[Gudronich]

After being tired for a year( except when I was on first round of hcg) and having high Ebv counts I finally got an appointment with an Endo and had major bloodwork. I had been off hcg three weeks at this time. She told me that my thyroid was fine, but these counts seem on the low side to me.

T4. .65. 0.58-1.64
T3. 3.1. 2.4-6.8
TSH. 1.02. 0.34-5.60
T3 reverse. 21. 11-32

She actually said that because my Vit D was low that could contribute to my fatigue. She just did not seemed concerned. (I told her I felt normal while on hcg and my aches and pains which were considerable went away. I also told her that I would also do another round of hcg).

My RBC and WBC are at the low end as well.

Her crendential are fron Radcliffe and Brown and I liked her at first. I now feel as if I have been dismissed from her interest.

I would sure appreciate any and all input. I am semi athletic and have not been interested in running in a
year. While on hcg I helped my kids rebuild an old house. While off for three months the fatigue returned.

Thank you all so much. Such a great diet!

[errolespopume]

After being tired for a year( except when I was on first round of hcg) and having high Ebv counts I finally got an appointment with an Endo and had major bloodwork. I had been off hcg three weeks at this time. She told me that my thyroid was fine, but these counts seem on the low side to me.

T4. .65. 0.58-1.64
T3. 3.1. 2.4-6.8
TSH. 1.02. 0.34-5.60
T3 reverse. 21. 11-32

She actually said that because my Vit D was low that could contribute to my fatigue. She just did not seemed concerned. (I told her I felt normal while on hcg and my aches and pains which were considerable went away. I also told her that I would also do another round of hcg).

My RBC and WBC are at the low end as well.

Her crendential are fron Radcliffe and Brown and I liked her at first. I now feel as if I have been dismissed from her interest.

I would sure appreciate any and all input. I am semi athletic and have not been interested in running in a
year. While on hcg I helped my kids rebuild an old house. While off for three months the fatigue returned.

Thank you all so much. Such a great diet!

Yes, you need your Free T3 number. It is different than the reverse T3 and there is a specific ratio of reverse T3 to Free T3, I don't know the numbers but that is the only way my hypothyroidism showed. It was actually a doctor that treats "fibromyalgia" that found mine, as he sees it a lot for patients diagnosed with fibromyalgia and "normal" thyroid panels. Good luck!

[capeAngedlelp]

You are hypothyroid. Your T4 is just barely in the normal range and your T3 is way low. It would be best if you had your free numbers but even these numbers aren't good.

[enfoires]

Thanks, Grammy. My Endo said all was well, so I picked up my results today.

[piramirra]

Oscar, if you can, find someone who specializes in functional medicine. They know how to read ranges properly. Grammy is right.

[Qncvqpgfg]

It is highly unlikely that an endocrinologist will be able to help you with thyroid problems. Sure, that's the type of doctor you're supposed to see for that problem, but they can't or won't help you because they are poorly educated on the subject and can't or won't learn from the suffering patients in front of them. I have found that there is some very helpful information on stopthethyroidmadness.com and on thyroid-rt3.com.

Although you need Free T3 and Free T4 numbers, it does look to me (I am not a doctor, am not giving medical advice, and have nothing but contempt for most doctors) like you definitely have low thyroid. I think your T3/RT3 ratio is okay, but my math isn't always the best. FT3/RT3 should be greater than 20 and T3/RT3 should be greater than 10. I'm getting 14.7 for yours, so that is okay. Free T3 is best at the very top of the lab range (they keep lowering the top of the range as ranges are based on averages of the results of those tested). Free T4 is best mid-range or higher, and if I'm remembering correctly, 1.4 is the best number to shoot for.

What was your vitamin D result? I think somewhere in the 60-80 range is considered good. Low vitamin D can cause a host of problems, many of them similar to hypothyroid symptoms. If you supplement, take D3 and not D2. D2 is bad for you, but it is what doctors write a prescription for. You can buy D3 over the counter. The Vitamin D Council website has some good information.

Also with thyroid issues, you should get your thyroid antibodies tested (TgAb, TPO, TSI), as well as RBC magnesium, B12, electrolytes, ferritin, serum iron, % saturation, TIBC and UIBC. Your body can't hold on to iron without good thyroid levels and your body can't process thyroid hormones without good iron levels, so getting those in balance can be tricky; if you have low thyroid, you often have low iron and vice versa.

Despite my continuing perfect TSH, I did find that my endocrinologist would give some credence to the possibility of me maybe having some risk of future thyroid problems once I had TPO and TgAb antibodies in the thousands, TSI antibodies in the hundreds and lots of large nodules on my thyroid. You might want to ask for an ultrasound to see if the endo can see anything, or at least ask him/her to touch your neck.

[Amerworma]

The very interesting fact I found.....no doctor runs TSH on a child of 13 or so.....so there is no reference on the individual of what a normal TSH really is for them. Instead, we need to conform to the avg of folks in older age that they actually run a tsh on. If I had one message to spread....it would be that if you have a child....get a few baseline tsh levels....then you would know later what they need to be. Don't go by the avgs that labs post....they acknowledge they don't know what the levels are on persons under 18 yrs of age,....so the idea of normal is sort of subjective right now.