[MaugleeRobins]

I posted this question over on the rogue thread but got no bites!

I know this is OFF PROTOCOL (!) ... but...

I want to understand mini-steak days and high protein days in P2 (not P3). I've been searching the forum for a while and have found a few different approaches but I want to get clear.

On a P2 high protein day you eat only protein and absolutely NO vegetables, no lettuce, no onions, no chard, etc.? (No fruit, of course.) And do you stay within the 500 calorie restriction?

On the P2 double protein days what is the restriction on calories and amount of protein? Is it something like, you do 200 grams of chicken for lunch, then 200 scallops for dinner?

I've read about people doing a few different amounts of steak during the P2 mini steak day. (I never did a steak day on P3.) It looks like some people are doing about 3.5 oz of steak (200g, right?) total for the day which amounts to about 500 calories. I also saw that Beth eats up to 8 oz. which looks like a double-protein mini-steak day! And, you still do the apple or tomato with it?

Thanks in advance.

[ChebuRAtoR]

after 15 days of losing and gaining and losing the same 2 to 3 lbs, I did what I called a mini-steak day. I had coffee in the morning (no half and half because it's P2), skipped lunch and had an 8 oz (raw weight) lean sirloin steak with all visible fat removed, broiled so there's no added fats/oils and with no salt used to season it. Along with it I had 175 g of roma tomatoes chopped up in 2 tbsp apple cider vinegar. The calorie total for the day was 350 calories. It dropped me down 2.6 lbs which was the most I'd lost in one day since the first week of that round.

Also in the later part of this long round I found my body seemed to react better with more protein. I was not eating fruit most days. I would increase my protein to 150 g or 200 g but always stay under 500 calories total for the day.

[bF8CCmmr]

I want to understand mini-steak days and high protein days in P2 (not P3). there are no rules for these, because they are off protocol- just things people have experimented with. i think the norm, if there is one, is to not eat all day and then eat your 3.5 oz of steak with an apple or tomato. for an all protein day you'd only eat meat- the amount is up to you.

[Coollabioto]

I think that's where I'm confused - Beth say's she does an 8 oz steak, and Margie say's a 3.5 oz steak... am I turned around?

[trilochana.nejman]

love those simultaneous posts- and we even posted the same answers!

[pavlik]

there is no right answer here- that's what i'm saying. it's all off protocol, so people have experimented with different things. i've done it a few times and had a hamburger that was about 5 oz, and have lost well. the mini steak days are much more effective for me than an apple day.

[Sdinozes]

No....there's nothing set in stone. Some people do it as a skip lunch and have a regular P2 dinner with 3.5 oz of steak and tomato or apple - which is what Margie mentioned. Because the steak is so lean and I'm a typeO blood time that reacts well to beef and knew I had good losses on true P3 steak days, I decided to try my own thing to try to break my yo-yo'g.

What worked for me may not necessarily work for someone else.

[RogerButton33]

bmtipg!

brilliant minds think in parallel gutters

[Plonnikas]

Nice! Brilliant minds in parallel gutters got me some great answers! Thanks guys!

[Dildos]

bmtipg!

brilliant minds think in parallel gutters

i love that!!!!

[hauptdaunnila]

after 15 days of losing and gaining and losing the same 2 to 3 lbs, I did what I called a mini-steak day. I had coffee in the morning (no half and half because it's P2), skipped lunch and had an 8 oz (raw weight) lean sirloin steak with all visible fat removed, broiled so there's no added fats/oils and with no salt used to season it. Along with it I had 175 g of roma tomatoes chopped up in 2 tbsp apple cider vinegar. The calorie total for the day was 350 calories. It dropped me down 2.6 lbs which was the most I'd lost in one day since the first week of that round.

Also in the later part of this long round I found my body seemed to react better with more protein. I was not eating fruit most days. I would increase my protein to 150 g or 200 g but always stay under 500 calories total for the day.

there are no rules for these, because they are off protocol- just things people have experimented with. i think the norm, if there is one, is to not eat all day and then eat your 3.5 oz of steak with an apple or tomato. for an all protein day you'd only eat meat- the amount is up to you.

No....there's nothing set in stone. Some people do it as a skip lunch and have a regular P2 dinner with 3.5 oz of steak and tomato or apple - which is what Margie mentioned. Because the steak is so lean and I'm a typeO blood time that reacts well to beef and knew I had good losses on true P3 steak days, I decided to try my own thing to try to break my yo-yo'g.

What worked for me may not necessarily work for someone else.

there is no right answer here- that's what i'm saying. it's all off protocol, so people have experimented with different things. i've done it a few times and had a hamburger that was about 5 oz, and have lost well. the mini steak days are much more effective for me than an apple day.

