction and U.S. Strategy in his official capacity as the U.S. Secretary of Defense.
The United States and Israel have engaged in covert war against Iran over the last several years, so the idea that weather weapons are being used in this ongoing effort is hardly far-fetched.
In addition to overt terror attacks, including but not limited to the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists, the U.S. and Israel have worked to undermine Iran with two sophisticated computer viruses, Flame and Stuxnet.
On Tuesday, Russia-based Kaspersky Lab reported a new malware attack against Iran with a computer virus called Mahdi.

[favwebbb]

I read a while ago that the Tsunamis might have been caused by some hostile government. I did not believe it. Who knows what people in power do or have access to. The stuff about computer viruses is probably true though as governments will try to destroy their enemies computer systems. I think when they attacked Iraq they destroyed their water treatment computer systems, which had back door hacks built into them when the Americans sold them the systems, so that they could make Iraqis suffer with lack of clean water etc. Wars are not good, they lead to many deaths and suffering we seem to have been desensitised to it and also none of us question Democratic governements and their invasions of foreign nations.

[Voliscietle]

There is no doubt that we either have the ability to modify weather patterns; or are working to develop them as a weapon.

H.A.A.R.P.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Fr...search_Program

[Cgnebksb]

Wont the dajjal be given this power by Allah ?

[ELURNSERB]

Some of these stories are rubbish but there are all sorts ways of effecting eco systems through technology, but it can only happen if Allah allows it.

People should be careful what they mess with because they are dealing with complex systems and things may come back to bite the ones who do it.

[Dreqsqse]

Quran says that people cannot even predict the weather- you guys think they can change it? people like to believe anything conspiracy related nowadays

[AliceFromHouston]

I suppose hurricane ally is just that! someone playing experiment! Load of tosh!

[valiumnopresc]

Quran says that people cannot even predict the weather- you guys think they can change it?

Predicting weather and modifying the weather are 2 completely different things.

Truth...........

[Amerworma]

Dajjal is powered to cause hunger and drought on Muslims who reject worshipping it.. yet when the worried companions inquired more from the prophet about what they heard , the prophet replied that dajjal was too simple to have such powers. This combination of simple one capable of doing such powerful job is best done through technology.

[Cerilopasei]

Quran says that people cannot even predict the weather- you guys think they can change it? people like to believe anything conspiracy related nowadays

Where does the Quran say that? Predicting and affecting are two different things. What do weather forecasts do? Anyhow, I didnt think it was downright conspiracy stuff because of this "The Pentagon has admitted utilizing weather warfare against adversaries. In 2005, the Air Force said it has the ability to “generate precipitation, fog, and storms on earth or to modify space weather” and that “the production of artificial weather all are a part of an integrated set of technologies.”

And yes everything happens with the will of Allah, nobody ever denied that here.

[PypeMaypetasy]

The "seeding" of clouds by various methods in order to induce rain first started in the 1950's

Now cloud seeding for rain is a common practice that governments such as the U.S., China, Russia, and others have used with great success in inducing rain over drought plagued areas.

Anyone who thinks that governments aren't trying to perfect several types of weather modification technology for military use is extremely naive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

[Ephedrine]

People can and do predict and alter the weather...but as far as causing droughts or famine....who knows?

[OlgaBorovikovva]

The "seeding" of clouds by various methods in order to induce rain first started in the 1950's

Now cloud seeding for rain is a common practice that governments such as the U.S., China, Russia, and others have used with great success in inducing rain over drought plagued areas.

Anyone who thinks that governments aren't trying to perfect several types of weather modification technology for military use is extremely naive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

ASWW
I hope the Pentagon is not responsible for all the hurricanes America is being hit by!

[addisonnicogel]

ASWW
I hope the Pentagon is not responsible for all the hurricanes America is being hit by!

The Gulf of Mexico has always had a lot of hurricanes for hundreds of years.

So I doubt it's the governments fault.

[fygESytT]

this thread is funny, but it is true the cloud seeding can be used to affect rainfall so you can actually steal much of a country's rain through it and help move it towards drought if it is already that way inclined (very expensive though).

furthermore you can cause earthquakes by digging down into faults that are already under great tension and using powerful bombs to be the 'last straw' - its a popular idea in science fiction but also a reality.

as for setting off volcanoes by dropping bombs onto them - this is also a possibility. one American scientist tried to get them to do this to Japan as well as Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of WW2, but they didn't get round to it.

you can also cause tsunamis by placing nuclear bombs on the seabed where you want it to happen.

all of this stuff is well known and non-controversial.

Powerful countries do bad things if it suits their geopolitical interests so don't be surprised if any of this happens in the future.

nothing can happen against the will of Allah (SWT) though, so if it does its just part of the test.