HI ladies! this is such a great question tarte-tatin! I was wondering the same thing....I am now on round 5 and although I have been doing this a while there are still things that I want to get advise on. I do know it is off "orginal protocal" but I have stalled out and it is day 24 of P2. I am hoping to get to my goal before I stop this round...but so far have only lost 14.40#, which okay, I am happy to do this, but frustrated that I am not loosing, really for the last week. So I have been contemplating doing either a mini steak day or an all protien day and see if that can kick start my weight loss again. I have 14# to go to get to my goal! Anyways, I was wondering, on these days do you still drink the same amount as a normal day 64+ oz of water? (or any liquids? -that are allowed?) Or is it like an apple day that you on drink a sip to get meds down or parched? Thanks Ladies, in advance! I value your opioin!
Mgsondance and Beth, you two are an inspiration to me!
Diane

[2swasseneons]

HI ladies! this is such a great question tarte-tatin! I was wondering the same thing....I am now on round 5 and although I have been doing this a while there are still things that I want to get advise on. I do know it is off "orginal protocal" but I have stalled out and it is day 24 of P2. I am hoping to get to my goal before I stop this round...but so far have only lost 14.40#, which okay, I am happy to do this, but frustrated that I am not loosing, really for the last week. So I have been contemplating doing either a mini steak day or an all protien day and see if that can kick start my weight loss again. I have 14# to go to get to my goal! Anyways, I was wondering, on these days do you still drink the same amount as a normal day 64+ oz of water? (or any liquids? -that are allowed?) Or is it like an apple day that you on drink a sip to get meds down or parched? Thanks Ladies, in advance! I value your opioin!
Mgsondance and Beth, you two are an inspiration to me!
Diane

I've done quite a few high protein days and steak days in P2. For my high protein days I drink the same amount of water (14 glasses) and eat only beef (occasionally 1 serving of chicken). I'll eat about 300 grams of beef in either 3 servings, or just nibble throughout the day. If I work out I might eat more. I consistently lose about .8 lbs or more each day.

For my steak days, I drink around 10 glasses of water and I eat, early in the evening, a 10-14oz rib-eye. I do trim most of the fat off but I leave some on for flavor. But I don't eat the fat once its cooked. I season it with braggs amino acids, and montreal steak seasoning (it has oil, so its off protocol) and grill it. I usually eat it on a bed of lettuce and half a tomato. Sometimes I drizzle lemon juice on top and sometimes just steak drippings. About an hour or more later I'll eat a baked apple. I've lost about a pound each time. Lately I've taken to drinking Smooth Move laxative tea in the evening of my steak days. I don't want all that meat just sitting inside. I didn't drink less water on steak days by design, it just ended up happening that way. So once I noticed that, now I try to stick with what works. I chart everything I eat/drink so I know what affects me and how. I hope this helps somehow. Really the best way is to look at everything you've read and try it out and document what works for you. What works for someone else won't necessarily work for you.

[klnbgqr]

Vixxen13, thanks for sharing your steak day success secret... I had been on a 4 day stall on a previous set weight I carried for 2 years. 162 is my magical body set weight... exercise, calorie counting, I just couldn't ever break it. So I was dreading when I hit that on my hcg round. Well, I flew through 162. Turns out 160 was my "set weight." Since last weekend, I had stalled out there. So after 4 days, I decided to hit the forum and see what my option were. I went with Vixxen's method, and IT WORKED! I'm down 2.6 lbs this morning, and am finally in the 150's! 158.6 to be exact, WOO HOO!

[slima]

I didn't realize this was a topic of conversation really but I do protein days once or twice a week just for the variation through my day and/or not feeling the veggies that day. I do consistently have my best losses this way.

[Pataacculakp]

Thank you so much to Beth and everyone for this thread. I tried this a couple days ago and broke my plateau I was stuck at! Only 3 - 3.5 lbs to go to my goal!

Hugs of gratitude to you all!

[salomal-qask]

I'm replying to bump this thread. I think a steak or high protein day is much more effective than an apple day in P2...glad Beth (or whoever) thought of it.

Makes more sense too, don'tcha think?

[WomanBreast40356]

Great thread! Have been going very slooooooow this round. Stalled, so I'm going to try the high protein day. Can you have coffee or teas on protein or steak days?

[isopsmypovA]

I'm in P2 & yesterday I tried just protein (chicken) for lunch & then a steak & tomato for dinner.
Sad, I was exactly the same this morning.

[M1iFiNmC]

I'm in P2 & yesterday I tried just protein (chicken) for lunch & then a steak & tomato for dinner.
Sad, I was exactly the same this morning.

Do one with either skipping lunch or have 100 grams of steak for each lunch and dinner and try an apple with the dinner steak instead of the tomato...several people (including me, seem to have trouble with the tomato & beef combo in P2).

But I have noticed a difference if I have only steak for the protein that day.

[ClapekDodki]

Great thread! Have been going very slooooooow this round. Stalled, so I'm going to try the high protein day. Can you have coffee or teas on protein or steak days?

Yes! And all of your usual water intake.