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Its like if anyone nuked Makkah (and Allah allowed it to happen which I doubt),

as well as Muslims avenging it with a response that would put the non-Muslims of similar silly behaviour in the future

we would just have to accept it as part of the test from Allah and clean the place up again,

restoring it as best we could even though the process of restoration would likely cost many, many lives and a massive amount of money. (InshaAllah the clean up and rebuilding workers who died of radiation sickness would be martyrs).

It all just life - its a test.

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so don't worry about diabolical Pentagon, Zionist or Russian potentials, just trust in Allah and proceed with living as a Muslim.

Nothing can happen against the will of Allah, its like when Bashar the Giraffe turned the water off to persecute one Syrian town, the people were thirsty and prayed for rain and Allah sent them a huge rainstorm that they could collect and drink to keep them going before they sorted out alternative arrangements.

[ronaldasten]

Where does the Quran say that? Predicting and affecting are two different things. What do weather forecasts do? Anyhow, I didnt think it was downright conspiracy stuff because of this "The Pentagon has admitted utilizing weather warfare against adversaries. In 2005, the Air Force said it has the ability to “generate precipitation, fog, and storms on earth or to modify space weather” and that “the production of artificial weather all are a part of an integrated set of technologies.”

And yes everything happens with the will of Allah, nobody ever denied that here.

Surely, it is Allah with whom rests the knowledge of the Hour; and He sends down the rain, and He knows what is in the wombs. No one knows what he will earn tomorrow, and no one knows in which land he will die. Surely, Allah is All Knowing, All Aware (translation of Al Quran 31:34). Ibn Kathir says about this verse: Similarly, no one but Allah knows when rain will fall, but when He issues the commands, the angels who are entrusted with the task of bringing rain know about it, as do those among His creation whom He wills should know.

And for those who say making the weather and predicting it are two different things: how can it be so? If you CHANGE the weather, you KNOW what it will be (since you changed it).

And for those who think the weather can actually be predicted, see an article called 'You can't predict the weather or climate change' here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/7...te-change.html

Predicting the weather is like playing roulette; it's about odds, and there is no certainty, no matter which system you use. And people need to stop giving America more power than they actually have. Apparently, they couldn't find Bin Laden for years but they can flood an entire country

[uMG6uOSo]

Surely, it is Allah with whom rests the knowledge of the Hour; and He sends down the rain, and He knows what is in the wombs. No one knows what he will earn tomorrow, and no one knows in which land he will die. Surely, Allah is All Knowing, All Aware (translation of Al Quran 31:34). Ibn Kathir says about this verse: Similarly, no one but Allah knows when rain will fall, but when He issues the commands, the angels who are entrusted with the task of bringing rain know about it, as do those among His creation whom He wills should know.

And for those who say making the weather and predicting it are two different things: how can it be so? If you CHANGE the weather, you KNOW what it will be (since you changed it).

And for those who think the weather can actually be predicted, see an article called 'You can't predict the weather or climate change' here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/7...te-change.html

Predicting the weather is like playing roulette; it's about odds, and there is no certainty, no matter which system you use. And people need to stop giving America more power than they actually have. Apparently, they couldn't find Bin Laden for years but they can flood an entire country

they can do some things to mess with it,

but even the kaffirs admit they never know what will happen in a complex system (although they like to give other impressions).

they call it the butterfly effect.


if they seeded clouds on a massive scale when the conditions were right they could flood a country InshaAllah but it would be visible what they were doing because many big planes would be needed to do this.


changing and predicting a thing are different brother. Its like if you throw a bouncy ball in a concrete room, you did it (changed the ball by giving it new velocity) but after the initial bounce or two you have little idea where things are going to go.

[Fvmfrctt]

As-salamu 'alaikum wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh

Let's not forget that Iran is the one who is claiming this. The Iranian goverment can say anything. Let's not also forget that most of the world is hit by intense heat. In fact, the US is suffering from drought! If the US is that powerful that it can cause a drought of long period in Iran, why don't they prevent it in their own country? Maybe they are doing it on purpose to drive the food prices up? Or maybe the weather in the US and Iran is simply out of their control?

[arreskslarlig]

First of all noones talking about flooding entire countries, the ayah doesnt back up ur claim, weather forecasting is a science and not psychics playing prediction games. Its not 100% accurate which noone ever said anyway, and past records and data findings from years and patterns can be used to to form a reliable climate graph.

[Qutlsilh]

And people need to stop giving America more power than they actually have. Apparently, they couldn't find Bin Laden for years but they can flood an entire country

If they were really looking for him in the first place...........